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Hi There, I am looking for an ENGLISH translated, Older Sister or Mother (doesnt have to be blood related) type romance with a male main character. There are loads of younger sister + MC, but older sister and mother seems quite hard to find.

I dont mind nukige if it has a half decent plot atleast, but I would prefer it not to be.

E.g. The sister in Jun'ai road (if it was translated) or the "mother" in Saku Saku (if that was a route) and actually even the nurse in Saku Saku would be ok. Also fine with blood related stuff (Hey it isnt real and it is entertaining xD).

 

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Majikoi -> Momoyo's route is the older sister route-type you are looking for (non-blood related)

Kanon -> has a route for Natsuki (cousin), isn't that great, but has that live together family bonding thay you might be looking for.

Princess Waltz -> has a big sister route (beast princess), though the only difference in routes is the girl you end up with...

Ayakashibito -> Suzu is technically the big sister but she definitely feels like the younger one quite often. It doesn't help that she is a loli

All of these are non-blood related though. And only Majikoi and Kanon have a primary focus on romance.

Still all the mentioned VN's are at least decent.

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+1 for To Heart 2's Tama-nee, as an older sister type, but not technically an older sister. Same with Supipara's Sakura, though their personalities are a bit different...

11Eyes is probably the closest to fitting the bill, but the fan translation is frankly painful to read: literally thousands of typos (and I really do mean that literally, not figuratively), and massively overblown prose. I have a FuwaReview of it here: https://fuwanovel.net/reviews/2017/01/12/11eyes-sin-damnation-and-the-atonement-girl/

 

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As for older sister type, I think Sayaka from Yoake could be qualified although in reality she was cousin heroine though, but she took her role as the elder sister well iirc. There's also YU-NO in which one of the route was featuring stepmother route, although the graphic might be too old for you though. There's also one from Grisaia franchise in regard of older sister heroine, and I leave it to you to find that out by yourself by playing all of the trilogy - or just playing Meikyuu and Rakuen in that order to save some time. I think that's all that I could think of, and hope it could be help to you.

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5 hours ago, littleshogun said:

As for older sister type, I think Sayaka from Yoake could be qualified although in reality she was cousin heroine though, but she took her role as the elder sister well iirc. There's also YU-NO in which one of the route was featuring stepmother route, although the graphic might be too old for you though. There's also one from Grisaia franchise in regard of older sister heroine, and I leave it to you to find that out by yourself by playing all of the trilogy - or just playing Meikyuu and Rakuen in that order to save some time. I think that's all that I could think of, and hope it could be help to you.

With Grisaia, I saw the anime, so I guess you are talking about Asako/Yuria/Kazuki? I did like them stories and hope I can play a "route" of them, I was pretty into Asako -.-. However having watched the anime I cannot see how they would have routes of their own, paticularly through all games, Asako and Kazuki for obvious reasons =/. Is each VN Kajitsu/Meikyuu/Rakuen its own VN with its own routes? I am interested in playing the VN, but worried that I wont enjoy them having already seen the anime (spoiled alot of the story).

I watched the anime for Yoake, is the VN still worth playing? I did quite like the older cousin character, and also Karen, but Karen has no route =(

YU-NO does look a bit old for my liking.

12 hours ago, ittaku said:

To Heart 2 has the older sister figure in Tamaki Kousaka (voiced by Shizuka Itou too who's infamous in anime and VNs.)

I will look into To Heart 2 Thanks!, @Fred the BarberI will also check out 11eyes, if I am honest typos dont really bother me (as long as its not so bad that the correct sentence can be deduced by the context), I am just glad they are translated, wish alot more were translated =D.

 

10 hours ago, BookwormOtaku said:

Da Capo 2 has Otome and she is the canon heroine

Crescendo has Ayame

We Love Master! has Ema

Crescendo I will check out, I am gonna just have to prepare myself for Yuka's route, it is weird, I have played r$p£ hentai games, but when it is an actual VN I am playing for a plot I dont like that kind of stuff one bit, infact I hate it. Da Capo I did watch the anime of Da Capo 1 and 3, couldnt find 2 anywhere, so maybe i will check the VN out.

