Ouraibaa Hjyuraa Posted October 5, 2014 Share Posted October 5, 2014 Baby face seiyba vs mature saber Maturity, style, and clothing may change. But Ahoge. Ahoge never changes. I'm kinda wondering how they plan on animate the nonsense that went on in some of those battles. The descriptions were so overstated it was ridiculous. "My limbs were cut of, my eyes popped out and my brain exploded... But I won the fight without a scratch" - Basically all fights with Shirou involved, ever. They even had to make some excuse about a regenerating body to try and justify this poppycock. That "excuse" was the plot device known as Avalon. It's the reason why Shirou could summon Saber to begin with, and effectively take blows that would normally kill him. It's also the reason that Kiritsugu survived getting his heart destroyed by Kotomine during their final battle, and the reason Saber was practically immortal when she was alive. crunchytaco 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Poltroon Posted October 5, 2014 Share Posted October 5, 2014 Age, style, and clothing may change. But Ahoge. Ahoge never changes. That "excuse" was the plot device known as Avalon. It's the reason why Shirou could summon Saber to begin with, and effectively take blows that would normally kill him. It's also the reason that Kiritsugu survived getting his heart destroyed by Kotomine during their final battle, and the reason Saber was practically immortal when she was alive. I will not change my argument. The almighty Avalon is but a mere excuse to allow them to make battles more epic by having Shirou be destroyed but still live, since they need a protagonist and can't have him be killed at all times. It gets downplayed in the bad ends, and the rest of the plot just happened to fit. "Now that we have a that thing, might as well give it some meaning. Reason why Saber was summoned... Reason why Saber was considered immortal... Yeah, this seems good" Then Zero came along and just used it, since it was already there. All in all, my argument is baseless and I still think it's funny how they even justified the nonsense this time around. Rather unlike Tsukihime. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ouraibaa Hjyuraa Posted October 5, 2014 Share Posted October 5, 2014 Why are you even pressing a baseless argument? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Poltroon Posted October 5, 2014 Share Posted October 5, 2014 Why are you even pressing a baseless argument? Because neither of us can prove our arguments. Unless a writer says: "I specifically thought of including Avalon as a plot device before making the fight scenes" Then we can't prove which sprouted out of which. So I gave my opinion instead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ouraibaa Hjyuraa Posted October 5, 2014 Share Posted October 5, 2014 Because neither of us can prove our arguments. Unless a writer says: "I specifically thought of including Avalon as a plot device before making the fight scenes" Then we can't prove which sprouted out of which. So I gave my opinion instead. Take it to Beast's Lair. Would love to see the reaction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Poltroon Posted October 5, 2014 Share Posted October 5, 2014 Take it to Beast's Lair. Would love to see the reaction. I'm afraid I'm out of the loop on this one. I believe Beast's Lair is a forum. But that's all I know. Is it your belief that the reaction would be particularly humorous over there? Or do you plan to incite a discussion? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ouraibaa Hjyuraa Posted October 5, 2014 Share Posted October 5, 2014 I'm afraid I'm out of the loop on this one. I believe Beast's Lair is a forum. But that's all I know. Is it your belief that the reaction would be particularly humorous over there? Or do you plan to incite a discussion? It's the biggest Type-Moon forum on the web (4.500 members). I don't know what exact reaction it would create, but I think it'd be interesting nonetheless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crunchytaco Posted October 5, 2014 Share Posted October 5, 2014 I'm allergic to the forum's layout appearance and their members badly photoshopped signatures+avatars. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ouraibaa Hjyuraa Posted October 5, 2014 Share Posted October 5, 2014 I'm allergic to the forum's layout appearance and their members badly photoshopped signatures+avatars. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crunchytaco Posted October 5, 2014 Share Posted October 5, 2014 I don't want to point out the super awful ones from any individual because I'm not that mean. But here's some that I thought were humorous. MS paint Lancer (off centered mustache ) I don't know who would use this signature except for bees Mr Poltroon 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ouraibaa Hjyuraa Posted October 5, 2014 Share Posted October 5, 2014 I don't want to point out the super awful ones from any individual because I'm not that mean. But here's some that I thought were humorous. MS paint Lancer That's Gilgamesh... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crunchytaco Posted October 5, 2014 Share Posted October 5, 2014 That's Gilgamesh... I don't know if I'm supposed to feel embarrassed for not recognizing that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasDice Posted October 5, 2014 Share Posted October 5, 2014 I don't know what this is about, but those bees are pretty sick. Gotta love the memecenter watermark. Mr Poltroon 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colekitt Posted October 5, 2014 Share Posted October 5, 2014 so speaking of new anime has anyone else watched world trigger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kosakyun Posted October 5, 2014 Share Posted October 5, 2014 (off centered mustache ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ouraibaa Hjyuraa Posted October 5, 2014 Share Posted October 5, 2014 I wouldn't have noticed it had you not pointed it out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kosakyun Posted October 5, 2014 Share Posted October 5, 2014 I think it's trying to compromise between the nose and the mouth. It simply 'went under our noses'. TexasDice 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasDice Posted October 5, 2014 Share Posted October 5, 2014 It simply 'went under our noses'. Oh my, that's perfect. Very good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Ariel7 Posted October 5, 2014 Share Posted October 5, 2014 I will not change my argument. The almighty Avalon is but a mere excuse to allow them to make battles more epic by having Shirou be destroyed but still live, since they need a protagonist and can't have him be killed at all times. It gets downplayed in the bad ends, and the rest of the plot just happened to fit. "Now that we have a that thing, might as well give it some meaning. Reason why Saber was summoned... Reason why Saber was considered immortal... Yeah, this seems good" Then Zero came along and just used it, since it was already there. All in all, my argument is baseless and I still think it's funny how they even justified the nonsense this time around. Rather unlike Tsukihime. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Poltroon Posted October 5, 2014 Share Posted October 5, 2014 But Avalon is a real part of Sabers myth and has the properties it had in the myth. It is not some weird thing they came up with. If you are using king arthur it makes sense to have Avalon and Excalibur included and maybe even Caliburn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ouraibaa Hjyuraa Posted October 5, 2014 Share Posted October 5, 2014 I didn't know any of this. Meh, I don't really care either way. I'll just save that post in case the matter of you being wrong ever comes up again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Poltroon Posted October 5, 2014 Share Posted October 5, 2014 I'll just save that post in case the matter of you being wrong ever comes up again. Don't forget to note that I myself stated that my argument was baseless and a matter of opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ouraibaa Hjyuraa Posted October 5, 2014 Share Posted October 5, 2014 Don't forget to note that I myself stated that my argument was baseless and a matter of opinion. Your baseless opinion was wrong. Deal with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FinalChaos Posted October 5, 2014 Share Posted October 5, 2014 Don't forget to note that I myself stated that my argument was baseless and a matter of opinion. Obviously it was baseless. I mean when did your arguments have any base to begin with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Poltroon Posted October 5, 2014 Share Posted October 5, 2014 Obviously it was baseless. I mean when did your arguments have any base to begin with. When did they not, before that moment? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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