ChaosRaven Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 (edited) MangaGamer finally posted their year 2016 review with several top ten lists. In short: Quote First Party Titles (MangaGamer.com, excluding bundle sales) 1.) Beat Blades Haruka 2.) Funbag Fantasy 3.) Imouto Paradise! 4.) Rance VI & 5D 5.) Princess Evangile 6.) euphoria 7.) EROGE! Sex and Games Make Sexy Games 8.) Kindred Spirits on the Roof 9.) Ultimate☆Boob Wars!! 10.) NO, THANK YOU!!! Pretty much all their older big nukiges made it back to the top ten, with ImoPara leading the way. Only the new nukiges Beat Blades Haruka and Funbag Fatasy could fend off their dominance. Rance going strong as expected and Princess Evangile also made a return. No story titles in sight though... . Not really shocked about that anymore - it's every year the same. Although Eden got a top three ranking if I rememer right. I'm not really sure if Steam sales are included or not though since Steam sales got their own list. Quote Third Party Titles (MangaGamer.com) 1.) Negligee – Adult Deluxe 2.) No One But You – Adult Version 3.) Orc Castle 4.) HuniePop 5.) Club Life – Adult Version 6.) The Menagerie 7.) Detective Masochist – The Case of the Femdom Torture – 8.) Beach Bounce – Adult Version 9.) The Stargazers – Adult Version 10.) Busty Maid: Creampie Heaven! Not much to say here... Quote Steam Releases 1.) Kindred Spirits on the Roof 2.) OZMAFIA!! 3.) Umineko Question Arcs 4.) eden* 5.) Higurashi Hou Bundle 6.) Tokyo Babel 7.) Higurashi Ch. 3 Tatarigoroshi 8.) Gahkthun of the Golden Lightning 9.) The House in Fata Morgana 10.) Higurashi Ch. 1 Onikakushi Several titles like Eden celebrating a comeback and Kindred Spirits and Ozmafia leading the pack. Would be interesting to know how big Steam sales are in comparison to sales on their own site. Edited January 7, 2017 by ChaosRaven Nandemonai and mitchhamilton 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WinterfuryZX Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 The situation couldn't be worse. Erogamer 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedK Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 So Himawari and Myth were flops after all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Decay Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 (edited) 1 hour ago, ChaosRaven said: I'm not really sure if Steam sales are included or not though since Steam sales got their own list. Steam sales are not included in that. 1 hour ago, ChaosRaven said: Would be interesting to know how big Steam sales are in comparison to sales on their own site. In past years, they said that steam sales outdid on-site sales by a significant margin. They haven't talked about that in a while however, so it's hard to say what the status of that is now. It's reasonably safe to guess that Steam sales still outweigh on-site sales. Which means that it's likely that Kindred Spirits was MG's top selling title overall for the year. Just now, RedK said: So Himawari and Myth were flops after all. It's hard to say with Himawari since it was released late in the year. Although yeah, Conjueror seemed down on its performance. Edited January 7, 2017 by Decay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
littleshogun Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 I'd already thinking to start the thread about this, but no problem to ChaosRaven there (Thanks). Anyway, looking from Steam sales I think Steam user was apparently quite interested with yuri and uncensored thing with Yurirei at first number of sales in Steam. Other than Steam sales, guess nukige was still goldmine for Mangagamer though looking from top 10 was mostly nukige (Or high sexual content VN). Although I may said that, I'd still find that Haruka was quite good if only for the gameplay alone and Funbag was according from some review was surprisingly good (I'd not read that yet by the way). That's all I could say for now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChaosRaven Posted January 7, 2017 Author Share Posted January 7, 2017 21 minutes ago, Decay said: Steam sales are not included in that. That's unfortunate since it now makes it very hard to compare sales of Steam titles with non-Steam titles. 23 minutes ago, Decay said: In past years, they said that steam sales outdid on-site sales by a significant margin. They haven't talked about that in a while however, so it's hard to say what the status of that is now. It's reasonably safe to guess that Steam sales still outweigh on-site sales. Which means that it's likely that Kindred Spirits was MG's top selling title overall for the year. It wouldn't bet on that. Steam reports about 2016 were indicating that despite an enormous increase in released titles on Steam in 2016, the overall revenue almost stayed the same. Which means that the individual titles sold less on average. For example, apparently Tokyo Babel didn't sell well, but it got 5th place in the Steam rankings. Does that mean that Steam sales were overall bad, or was ist just 'pre-emptive whining' directly after TB release since Steam titles usually have long tails? What makes it even more difficult is that those titles have split releases on MG's own site and Steam. So it's just a given that they stand no chance in MG's home rankings against the adult-only non-Steam titles. I wish they would just make a full list with all titles regardless if Steam or not. It's just hard to compare those titles the way it is now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conjueror Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 (edited) Yeah, I think most MG games, especially story titles, tend to sell better over time. I'm pretty sure Himawari's initial sales were significantly better than TB's too, so I think it's a bit too early to judge its performance, but it definitely wasn't a flop. I didn't expect to see TB above Fata Morgana though. Its sales really seem to have picked up over time. Edited January 7, 2017 by Conjueror Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
