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I would say if you can understand (most of) dialogue just from listening then in couple of weeks of learning japanese you can be ready to read simple charage. Just learn hiragana and katakana, and some basic grammar. You dont really NEED kanji for the start. Just use text hooker and parser. Sure, your reading speed will be low at the start but if you really want it definitly possible.

Definitely it will take some effort (if you never tried learning japanese), but for the true love it is worth making some sacrifices :mare:

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10 minutes ago, Hiashi said:

Master Japanese for the sake of lolis. That's as noble as ambitions come. 

 

2 minutes ago, Zantax said:

I would say if you can understand (most of) dialogue just from listening then in couple of weeks of learning japanese you can be ready to read simple charage. Just learn hiragana and katakana, and some basic grammar. You dont really NEED kanji for the start. Just use text hooker and parser. Sure, your reading speed will be low at the start but if you really want it definitly possible.

Definitely it will take some effort (if you never tried learning japanese), but for the true love it is worth making some sacrifices :mare:

For some reason you guys are getting me all excited and motivated...I feel like I'm on the threshold of a brave new world...

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11 hours ago, Corrupted said:

Wow...I think I get it a little bit, now.

I went through every inch of that thread. I feel like my brain is being hijacked. Infected? I probably would have been sucked in and became a cultist if that church were still around.

This forum's sure got some history.

What's up with the sad react? Is/was this guy dying like me? If so than we have so much in common it's creepy. I'm going to end up being his spiritual successor.

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10 hours ago, Corrupted said:

For some reason you guys are getting me all excited and motivated...I feel like I'm on the threshold of a brave new world...

Just do it. Learning Japanese was the best decision I have ever made. My only regret is that I didn't do it sooner.
 

P.S. PM me if you want advice.

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23 hours ago, Ren'ai Arrow said:

Just do it. Learning Japanese was the best decision I have ever made. My only regret is that I didn't do it sooner.
 

P.S. PM me if you want advice.

I actually have a decent Japanese foundation...I studied one year and studied abroad in Japan another year, and even learned a couple hundred kanji when I was last laid up bored for 8 months. Despite all that, I still feel like a miserable beginner when it comes to speaking, reading, or writing. I can learn visually pretty well, but as an audio learner I am so slow.

If I've gained anything it's just the ability to hear it a lot better than when I first started. I can kinda follow along from the audio dialogue of a VN. It's just enough to make me constantly go - "How the heck did that translate to THAT". Over, and over, and over again. I start getting frustrated, wanting to know what's really going on, with this unnerving feeling that the translation is lying to me or dumbing it down or making a ridiculous cross cultural presumption.

Anywho, if I survive the big hurdle of the next 6 months ~ 1 year, than I'll probably have another 30 years or so; PLENTY of time to hop back on the study wagon.

But until then, my best rationalization has led me to believe that my most efficient usage of time is consuming, not studying. If I read every VN I want to read, read every book I want to read, play every game I want to play, or just get too intellectually bored, I may jump on it before then. It is really nice to have it to look forward to, though.

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19 hours ago, Corrupted said:

 

I actually have a decent Japanese foundation...I studied one year and studied abroad in Japan another year, and even learned a couple hundred kanji when I was last laid up bored for 8 months. Despite all that, I still feel like a miserable beginner when it comes to speaking, reading, or writing. I can learn visually pretty well, but as an audio learner I am so slow.

If I've gained anything it's just the ability to hear it a lot better than when I first started. I can kinda follow along from the audio dialogue of a VN. It's just enough to make me constantly go - "How the heck did that translate to THAT". Over, and over, and over again. I start getting frustrated, wanting to know what's really going on, with this unnerving feeling that the translation is lying to me or dumbing it down or making a ridiculous cross cultural presumption.

Anywho, if I survive the big hurdle of the next 6 months ~ 1 year, than I'll probably have another 30 years or so; PLENTY of time to hop back on the study wagon.

But until then, my best rationalization has led me to believe that my most efficient usage of time is consuming, not studying. If I read every VN I want to read, read every book I want to read, play every game I want to play, or just get too intellectually bored, I may jump on it before then. It is really nice to have it to look forward to, though.

 

 

Yeah learn japanese, that's the best way to enjoy eroges ^^. Honestly, it's not as hard as people tend to make it out to be and it is very rewarding. It takes some dedication, but i even think you could be able to read easy vn already (with ithvnr and translation agregator + mecab)

 

And by doing that you will be able to enjoy one of the best loli : https://vndb.org/c4735 (yes, a loli yandere that manage to be cute nonetheless ^^)

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1 minute ago, Tweek91330 said:

Yeah learn japanese, that's the best way to enjoy eroges ^^. Honestly, it's not as hard as people tend to make it out to be and it is very rewarding. It takes some dedication, but i even think you could be able to read easy vn already (with ithvnr and translation agregator + mecab)

 

And by doing that you will be able to enjoy one of the best loli : https://vndb.org/c4735 (yes, a loli yandere that manage to be cute nonetheless ^^)

Loli...Yandere...*drool*

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Oh and there is this one too : https://vndb.org/c531

This isn't translated... YET ! Yeah, transtaltion is at about a third of the game i think. Her route was my favorite of the game ^^.

