Zenophilious Posted February 10, 2017 Share Posted February 10, 2017 VNDB link Has anyone here read it? I remember someone praising it and wishing it would get translated. Whoever that was, it looks like you're getting your wish The translation is being done by Conjueror and the editing by gare (link), so that makes me happy. Okarin, Silvz, Zakamutt and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yuuko Posted February 10, 2017 Share Posted February 10, 2017 its kamigem Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dergonu Posted February 10, 2017 Share Posted February 10, 2017 Huh, that's a nice little surprise. I bought this a while back, but never got around to reading it. Guess I'll just wait for the localization then. @Kiriririri, did you read this yet? (If so, thoughts on it?) EDIT: Kamige confirmed. ＼(゜ロ＼)(／ロ゜)／ Nandemonai 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkZedge Posted February 10, 2017 Share Posted February 10, 2017 I'm really hesitant to raise my hopes since it's yuri but perhaps it will be good, only time will tell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turnip Sensei Posted February 10, 2017 Share Posted February 10, 2017 Yeah, SeaBed is gem, one the best VNs I read last year. It's pretty hard to categorize or even explain properly, but SeaBed is a cool exercise in psychology and very atmospheric story. A mystery, but not really. Adults living with their problems. And even though the game is Yuri that's never the focus. In fact if someone were to pick the game just expecting yuri they would probably be disappointed. (Unless they'd fell for the it's other wonderful qualities) But that said, even though I really took a liking to it I can see that SeaBed is not really for everyone. Some might find the dreamy, diary-like narration boring, but for those looking something different, little unusual SeaBed can be an amazing experience. Vorathiel, Fred the Barber, Chronopolis and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Narcosis Posted February 10, 2017 Share Posted February 10, 2017 I guess this is the 2017's announcement, everyone will literally lose their minds for, lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zakamutt Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 I remember this used to be what the JOP community was circlejerking about for a time. I'll probably like it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chronopolis Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 (edited) WHHHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAATTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT? (It's a somewhat challenging VN to read, so I'm glad it gets qualified translators) Edited February 11, 2017 by Chronopolis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
littleshogun Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 I think it's definitely interesting news. The character art was just as good as any doujin game (It's doujin duh), but the cover art was quite good though. Although maybe the art was not as good as many VN out there, I'm still looking forward to this one even if the yuri was not as good as any other yuri VN (Sono Hanabira). I'll keep my eyes on the progress of this project if available. PS - For more trivia, Moogy of all people vote this VN 8 which said a lot here. The reason I said this was because Moogy's score for Muv Luv Alternative was 7.1 and Fata Morgana was 5.4 for comparison. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vorathiel Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 (edited) Kamige, kamige, kamige kamige. Now I'm really discouraged. Same shit was all over the web, when Himawari wa supposed to came out in eng. 2 hours ago, littleshogun said: PS - For more trivia, Moogy of all people vote this VN 8 which said a lot here. The reason I said this was because Moogy's score for Muv Luv Alternative was 7.1 and Fata Morgana was 5.4 for comparison. Yeah, Crescendo 7.8/10, Steins;Gate 7/10, Comyu 7.4/10, main three Grisaias 7.2 and high praises for Sharin no Kuni, for which he edited fan TL, while Umineko 4/10 and MuvLuv 3/10.. So yeah, his oppinion is... completly unrelevant. At least if you're the person who is reading VNs for substance and not style (prose, etc), which seems to be Moogys' thing. Anyway - I'm interested. Yuri migh be my personal 'saviour' of VNs. First Flowers was great, I heard a good stuff from my (only one reliable) source about Lesbian Nurses, so I'm looking forward to SeaBed and Shadows of Pygmalion. Edited February 11, 2017 by Vorathiel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Okarin Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 (edited) 23 hours ago, DarkZedge said: I'm really hesitant to raise my hopes since it's yuri but perhaps it will be good, only time will tell. I know what you mean... everyone praises the Sonohana series, I actually read 2 of those games, and they're very average novels -if you discount the "excitement" of watching 2 girls go to town, and one of the games I played, "Remembering how we met", was pornless. This seems to be a very different creature though, and I love psychological mess-ups and mindfucks, even if they're not as thorough as Uchikoshi or Serial Experiments Lain. Edited February 11, 2017 by Okarin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darklord Rooke Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 41 minutes ago, Okarin said: Serial Experiments Lain. Brilliant show, especially when it was just released. A thoughtful portrayal of relevant themes wrapped up in a story about a lonely young girl. That's actually my minimum standard before I consider a 'psychological' or 'philosophical' show to be any good and very few hit it. In comparison, Evangelion was a mess (though people love to say it's philosophical, it was just a dude writing his depression and it shows.) It's thought-provoking in a similar way watching someone completely break down in public is thought-provoking, but it's not a coherent exploration of themes. And yet Evangelion is hyped because it's philosophical. Seabed is also hyped because it's psychological and so I'm not going to get onto the kamige hype train before I give it a read. Too many hyped philosophical or psychological shows/anime/VNs aren't executed well. Narcosis 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Okarin Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 I'm not so sure about Evangelion. At age 15 when I watched it, it hit hard. It was grandiose and spectacular, but the mecha genre accommodated the story poorly. Though some things were very well done -like the very start of the show, those UN tanks waiting for the angel, the various conspiracies, the way everyone handles power, etc, etc. So, Evangelion was a good story but over the course of the show they (mainly Anno) lost their way and couldn't convey it properly. The toxic relationships often found in Evangelion belong to a very aged state of the art of psychology, at the Freudian stage probably, and I'm afraid that psychology has avanced