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I want to know what people here on fuwa think about the latest VN by Sayori called Monmusu which is partly a VN and partly a Idle Simulation Game, honestly I feel like it is a horrible disappointment. For those who don't know it is free to play with in game purchases. The way it functions is that as time progresses you get points and you have to use those points to get items to summon a monster girl, there are 9 monstergirls in total. You also need to wait a certain amount of time after you have goten each of the summoning items. In game you can use real money to buy crystals that can be used to make the time skip, which of course makes it so that you can complete it much faster. The game mechanics are honestly horrible and seem to only serve the purpose of getting you to spend real life money, not really unexpected for a free to play game but still. At the start it was possible to just change the date on the PC to get a lot of resources and thus made it possible to get all the monstergirls pretty quickly without having to pay anything. I did that so I have gone through all of the game and is pretty disappointed. Even with the 18+ patch the scenes with the monster girls are really short, like 2-5 min of length. They don't feature voice acting or animation and they are really poorly written. Pretty much the entire scenes are only there because they don't just want to hand out the cg without any text. The writing is lazy and seems to serve no purpose. In the end it felt like Sayori just wasted a lot of her good artwork on a shitty cashgrab game and I am quite disappointed in her since I really like her artwork and I liked Nekopara. Well this has more so turned into a rant, but I want to know what other people think about this game and about Sayori wasting her art on this project. Does anyone actually like the game or are most people here in agreement that it deserves its current vote average on vndb of 2.56?

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If you really think her art is wasted on that project I don't know man. I don't think her art is wasted just because it is on a game like that. (This is not the point of my post btw so don't comment on this, just a personal thought.)

But while being an obvious cash grab, these games probably have a very big market. In the end this is business and I hope and believe they know what they are doing. 
Anyways, I also think that these projects are out there only to make Sayori's "passion project" true that she has been searching people to work on for a long time now.

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Well one of my main problems is that it lacks anything other than her artwork. Everything else is just bad, the characters are bland, the scenes are short and the game mechanics suck. I wouldn't hate it nearly as much if it seemed like any effort was put into anything other than her art, like the writing or having an actual game system. I get that she want to get money, but at least some effort should be put into it from anyone not an illustrator.

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It's possible Tentacle Games is either a sub-brand or subsidiary of Neko Works and it might (or might not) have to do something with Sekai Project. It does not mean Sayori is fully responsible for those games, i.e. game design etc. It might be a joint project with other creators or a way to distinguish different game line-ups. Might be as well that Neko Works is simply doing the publishing work, because it's more convinient for them that way.

Sayori is a commercial artist. She will work for anyone that pays well enough, as long as the concept in question suits her fancy.

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The CGs are nice, but the... "game" is literally just the worst thing ever made, lol. They should honestly just make a "buy the CG pack!" button instead. Had the game at least been voiced, there would have been some attraction to reading the scenes, but... the only selling point this has going for it is the art.

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Apparently, it's just a very short title and Sayori is only one of three artists, so the effort she had to put in it was probably very low. In the title before she was still the only artists. The studio is pretty new, so I assume that they just wanted to get the name of a popular artist in their staff list to get some attention. And apparently it worked perfectly since we are now talking about it. ^_^

I wouldn't be surprised if latter titles would be created without her involvement, since she's most likely not a cheap artists to hire. But to give a new studio a good start, it was most likely a good investment. Not that I'd expect anything of worth coming from a studio called 'Tentacle Games' regardless if Sayori's involved or not.

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48 minutes ago, Dergonu said:

Had the game at least been voiced, there would have been some attraction to reading the scenes, but... the only selling point this has going for it is the art.

>reading the scenes

:chaika:

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So, this game is exactly as much of a mindless cash grab as I've expected? That centaur girl though, she gives all kind of flashbacks from my days of researching MLP porn. I wonder how they handled the h-scenes, the bestiality vibes here are real. :wahaha:

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44 minutes ago, Plk_Lesiak said:

I wonder how they handled the h-scenes, the bestiality vibes here are real.

Well they handled the h-scenes by just having the characters be as bland as possible and act just like one would expect a generic monster girl of that type to act. The monster devil is a sadist for instance, and that is her entire character. As for the horse girl she gives him a handjob as he is riding on her back and then he has sex with her from behind, not really anything that special.

44 minutes ago, Plk_Lesiak said:

So, this game is exactly as much of a mindless cash grab as I've expected?

Considering it has managed to have a score of less than 3 with 16 votes so far I would asume that it is even more of a mindless cash grab than you expected.

Edited by bakauchuujin

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2 hours ago, bakauchuujin said:

he is riding on her back and then he has sex with her from behind, not really anything that special.

