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16 hours ago, NowItsAngeTime said:

I still think the best option is how it's implemented in Comyu..

Literally just have an in-game option to Enable H-scenes.

Have it off by default for people who care about 'story integrity'. Have horny bastards like me keep it on for everything.

Actually, the guys that made the patch that included the switch, same with Realta Nua PC patch or what mangagamer did with the english release of bocchi x musume for example.

Like @Dergonu said, the way japanese people look at this matter is really different from how we westerners see it. It's a sex scene in a eroge, they don't care, so no such option exists in the original and we probably won't see it in future jp releases either.

But I must agree that's an interesting middle ground worth implementing.

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14 hours ago, Thyndd said:

The best option I've ever seen in a VN is "Chest bounciness" in freaking Nekopara :makina:

Wait, seriously? I might actually be able to read that now.

2 hours ago, Okarin said:

It helps that the H scenes are actually animated. A gigantic step forward from Knights of Xentar's mouth-only animations :D

I can't help but think of Gigguk's latest video when you talk about lip animation, lol.

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16 hours ago, r0xm2n said:

Nekopara has a "Bust Slider"? :wahaha:

yes. All sprites are animated, and when the characters move, their boobs wobble according to the level of boob wobbliness selected. You can also pet your neko harem, and they purr. It even has a good story.

I was sure that porn couldn't be good and have a plot but nekopara was nearly perfect in what it did

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16 hours ago, Kenshin_sama said:

I can't help but think of Gigguk's latest video when you talk about lip animation, lol.

I don't get you, link please?

Nekopara... ugh, I know I'm the minority here but it is so decidedly fanservicey and pandering that it really brings me down.

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2 minutes ago, Okarin said:

I don't get you, link please?

Sure. I'd recommend watching the whole thing if you have the time as it's pretty interesting stuff, but the part I'm talking about starts at 1:24.

2 minutes ago, Okarin said:

Nekopara... ugh, I know I'm the minority here but it is so decidedly fanservicey and pandering that it really brings me down.

I don't really mind fanservice at all, but the boobs wobbling around was a little too much to take in for me, lol.

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5 minutes ago, Kenshin_sama said:

I don't really mind fanservice at all, but the boobs wobbling around was a little too much to take in for me, lol.

Look, it's just that... sorry, having a harem of willing-to-do-anything catgirls with full H scenes is too much suspension of disbelief for me. It has the opposite effect it should have. It makes me feel like a filthy nerd. But maybe it's just me.

About the lip animation... Knights of Xentar was a 1994 game or so, so the tech couldn't stretch much farther. Nekopara though, benefits from the modern tech to bring us this naughty feature.

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1 hour ago, TheUnknownMercenary said:

I find it unlikely and rare for two individuals who come together in affection where they end up in a relationship and don't fuck.

Well, it definitely happens. We'd end up laying side by side, making out and then literally just hug and sleep. She and I were Christians, so we both had the conviction to not have sex before marriage, so sex was out of the question. Whether you believe it is up to you.

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5 minutes ago, Noumi Kudryavka said:

Well, it definitely happens. We'd end up laying side by side, making out and then literally just hug and sleep. She and I were Christians, so we both had the conviction to not have sex before marriage, so sex was out of the question. Whether you believe it is up to you.

>Christians

As a person who went to a christian school I can say without doubt that 1) Being christian doesn't stop it from happening and 2) Convictions fade.

I'm not saying I don't believe it because I have met people in the same area of conviction. All I'm saying is that if you take most people and put them in said situations they would get the banging on.

I especially find it unlikely in cases of these VN's where some characters won't see each other again or for a long while or they may even die and nothing happens.

For the above I merely need to point to WW2 and the baby boomers to prove my point that people just get that shit on especially in cases when they won't see each other again or two might die.

And like I said this isn't even taking what happens on average in high schools into account.

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17 minutes ago, TheUnknownMercenary said:

>Christians

As a person who went to a christian school I can say without doubt that 1) Being christian doesn't stop it from happening and 2) Convictions fade.

I'm not saying I don't believe it because I have met people in the same area of conviction. All I'm saying is that if you take most people and put them in said situations they would get the banging on.

I especially find it unlikely in cases of these VN's where some characters won't see each other again or for a long while or they may even die and nothing happens.

For the above I merely need to point to WW2 and the baby boomers to prove my point that people just get that shit on especially in cases when they won't see each other again or two might die.

And like I said this isn't even taking what happens on average in high schools into account.

You are correct, it does happen, and the norm in society makes it logical that it happens the way it does in VNs.

My convictions haven't gone yet, though, and I don't plan on getting rid of them anytime soon.^_^

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I guess the biggest problem for me is that I like porn to be separate from the other things that I enjoy. It's how I compartmentalize things (though it doesn't always work out)

I'll play through it if there's some actual romance going on otherwise I might skip away. I wish they used some fading in, fading out though so we can get to the best parts

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While we won't deny that some H-Scenes are obviously there there to sell, we still respect the decision to include them if they served at least some relevance to the narrative. And arguing with the necessities of the sex scenes, one should put the aforementioned Visual Novels into context. Like, two of Yume Miru Kusuri's route won't work without the sex, really. 

Also, Heaven's Feel as the drawback of Realta Nua's flanderization to the whole Fate/Stay Night. Sure in Fate and UBW (and by narration technique, Heavens Feel itself as well) sex scenes were approached as awkward as humanly possible, but hell if it's not important to the whole Heaven's Feel as a narrative of Sakura's unusual predicament. DICK WORMS.

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