immensely and left far behind the Freudian hurdle. After all, most Freudian assumptions were built upon either prejudice, narrow-mindedness or just misconceptions. But hey, would you rather tell a dark story or a hope story? Evangelion had its very small dose of hope. As for Lain, it was probably too much for me. I prefer milder approaches to a mind screw. Steins;Gate and Virtue's Last Reward work for me. Darklord Rooke 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darklord Rooke Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 8 minutes ago, Okarin said: The toxic relationships often found in Evangelion belong to a very aged state of the art of psychology, at the Freudian stage probably, and I'm afraid that psychology has avanced immensely and left far behind the Freudian hurdle. After all, most Freudian assumptions were built upon either prejudice, narrow-mindedness or just misconceptions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Okarin Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 Well, when one is a dabbler in psychology and only has a tenuous grasp of it, they often resort to Freud, he's like the mainstay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nandemonai Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 18 minutes ago, Okarin said: The toxic relationships often found in Evangelion belong to a very aged state of the art of psychology, at the Freudian stage probably, and I'm afraid that psychology has avanced immensely and left far behind the Freudian hurdle. After all, most Freudian assumptions were built upon either prejudice, narrow-mindedness or just misconceptions. But hey, would you rather tell a dark story or a hope story? Evangelion had its very small dose of hope. Let's not be too harsh on Freud. Yes, most of his work has not held up. Yes, he invented explanations to explain away why so many people were telling him they had been abused as children because he just couldn't believe it. But he was the first guy to actually say 'we can try to approach this scientifically'. He can hardly be blamed for stumbling around in the dark while he was the first one to try to shine lights on it in the first place. However poorly he did things, he was the first one to even try. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Okarin Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 Just now, Nandemonai said: Let's not be too harsh on Freud. Yes, most of his work has not held up. Yes, he invented explanations to explain away why so many people were telling him they had been abused as children because he just couldn't believe it. But he was the first guy to actually say 'we can try to approach this scientifically'. He can hardly be blamed for stumbling around in the dark while he was the first one to try to shine lights on it in the first place. However poorly he did things, he was the first one to even try. Well of course, I wasn't saying that. It's pitiful to compare a M1 Abrams battle tank to a chariot from the Bronze Age, true, but they had their merit mastering how to create weapons, tactics and how to melt and use metals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nandemonai Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 1 hour ago, Okarin said: I know what you mean... everyone praises the Sonohana series, I actually read 2 of those games, and they're very average novels -if you discount the "excitement" of watching 2 girls go to town, and one of the games I played, "Remembering how we met", was pornless. Try New Generation. I also am not overly impressed by the earlier titles; they're just boring. The girls are too flat and uninteresting to really care about, and nothing interesting happens except that it's girls-only pizza night. Which I like, but it's not enough. New Gen is better. The characters are more interesting, and the story is also better. Okarin 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Okarin Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 "Girls only pizza night"... I laughed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkZedge Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 2 hours ago, Okarin said: I know what you mean... everyone praises the Sonohana series, I actually read 2 of those games, and they're very average novels -if you discount the "excitement" of watching 2 girls go to town, and one of the games I played, "Remembering how we met", was pornless. This seems to be a very different creature though, and I love psychological mess-ups and mindfucks, even if they're not as thorough as Uchikoshi or Serial Experiments Lain. Glad to see that someone shares my POV, the only Yuri game that managed to lure me in was Flowers thus far but I'll see about this one or Shadows of Pygmalion. Vorathiel 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Okarin Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 (edited) If they keep the price reasonable, nothing wrong with trying this one. Besides it doesn't last an eternity, unlike those eroges with 5+ routes. Damn, I always want to complete them and even plan my route order. Edited February 11, 2017 by Okarin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred the Barber Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 1 hour ago, Nandemonai said: The girls are too flat Jeez, everybody has their own preferences for physical proportions, okay? Also, is this really devolving into a "yuri might not be so bad" thread where nobody's even mentioned the fact that Kindred Spirits is a lovely game (certainly way more entertaining for me than Flowers was...)? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Okarin Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 2 minutes ago, Fred the Barber said: Jeez, everybody has their own preferences for physical proportions, okay? Pardon the interruption, but I guess he was talking about a flatness in writing and overall character design, not art. Also, what's a kamige? Since I'm considering this game I would like to know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred the Barber Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 1 minute ago, Okarin said: Pardon the interruption, but I guess he was talking about a flatness in writing and overall character design, not art. That was a joke, I knew what he meant 2 minutes ago, Okarin said: Also, what's a kamige? Since I'm considering this game I would like to know. Calling a game a "kamige" is a flashy but completely insubstantial way to say you think a game is really good. Avoid using the term, ignore people who use it, and you'll be happier for it. That said, I'll probably keep an eye on SeaBed in spite of people throwing that term around. Darklord Rooke and Vorathiel 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Okarin Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 Here in Spain we have a saying: "if the river makes noise, it does carry a lot of water". Meaning that if something seems so, it probably is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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