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1 minute ago, exaccuss said:

Is there any reason why they didnt start with LoveKami first? I mean apparently it is longer and honestly, sounds better. Is it just because the one they translated is quicker, which would equal a quicker sale? Im confused lol.

Well with that one they would have had to create a new all-ages version for that game for steam and I think the internet may have traumatized them after the If my Heart had Wings debacle, so they want to avoid a repeat incident as much as possible.

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2 minutes ago, Soulless Watcher said:

Well with that one they would have had to create a new all-ages version for that game for steam and I think the internet may have traumatized them after the If my Heart had Wings debacle.

Oh. I didnt realize divinity stage was an english only release. I hope they release the first one eventually. Im not too fond of these short VN's. I am more than willing to support companies with VN's like this such as da capo/chrono clock etc etc, just not these short ones. Thats just me lol

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Just now, exaccuss said:

Oh. I didnt realize divinity stage was an english only release. I hope they release the first one eventually. Im not too fond of these short VN's. I am more than willing to support companies with VN's like this such as da capo/chrono clock etc etc, just not these short ones. Thats just me lol

I don't mind episodic kinetic novels, like the Fault series and I was totally on board for the Dysfunctional Systems series, but yeah I don't really care for the shorter self contained titles unless they indulge in one of my sick depraved fetishes. 

It's a shame though, but I have a feeling these shorter throw away titles will become more and more prevalent. It's simply a smarter and less risky business model that the Sakura series has proven to work. 

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1 minute ago, Soulless Watcher said:

I don't mind episodic kinetic novels, like the Fault series and I was totally on board for the Dysfunctional Systems series, but yeah I don't really care for the shorter self contained titles unless they indulge in one of my sick depraved fetishes. 

It's a shame though, but I have a feeling these shorter throw away titles will become more and more prevalent. It's simply a smarter and less risky business model that the Sakura series has proven to work. 

*walks away very slowly*

lol seriously though, i seriously hope companies like mangagamer etc dont move away from these medium length vn's with romantic routes (what are they called moege's these days?) They are essentially the only VN's i like playing. The rest like steins gate/fate stay night etc just dont interest me at all.

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10 minutes ago, exaccuss said:

*walks away very slowly*

lol seriously though, i seriously hope companies like mangagamer etc dont move away from these medium length vn's with romantic routes (what are they called moege's these days?) They are essentially the only VN's i like playing. The rest like steins gate/fate stay night etc just dont interest me at all.

*Walks closer with a baseball bat in hand* 

Well in all seriousness I doubt mangagamer and jast will change their business model anytime soon, it's just kinda sad that a visual novel company is actually paying attention to the western market.... but only to release titles that are slightly above Winged Cloud's stuff. 

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21 minutes ago, Soulless Watcher said:

*Walks closer with a baseball bat in hand* 

 

1v1 me bro. Tomorrow at dawn. :meguface:

I think the sakura series have really good art. If they actually made a half decent VN, im sure it would be received much better than their current fap titles lol.

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10 hours ago, Decay said:

The translation of Divinity Stage, the last VN they released, was of acceptable quality. The opinions I've seen of the VN itself was that while it wasn't very good, it was still better than they expected. Like, it had actual routes and drama and stuff. It still seems like trash, but it's at least not Sakura-levels of trash.

And they didn't censor a title that needed 18+ content in order to make sense, they created a new one that didn't have any in the first place.

 

3 hours ago, exaccuss said:

Is there any reason why they didnt start with LoveKami first? I mean apparently it is longer and honestly, sounds better. Is it just because the one they translated is quicker, which would equal a quicker sale? Im confused lol.

I would imagine they don't want to localize LoveKami because they'd have to either release it uncensored, or censor it and deal with the backlash.  They don't seem willing to release h, and they seem to have figured out that censoring games is a bad move.  That leaves creating new games that don't have any h to remove (since Pulltop makes eroge in Japan, and MoeNovel basically is Pulltop).

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Serious question here, but do people really ask for these types of VNs from MoeNovel or did the company themselves thought that it was a good idea to make them?

I'm just not sure what they've decided upon when they were planning for this and I don't think any of us expected this either.

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1 hour ago, jetpack003 said:

Serious question here, but do people really ask for these types of VNs from MoeNovel or did the company themselves thought that it was a good idea to make them?

I'm just not sure what they've decided upon when they were planning for this and I don't think any of us expected this either.

It was probably their own decision, and it's also probably not a bad decision for them to make, since these are the most popular kinds of VNs on Steam.

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13 hours ago, Soulless Watcher said:

I don't mind episodic kinetic novels, like the Fault series and I was totally on board for the Dysfunctional Systems series, but yeah I don't really care for the shorter self contained titles unless they indulge in one of my sick depraved fetishes. 

It's a shame though, but I have a feeling these shorter throw away titles will become more and more prevalent. It's simply a smarter and less risky business model that the Sakura series has proven to work. 

This has been a viable business strategy for developers within Japan for years already. Since their experience stems mainly from working within extremely competitive and oversaturated market I don't see any sort of positive conclusion in our case either, as the market demand clearly prefers such games over full-blown titles spanning across 50+ hours. The risk involved in production of high-quality, ultra long titles often greatly exceeds possible gains; you'd have to be either crazy or insanely rich to ignore these as a japanese developer.

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Nice, another (economic) masterpiece (that bars everything except ANiMu HAREMS, BEWBS and EWAN MOAR BEWBS).