We love master looks like she fits indeed, but I am not too sure I like the sound of it.

@Akshay

Majikoi is on my to play list, in truth it has been for ages, might look at PW, I remmber starting it a long time ago but getting bored. Ayakashibito does sound like it matches but... Loli == No Thanks (For me)

 

Thanks for all the suggestions, lots of good ones, and I will definately try them (they satisfy my request, but none of them with a 100% match =/), why is there never a Brocon Older Sister heroine in a proper plot driven, English translated game, (In fact Kazuki from Grisaia and the one from Jun'ai road are the only ones I have found!). Mother/Step Mother in the same criteria I have not even managed to find one, I guess you could argue Asako from Grisaia is a stepmother.

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On 10/16/2017 at 5:10 PM, FinalCloud said:

With Grisaia, I saw the anime, so I guess you are talking about Asako/Yuria/Kazuki? I did like them stories and hope I can play a "route" of them, I was pretty into Asako -.-. However having watched the anime I cannot see how they would have routes of their own, paticularly through all games, Asako and Kazuki for obvious reasons =/. Is each VN Kajitsu/Meikyuu/Rakuen its own VN with its own routes? I am interested in playing the VN, but worried that I wont enjoy them having already seen the anime (spoiled alot of the story).

 

NO kazuki does not have a route exactly. and only the first game (kaijitsu follows a route structure). Also while there are scenes involving sex between asuka etc. it doesn't really feel like mother/child because, though she raised him, it was quite militarised, and the relationship was not exactly lover-type love.

While a lot of the story will be spoiled, there is a LOT that won't be and it is a great read regardless. (One of my friends watched it after the anime and still loved it).

Further in Kaijitsu, the routes are actually different, except for Amanes flashbacks , i.e. while the underlying problems of the girls are the same as well as certain events, the routes do diverge differently. I had actually watched kaijitsu, before playing it and I still teared up at multiple places. It basically got me into VN's.

Kaijitsu (the first one) has has 5 routes, one for each girl.

The second game, meikyuu proposes an alternate universe where every route happens, and continues from there. This probably has a lot of what you are looking for as it shows yuuji's past, and his relationship with his sister in great detail. It is a lot darker than saku saku though. If you have watched the anime though you do know what happens later.

Rakuen acts as a conclusion to this, and as every girl's route happens, it is basically a harem ending. 

So while it has a lot of what you want, there is no dedicated route for kazuki.

And kazuki is a loli so that could be a dealbreaker. She doesn't feel younger, such as in the case of suzu so you should be okay there (actually, even though makina was 18+, I had a lot more trouble with her, felt like having sex with your daughter [she actually calls him papa] . I loved makina a lot though ~)

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Also in terms of quality the VN is far, far superior. They basically tried to put every route of a 50+ hr VN in 13 episodes. A lot of what made the VN so good is yuuji's inner monologue which is completely butchered in both the anime and the non 18+ version of the VN 

 

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As for Yoake, considering that the anime was only covered Feena route with some modification, then yes I would say it's still worth to play because you could play the routes for the girls that anime didn't cover, especially Sayaka. Have fun if you try Yoake later.

I agree that YU-NO graphic was a bit too old there, but still I think it's quite good VN if I may say it myself so you could give a try on that, although I understand though if you hesitate on that because of the graphic. By the way, YU-NO has sort of mystery and time travel thing for more info.

For more recommendation, I guess Sharin would be good for you if you want to see the heroine that you want, although you probably already play that though. Also if you want mother heroine, then I guess this nukige would be worth to try although the relationship was less healthy than usual though. Hope my recommendation could be help once again.

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20 hours ago, littleshogun said:

As for Yoake, considering that the anime was only covered Feena route with some modification, then yes I would say it's still worth to play because you could play the routes for the girls that anime didn't cover, especially Sayaka. Have fun if you try Yoake later.

I agree that YU-NO graphic was a bit too old there, but still I think it's quite good VN if I may say it myself so you could give a try on that, although I understand though if you hesitate on that because of the graphic. By the way, YU-NO has sort of mystery and time travel thing for more info.