 

Here's another great one, Lidia from Evolimit (non translated sadly) => https://vndb.org/c1047

 

As for translated, you can try Kazoku Keikaku for Matsuri => https://vndb.org/c3479 (don't play the remake, play the old game).

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I should probably read Morgana as well one day ^^. If you want to try an easy one, from what is listed in this topic i think you should go for Favorite's games first. I didn't read them but i feel they might be easier to read than others and this is the company that made hoshimemo so...

As someone said earlier in the thread, games with Shinku : https://vndb.org/c1793

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I would say that the OP here is already opening the Pandora Box in regard of the community here by mentioning Mare, but I guess there's no use to crying over the spill milk here. Anyway, in regard of good loli I guess it would be hard to do since some people might not agree in regard of the choice. That said, there's some VNs with loli that I can recommend here. And those loli characters were Kurokawa Kirara from Yumina the Ethereal, Yubana Mayuki/Mayu Mayu from Comyu, and Alice Bedford from Newton VN. I hope that my recommendations will be helpful here, albeit a bit late.

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4 hours ago, littleshogun said:

I would say that the OP here is already opening the Pandora Box in regard of the community here by mentioning Mare, but I guess there's no use to crying over the spill milk here. Anyway, in regard of good loli I guess it would be hard to do since some people might not agree in regard of the choice. That said, there's some VN that I can recommend here. Namely Kurokawa Kirara from Yumina the Ethereal, Yubana Mayuki/Mayu Mayu from Comyu, and Alice Bedford from Newton VN. I hope that my recommendations will be helpful here, albeit a bit late.

Three new suggestions that are all English translated? Yis, heckin' helpful!

 

10 hours ago, Tweek91330 said:

I should probably read Morgana as well one day ^^. If you want to try an easy one, from what is listed in this topic i think you should go for Favorite's games first. I didn't read them but i feel they might be easier to read than others and this is the company that made hoshimemo so...

As someone said earlier in the thread, games with Shinku : https://vndb.org/c1793

Shinko seems so popular as to be a good Japanese study goal in and of herself. Are you suggesting Favorite's games as easy to read in Japanese or as a good Mare-like character? 

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14 hours ago, Corrupted said:

Three new suggestions that are all English translated? Yis, heckin' helpful!

 

Shinko seems so popular as to be a good Japanese study goal in and of herself. Are you suggesting Favorite's games as easy to read in Japanese or as a good Mare-like character? 

I was mostly refering to japanese difficulty, since hoshimemo / irotoridori are fantasy charage which are most likely easier to read than the ones i recommended (they are chuunige so... less beginner friendly).

I only played hoshimemo from favorite, so i can't tell you with certainty that Shinku is better than Mare (she's most likely better though, another person here should be able to confirm this) but from what i read about irotoridori it's better than hoshimemo overall. Shinku is the main heroine and even have a sequel (fandisk ?) about her ^^.

 

Did you know what your thread reminded me though ? Dolphins, yes... Dolphins (i mean, i don't know about now, but did you know there were dolphins in mare's route ? xD).

 

13 hours ago, adamstan said:

Remake is untranslated, so there is no choice ;)

Yeah right, didn't think about that lol.

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Lolis huh?

Here's some of my favorites.....

https://vndb.org/c9336  ,  https://vndb.org/c9337  ,   (jailbait bi-polar twins ftw)

https://vndb.org/c577  , biggest motormouth ever! :makina:

https://vndb.org/c8626

https://vndb.org/c21657

https://vndb.org/c35046 , evil loli

https://vndb.org/c34928 , Imouto loli

https://vndb.org/c36023 , Cousin Loli roleplaying the Imouto xD

https://vndb.org/c36022 , game itself describes her as a Goth Loli

https://vndb.org/c501 , has almost as much attitude as Makina, has the best theme music ever xD

https://vndb.org/c15865 , another Imouto loli (though not the protag's Imouto)

https://vndb.org/c20 , pretty shy

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3 minutes ago, r0xm2n said:

Lolis huh?

Here's some of my favorites.....

https://vndb.org/c9336  ,  https://vndb.org/c9337  ,   (jailbait bi-polar twins ftw)

https://vndb.org/c577  , biggest motormouth ever! :makina:

https://vndb.org/c8626

https://vndb.org/c21657

https://vndb.org/c35046 , evil loli

https://vndb.org/c34928 , Imouto loli

https://vndb.org/c36023 , Cousin Loli roleplaying the Imouto xD

https://vndb.org/c36022 , game itself describes her as a Goth Loli

https://vndb.org/c501 , has almost as much attitude as Makina, has the best theme music ever xD

https://vndb.org/c15865 , another Imouto loli (though not the protag's Imouto)

https://vndb.org/c20 , pretty shy

Before I get excited at this feast...are these from VNs that are English translated, perchance?

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