novurdim Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 (edited) Pretty sure BBH is nowhere near Yurirei in overall sales lol Edited January 7, 2017 by novurdim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timeless Wizard Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 Gahkthun higher on the Steam list than Fata Morgana.. I hope Mangagamer will pick up the fandisk.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Decay Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 It should be said that surpassing Fata Morgana in sales is not exactly an impressive feat. novurdim 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gumak Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 3 hours ago, ChaosRaven said: 2.) Funbag Fantasy Hopefully it means MG will bring over rest of the franchise. BookwormOtaku 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Funyarinpa Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 3 hours ago, ChaosRaven said: 9.) The House in Fata Morgana You deserve much, much better ;_; Surprised to see that the Higurashi Hou bundle got the #5 spot, though. Hope that means the Meakashi release speeds up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dexmael Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 Are Beat blades haruka and funbag fantasy regarded as nukiges? Having played them they seemed a bit more elaborate as the average 4 hour title I would normally consider a nukige Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dergonu Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 16 minutes ago, Dexmael said: Are Beat blades haruka and funbag fantasy regarded as nukiges? Having played them they seemed a bit more elaborate as the average 4 hour title I would normally consider a nukige Yes, both are nukige. A nukige doesn't have to be bad or shallow. They can still have detailed stories and interesting plot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred the Barber Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 In the end, I didn't much care for Beat Blades Haruka, but Funbag Fantasy was a pretty good VN, IMO. I'm not surprised or even unhappy about seeing a game that's got both a strong nukige appeal and a decently-told VN in one box sitting at #2 for their first-party sales. ImoPara is pretty much garbage, though, so seeing it at #3, three years after release, isn't inspiring a lot of confidence... But nukige sell well. What can you do. As the long as the story titles sell well enough that they can keep putting out good ones, I'll be content with that. BookwormOtaku 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VirginSmasher Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 It sucks to see that games like Himawari and MYTH didn't make the year end list because they definitely deserve sales, but both released later on in the year so they will make more over time. Good to see Fata Morgana and Tokyo Babel though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nandemonai Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 I wonder when they're going to license more Moonstone games. Both of the ones they have made the top ten list in 2016, despite not actually being released in 2016. Evangile is actually the only non-nukige title to achieve that feat on MangaGamer's main storefront. I know they already have W Happiness and Imopara 2 (which ought to do quite well when it finally gets released), but those are both nearing release. Since monster girl heroines seem to be hot right now, maybe Magical Marriage Lunatics? Or maybe they'll go for something similar to Princess Evangile, with Ojou-sama to Himitsu no Otome? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
novurdim Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 (edited) 1 hour ago, Nandemonai said: Evangile is actually the only non-nukige title to achieve that feat on MangaGamer's main storefront. Yurirei (Kindred Spirits, 8 place) is not exactly a nukige either. PS/ ah, wait, by "feat" you probably mean getting into top ten several years in a row. Okay then. Edited January 7, 2017 by novurdim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BookwormOtaku Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 Glad to see Funbag doing well (if we're going to have nukige let's have quality nukige) and I hope this means more games in the series get localized and hopefully some more Waffle games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nandemonai Posted January 8, 2017 Share Posted January 8, 2017 7 hours ago, novurdim said: PS/ ah, wait, by "feat" you probably mean getting into top ten several years in a row. Okay then. Yes. I should clarify that I'm only talking about this year. Koihime managed it a few years ago. After the voice patch was releases, its sales went way up. For like a year after that, it would regularly be in the top 5 on MangaGamer's site. In their year end reviews, Koihime was #7 in 2012, #9 in 2013. After that it fell off, but it made the hard copy bestseller list at #7 in 2014. (Subsequent years did not actually have a seperate hardcopy bestseller list.) Another interesting thing is that Imouto Paradise actually moved up. It made #3 this year (well, last year); the year before (2015) it was only #4. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Funyarinpa Posted January 8, 2017 Share Posted January 8, 2017 15 hours ago, Dexmael said: Having played them they seemed a bit more elaborate as the average 4 hour title I would normally consider a nukige Didn't play BBH, but it's really obvious that FBF is a nukige. The presence of the story doesn't matter as much as whether the story or the sex is more important. Obviously, for FBF, the answer is the sex. Thus it is a nukige. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChaosRaven Posted January 8, 2017 Author Share Posted January 8, 2017 4 hours ago, Nandemonai said: Another interesting thing is that Imouto Paradise actually moved up. It made #3 this year (well, last year); the year before (2015) it was only #4. Not sure about that. Last year they didn't have a separate top ten list for the Steam titles yet, and I don't think Eden would have gotten second place without its Steam sales. Yurirei was most likely their bestseller because of its glorious free "first sex game on Steam" marketing campaign on every game site. And Ozmafia is also known to have sold extremely well. So in a real top ten list it would have been probably 5th I guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
novurdim Posted January 8, 2017 Share Posted January 8, 2017 (edited) 7 minutes ago, ChaosRaven said: Not sure about that. Last year they didn't have a separate top ten list for the Steam titles yet, and I don't think Eden would have gotten second place without its Steam sales Last year they specifically pointed out that their top ten doesn't count steam sales. Those simply weren't accounted for at all so in reality Eden was first with quite a gap when you actually add steam numbers. Edited January 8, 2017 by novurdim ChaosRaven 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChaosRaven Posted January 8, 2017 Author Share Posted January 8, 2017 17 minutes ago, novurdim said: Last year they specifically pointed out that their top ten doesn't count steam sales. Those simply weren't accounted for at all so in reality Eden was first with quite a gap when you actually add steam numbers. Oops, I must have missed that. Wouldn't have expected that Eden got 2nd place without Steam. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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