For more recommendation, I guess Sharin would be good for you if you want to see the heroine that you want, although you probably already play that though. Also if you want mother heroine, then I guess this nukige would be worth to try although the relationship was less healthy than usual though. Hope my recommendation could be help once again.

Heh yea, that nukige does not look like my cup of tea! Basically a r$pist protaganist isnt it? Hate those kind of VNs tbh. Will probably give Yoake a shot, YU-NO I may give a shot if I  run out of material some day =/.

 

21 hours ago, Mistearea said:

Best I could think of right now is Hara Kano!! ~Ano Ko To Lovelove Harabote Seikatsu~  It has a blood-related mother route and a route with a girl named Kaho who acts as an older sister for the protag.

Thanks, this is in my list!

 

@Akshay

Thankis for that detailed answer, you have me pretty much sold

On 16/10/2017 at 4:29 PM, Akshay said:

The second game, meikyuu proposes an alternate universe where every route happens, and continues from there. This probably has a lot of what you are looking for as it shows yuuji's past, and his relationship with his sister in great detail. It is a lot darker than saku saku though. If you have watched the anime though you do know what happens later.

Rakuen acts as a conclusion to this, and as every girl's route happens, it is basically a harem ending. 

This is my only point of concern. So how does Rakuen work? You have romanced all girls but you then commit to one of them in a route structure? You have a harem throughout the game? Or is it similar to Rauken in the anime, where the focus shifts to resolving the Protaganist's past conflicts? And therefore there would be no romantic closure from Rauken?

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2 hours ago, FinalCloud said:

 

@Akshay

Thankis for that detailed answer, you have me pretty much sold

This is my only point of concern. So how does Rakuen work? You have romanced all girls but you then commit to one of them in a route structure? You have a harem throughout the game? Or is it similar to Rauken in the anime, where the focus shifts to resolving the Protaganist's past conflicts? And therefore there would be no romantic closure from Rauken?

Ill try not to include any spoilers,

Rakuen follows the anime but in far more detail. It explains how the girls were trained and tries to be ironic in the fact that "they save yuuji" this time instead of yuuji saving them (as seen in kaijutsu).

Yes it is a harem, he does not dedicate himself to any single girl. Also it is more of a forced harem as the girls go to him rather than him trying to build relationships with them. This is explored in the VN significantly 

There is a little more kazuki goodness, a lot more detail and events not covered by the anime. The 18+ version has a proper "harem" epilogue not properly explored in the anime or in the non18+ version of rakuen.

The unrated version of eden should release this year, so I suggest you wait for that, and then binge the whole series. I don't think you will regret that. This VN is better played 18+, as they have removed more than just the porn, but a lot of the jokes as well.(they even took out the epilogue from the non-18+ VN). Again the VN is far far superior to the anime, you will enjoy it regardless of having seen it. 

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15 hours ago, FinalCloud said:

Heh yea, that nukige does not look like my cup of tea! Basically a r$pist protaganist isnt it? Hate those kind of VNs tbh. Will probably give Yoake a shot, YU-NO I may give a shot if I  run out of material some day =/.

From the sound of it, yeah. I'm sorry in regard of that beforehand, and hope that you had fun with the VN that you want to play right now.

PS - Just remember that there's Da Capo 3 with Charles as the older sister heroine - well she's more like the cousin though just like Yoake, but she insist to be called 'Lulu-nee' so I think that's count. I knew that you already watch the anime, but in this case I would suggest you to just play the VN because the anime just adapted the prologue, and therefore didn't show much about the real content of Da Capo 3 itself (Which is a lot).

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15 hours ago, littleshogun said:

From the sound of it, yeah. I'm sorry in regard of that beforehand, and hope that you had fun with the VN that you want to play right now.

PS - Just remember that there's Da Capo 3 with Charles as the older sister heroine - well she's more like the cousin though just like Yoake, but she insist to be called 'Lulu-nee' so I think that's count. I knew that you already watch the anime, but in this case I would suggest you to just play the VN because the anime just adapted the prologue, and therefore didn't show much about the real content of Da Capo 3 itself (Which is a lot).