 

Thank steam for finishing what japanese otakus already started. The destuction of Coo Ality. Praise Moenovel, whoreship them, give them your money!

 

The end is near. Reipu your children, kill your siblings! Today we bathe in blood! ...or at least in generic pictures of brain- and soulless animu waifus!

 

Disclaimer: All of this was done in the name of mockery, even Moenovels Release. Please, little children, do nothing you read, see or hear here or in those Visual Novels at home. Doing so can cause severe damage to your brain, face, or those body parts adults tell you you're too young to know about.

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On 08/05/2017 at 7:53 PM, Zakamutt said:

We hate on Sakura, we hate on this. Both are targeting the ecchi-loving weeb demographic and do pointedly not include hardcore pornography; I see no real hypocrisy involved. With that said, certainly this is preferable to their first effort. It just isn't anything I care about or would read. I also dont care about Chrono Clock, lol.

Not everybody hates the Sakura series, and now they do have explicit scenes, although your point is still very valid. My opinion on hypocrisy still stands, as even being a "borderline" game, it clearly is appealing to its sexual aspect. And you may not care, but many others clearly do, and they're the target of my comment.

On 08/05/2017 at 8:34 PM, Soulless Watcher said:

Chrono Clock actually had some interesting ideas though and the premise was a good draw for readers, nothing was really done with them, but at the very least there was a spark of creativity. Not to mention that there was actual sexual content for those who wanted it. 

This, just feels like they are selling the cover art. Especially, considering this is already the second all-ages spin-off of, if Clephas is to be believed, a much better title. 

I don't hate the title, I understand the need and the marketing decisions behind it, but it's hard to get particularly excited for it knowing it will be a short title, more then likely much shorter then Chrono Clock, with little substance. 

After finishing CC I could only regret my time spent expecting something from the story. The art, voices, everything is perfect, and even some plots would work out of it, but again, it was terrible.

 

I think my comment may have been a little agressive, so for that I apologise. Still, I say we wait for the release before throwing stones on them.

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5 minutes ago, Silvz said:

After finishing CC I could only regret my time spent expecting something from the story. The art, voices, everything is perfect, and even some plots would work out of it, but again, it was terrible.

I think my comment may have been a little agressive, so for that I apologise. Still, I say we wait for the release before throwing stones on them.

You thought that Chrono Clock was legitimately bad, but you still believe that this could be legitimately good? I thought I had weird standards, but Jesus fucking Christ, and I thought the last American election debacle was enough to educate myself that there will always be people who I will be unable to emphasize with. 

Like I said, I don't think this title will be bad, but it will definitely be a nothing visual novel. Going by the length of the previous game it will probably be completed in one lazy afternoon and then promptly forgotten about. 

 

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I mean, how heavy stones are we throwing anyway? This is just a topic memeing about a low-status release, it's not like we don't have others like that already for, say, sonicomi, or nympho sensei ryoko, or please bang my wife, et cetera. Taking it too seriously is probably a mistake. I will admit that in my mental map everyone knows what Decay wrote about moenovel's previous, fairly inoffensive release of divinity stage - the tl work is better though nothing special, and it's not spectacular in any way otherwise - or at least I'm too damn lazy to inform them.

 

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41 minutes ago, Soulless Watcher said:

You thought that Chrono Clock was legitimately bad, but you still believe that this could be legitimately good? I thought I had weird standards, but Jesus fucking Christ, and I thought the last American election debacle was enough to educate myself that there will always be people who I will be unable to emphasize with. 

 

I'm laughing with your comment. I think you misunderstood my comment, but ok.

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Just now, Silvz said:

I'm laughing with your comment. I think you misunderstood my comment, but ok.

Yeah I find the constant inability of the human race to communicate with each other and the resultant suffering that causes pretty funny as well. 

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On 2017. 05. 09. at 5:36 AM, exaccuss said:

*walks away very slowly*

lol seriously though, i seriously hope companies like mangagamer etc dont move away from these medium length vn's with romantic routes (what are they called moege's these days?) They are essentially the only VN's i like playing. The rest like steins gate/fate stay night etc just dont interest me at all.

Hear,hear. I am only interested in "moege's" too.

Nothing bores me more than VN's like steins gate/fate stay etc. 

Though I do have a weak spot for extreme gore or very dark stuff etc (too bad there is hardly anything translated)

 

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5 hours ago, Swim Swim said:

Hear,hear. I am only interested in "moege's" too.

Nothing bores me more than VN's like steins gate/fate stay etc. 

Though I do have a weak spot for extreme gore or very dark stuff etc (too bad there is hardly anything translated)

 

I honestly cant tell if you are trying to be very sarcastic or not. :amane:

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11 hours ago, Swim Swim said:

I didnt mean to be sarcastic in this case, also I have a really peculiar taste. 

Ah. I can't stand dark/gore stuff in general. Be it movies OR games. I don't know why, i just can't stand it lol. What VN are you playing currently?

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On 2017. 05. 13. at 3:10 AM, exaccuss said:

Ah. I can't stand dark/gore stuff in general. Be it movies OR games. I don't know why, i just can't stand it lol. What VN are you playing currently?

Koi to Senkyo to Chocolate, as said VNs for me mostly all about moege/charage so we are pretty much on the same page with our taste.

The only difference that I also like gore(it would be better to say guro) Because games or movies described with high ammount "gore" , almost always ends up really disappointing due to lackluster gore, its not enough for me. 

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