Ok, I guess having sex with the horse parts doesn't come out as weird in the VN fandom. :michiru:

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1 hour ago, Plk_Lesiak said:

Ok, I guess having sex with the horse parts doesn't come out as weird in the VN fandom. :michiru:

Well the VN fandom is weird :) For instance just read the description for Henshin!!!. “Ahhh… I wish I was a girl’s panties” After Yuuji said that, his imouto Miko left him and is now staying at the girls’ dormitory. He debated if panties would be too stimulating and if he should be a skirt or a chair instead, all the while lamenting why he was born a human. Coming home one day, he came upon a talking cat-like thing that had collapsed. As thanks for taking care of her, she gives him a cell phone that allows him to transform into anything! Armed with his new ability, he heads out to fulfill his dream of teasing girls.

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15 minutes ago, bakauchuujin said:

For instance just read the description for Henshin!!!.

"Rapist protagonist", "ranked #284 with a rating of 7.33"...

I... I suddenly feel a strong impulse to disassociate myself from the VN fandom. :vinty:

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36 minutes ago, Plk_Lesiak said:

"Rapist protagonist", "ranked #284 with a rating of 7.33"...

I... I suddenly feel a strong impulse to disassociate myself from the VN fandom. :vinty:

mentioning henshin in the same sentence as monmusu, or trying to compare both with eachother in whatever way is nothing but outright heresy. tentacle´s monmusu turned out being trash way beyond salavation, whilst almost all henshin titles are kamige tier in their respective category.

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8 minutes ago, SaintOfVoid said:

mentioning henshin in the same sentence as monmusu, or trying to compare both with eachother in whatever way is nothing but outright heresy. tentacle´s monmusu turned out being trash way beyond salavation, whilst almost all henshin titles are kamige tier in their respective category.

No one is comparing them though.

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1 minute ago, Plk_Lesiak said:

No one is comparing them though.

@bakauchuujin mentioned henshin when coming up with an example of questionable? fandom, which is pretty okay in itself. it´s just, nah what i´m trying to say here is that monmusu is that bad of a title, even talking about others, be it good or bad ones, in the very same thread is wrong. like seriously bad. maybe comparable to appetite´s lineup, those weekly churned out soulless cashgrabs...

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1 hour ago, Plk_Lesiak said:

"Rapist protagonist", "ranked #284 with a rating of 7.33"...

I... I suddenly feel a strong impulse to disassociate myself from the VN fandom. :vinty:

Welcome to the VN fandom! We promise it's not all rape!*

 

https://78.media.tumblr.com/1dd15fa58dde580b0ecfb32202bf8e35/tumblr_ntpp3fzXnz1rjlegjo1_500.gif

*Said promise is in no way legally binding.

 

Well I certainly hope this won't become more of the norm for VN makers because that's really what we need right now.:vinty:

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2 hours ago, Plk_Lesiak said:

"Rapist protagonist", "ranked #284 with a rating of 7.33"...

I... I suddenly feel a strong impulse to disassociate myself from the VN fandom. :vinty:

You're in a thread about a game made by someone called "tentacle games", which is about a dude having sex with monster girls, yet a game with rape themes, (something found in most popular media nowadays), makes you dislike the fandom? :P

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3 minutes ago, Dergonu said:

You're in a thread about a game made by someone called "tentacle games", which is about a dude having sex with monster girls, yet a game with rape themes, (something found in most popular media nowadays), makes you dislike the fandom? :P

Monster Girls are capable of giving consent... Kinda... These are more like familiars thought? Still, I can accept pretty much everything that isn't rape porn (understood as depictions of rape that are there solely for fapping purposes). ;p

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31 minutes ago, Plk_Lesiak said:

Monster Girls are capable of giving consent... Kinda... These are more like familiars thought? Still, I can accept pretty much everything that isn't rape porn (understood as depictions of rape that are there solely for fapping purposes). ;p

Aha, I see. I thought you meant your issue was with the rape theme being present in general, which is pretty much ... well, everywhere. (Like, actually. Movies, TV shows, books, what have you.)

I can see how the fetishization of the subject in H content can be a deal breaker. (Though, this is rare in standard eroge. It's mainly just in certain types of nukige that you see this.)

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23 minutes ago, Dergonu said:

Aha, I see. I thought you meant your issue was with the rape theme being present in general, which is pretty much ... well, everywhere. (Like, actually. Movies, TV shows, books, what have you.)

I can see how the fetishization of the subject in H content can be a deal breaker. (Though, this is rare in standard eroge. It's mainly just in certain types of nukige that you see this.)

Oh yeah, I definitely don't believe in taboo topics, everything is a fair game when it goes to storytelling - you would have to be a prude or an idiot to say that depictions of rape are a bad thing regardless of the context. I'm just really grossed out by turning certain themes into straight-up fap material, especially if a part of the player's fantasy and agency - even in games like Euphoria or Maggot Baits guro and rape might be constant elements (and people might fap to them), but they're not really your goals as the player. Everything centered around fetishized rape and encouraging it with its narrative can burn in hell.

EDIT: And to not be completely off-topic, Monmusu is indeed the most unimaginative idle game I've seen to date. It makes Crush Crush look like a deep and engaging video game.

Edited by Plk_Lesiak

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