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On 3/8/2018 at 12:40 PM, VirginSmasher said:

Still, people acting all entitled over not getting a free translation was stupid. It would've been like if people actually got pissed at that Little Busters EX TL not getting finished in 2014.

most people know Little Busters is garbage anyone. No reason to get mad

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On 3/5/2018 at 11:07 PM, Zalor said:

This is honestly why I hate Reddit as a whole so much. It's so god damn authoritarian. This doesn't relate to the vn sub-reddit, but once I had a few questions about something really niche. And the only active community I could find to ask these questions was a reddit community. But the mods wouldn't allow me to post my own topic until I had a certain post count and "like" ratio. I mean, wtf!? I just wanted to ask a simple question, get an answer, and leave. That kind of authoritarian structure really bothers me and makes it a pain in the ass for new users. 

The regular forum style like fuwa is way better. Fuwa has good mods that do their job, and they aren't authoritarian. They pretty much never try to control the discourse that happens on the site. Fuwa users are free to talk about what we want with only a few reasonable exceptions. 

Same. I asked this question on the reddit way back early this year.

Who knew I was bringing upon the wrath of Allah? I mean damn.

 

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5 hours ago, Happiness+ said:

Same. I asked this question on the reddit way back early this year.

Who knew I was bringing upon the wrath of Allah? I mean damn.

 

You know, you are bringing up a very interesting topic that would be worth making its own thread over. But I think the discussion of whether VNs can become high art is a very good question. I say yes. There truly are few great VNs that make you question life and humanity itself. But some do exist. And the medium definitely has potential to create more of such works. Out of curiosity, why did such a shitstorm result from this? Try starting this topic of Fuwa, I think you would get a better response. Although you will of course probably get a few people trolling you about taking "porn games" too seriously. But I think other people will have quite serious and interesting responses. 

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Before the topic can be addressed the first thing that needs to be done is define "high art". Half the problem is there's like 50 different definitions of "high art" out there which contributes to the disagreement between people over what is, and what isn't, high art. Some people have said high art appeals to the emotions, others say high art is educational and makes you think. When talking about visual art, according to Michael Delahunt's "art dictionary"[1], high art "consists of the meticulous expression in fine materials of refined or noble sentiment, appreciation of the former depending on such things as intelligence, social standing, educated taste, and a willingness to be challenged" which is ... gobbledygook, let's be frank :P

[1] https://books.google.com.au/books/about/ArtLex.html?id=EJcUvgAACAAJ&redir_esc=y 

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8 hours ago, Happiness+ said:

Same. I asked this question on the reddit way back early this year.

Who knew I was bringing upon the wrath of Allah? I mean damn.

 

 

Pretty baffling that one of the redditors said "Yes" in response to your line about Harry Potter being discussed in classrooms, and why VNs are far fetched in comparison. Of course it got a million upvotes... implying Harry Potter is some kind of great literary work?! It's an entertaining series sure, but how does it really compare to some of the "kamige" out there? I guess there is more literary depth to Ron Weasley than any character in Subahibi :lol:

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7 hours ago, PiggiesGoMoo said:

 

Pretty baffling that one of the redditors said "Yes" in response to your line about Harry Potter being discussed in classrooms, and why VNs are far fetched in comparison. Of course it got a million upvotes... implying Harry Potter is some kind of great literary work?! It's an entertaining series sure, but how does it really compare to some of the "kamige" out there? I guess there is more literary depth to Ron Weasley than any character in Subahibi :lol:

It wasn't just a redditor, it was one of the mods. You can see why the tone of the sub became so memey when a one-word answer is the example the mods set.

You can tell which mod hasn't gone to college yet in that thread with their impression that only the greatest works of literature could ever be discussed in those delicate ivory towers, when in fact there's a lot of diversity in most courses with lecturers mostly able to choose whatever they like. Sometimes they choose to analyse something popular, sometimes it's a famous classic, sometimes it's some obscure story the professor really liked. The point of the lesson is not about memorising the source material, but learning how to analyse a work. So yes, VNs could be (and already are) discussed in some classrooms.

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