Nah, I dont take any offense from it, the theme itself in VNs doesnt bother me too much, but I dont like it when it happens in a plot based VN (i.e. not a nukige) and I do not like it when there is a  protaganist going around r$ping girls for no good reason.

I actually have Da Capo 3, will probably give it a shot at some point. Thanks!

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I don't see anyone here digging back into the old days.  There are several really old school games that might fit the bill, so I suppose I'll make myself look old.  Kango Shichauzo and Come See Me Tonight both fit the bill, as I recall.  Honestly I don't actually recommend these games.  They're just too old, too simple, and too boring.   There's an older-sister type, kind of, in Snow Drop too (she's the older sister of one of the heroines, not of you) but she doesn't actually have a route and she's not that good of a character.  I honestly don't really recommend that one either.  The Sagara Family definitely counts.  That's one I actually would give a lukewarm recommendation, just because the pickings are kind of slim.

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15 hours ago, Nandemonai said:

I don't see anyone here digging back into the old days.  There are several really old school games that might fit the bill, so I suppose I'll make myself look old.  Kango Shichauzo and Come See Me Tonight both fit the bill, as I recall.  Honestly I don't actually recommend these games.  They're just too old, too simple, and too boring.   There's an older-sister type, kind of, in Snow Drop too (she's the older sister of one of the heroines, not of you) but she doesn't actually have a route and she's not that good of a character.  I honestly don't really recommend that one either.  The Sagara Family definitely counts.  That's one I actually would give a lukewarm recommendation, just because the pickings are kind of slim.

Hey man, thanks for trying to help me in my search!

I have seen The Sagara Family in my search, I dismissed it as a standard no-plot nukige, does it have a half decent plot? I give them a bit of leeway on plot if they are a nukige, but if there is none or it is terrible then I pass =D.

As for the other titles you mentioned they are also nukige, do you back them as having a decent plot?

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Koihime Musou has several older heroines like Shion for a more mother type heroine or Aisha for a more older sister type heroine.

Kyou and Tomoyo from Clannad also weren't mentioned yet for Onee-san types.

Then there is Kurugaya from Little Busters who's also an Onee-San type.

Kara no Shojo 1 & 2 has Kyouko for a more mother type heroine.

Kira Kira's Chie for an Onee-San type heroine.

Ran from My Girlfriend is the President for an Onee-San type heroine.

And Shuffle has Asa for an Onee-san type and you can get Nadeshiko (teacher) in the fan disc Really? Really! and Ai in the fan disc Tick! Tack!.

And in Edelweiss there's Mei, another teacher heroine.

Edit: Ah sorry, you wanted 'real' sister or mother heroines, not just types? Anyway, I just leave it that way, maybe you can still have a look. :sleep:

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Hey, yea ideally I want a real mother/sister/teacher, dont have to be biological, but ideally they would fulfil those roles towards the protaganist. I mean, if I use Saku Saku as an example again, even Nao I would consider a viable option in this request, as she is kind of like an older sister to the protaganist.

Some good suggestions there that kind of match my request tho thanks! Mei does look good, but I have seen some negativity about her route.

I watched the shuffle anime, had no idea it had these spinoffs tbh, might check them out. Nadeshiko looks a good type!

I forgot Tomoyo actually, another one that I want to try as I have heard good things about the after route for her!

Thanks for your suggestions!

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2 hours ago, FinalCloud said:

Hey man, thanks for trying to help me in my search!

I have seen The Sagara Family in my search, I dismissed it as a standard no-plot nukige, does it have a half decent plot? I give them a bit of leeway on plot if they are a nukige, but if there is none or it is terrible then I pass =D.

As for the other titles you mentioned they are also nukige, do you back them as having a decent plot?

I wouldn't really say any of those titles have a decent plot, no.  Snow Drop is the closest to having a decent plot, but it's a very frustrating game to play, the plot isn't THAT great, and the older sister is probably the worst character.

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