Infernoplex Posted September 22, 2016 Share Posted September 22, 2016 So I was just randomly browsing VNDB and suddenly I saw this: Sakura Maid ... I knew Wingled Cloud was spamming Sakura titles like crazy but this is insane! I think this is the third Sakura title in like a month! We had Sakura Shrine Girls and Sakura Space quite recently and I can't find a single reason why it's good to have one more Sakura title in such a short span of time. Do these even sell for Christ's Sake? -.- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurisu-Chan Posted September 22, 2016 Share Posted September 22, 2016 ofc they do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkZedge Posted September 22, 2016 Share Posted September 22, 2016 And it's not even the last one : Hello! We are Winged Cloud, and we make ecchi visual novels and anime style games. On Patreon we like to offer you a way to keep yourself informed on how projects are progressing and what work is happening behind the scenes. It also offers us a way to interact with the fans who care very much about whats going on and get some early feedback. Here a short overview of our current projects: Sakura Space: Releasing soon on Steam! Available on Nutaku Sakura Nova: Development almost done Sakura Maid: JUST RELEASED! Source: https://www.patreon.com/wingedcloud Also, yeah they sell well enough on steam and I think on Nutaku as well. They were also promoting the maid one on Twitter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Narcosis Posted September 22, 2016 Share Posted September 22, 2016 They can even charge 30$/month for a patreon subscription and people are happily paying them almost 12k/month for more lousy porn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infernoplex Posted September 22, 2016 Author Share Posted September 22, 2016 16 minutes ago, DarkZedge said: Also, yeah they sell well enough on steam and I think on Nutaku as well. 16 minutes ago, Narcosis said: They can even charge 30$/month for a patreon subscription and people are happily paying them almost 12k/month for more lousy porn. That's just ... sad I mean, I kind of expected that and even knew it from earlier info I got but it still makes me sad that fans are supporting this kind of butchering of the medium and giving bad name to OELVNs in general, and then it's no wonder people look down on it. One can only hope for the best, I guess. XReaper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkZedge Posted September 22, 2016 Share Posted September 22, 2016 1 hour ago, Infernoplex said: That's just ... sad I mean, I kind of expected that and even knew it from earlier info I got but it still makes me sad that fans are supporting this kind of butchering of the medium and giving bad name to OELVNs in general, and then it's no wonder people look down on it. One can only hope for the best, I guess. It's not even fans but instead the Steam and Nutaku crowd that are less than knowledgeable about vns in general and know no better than to support a company that at this point is nothing but a leech sucking the blood out of an already not so big market. They're smart because they market and aim their less than sub par products towards those crowds to exploit them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
littleshogun Posted September 22, 2016 Share Posted September 22, 2016 What???? Really?????? Awesome!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I just looking at this thread and suddenly I saw Sakura Maid release news here. I was always looking forward to Sakura new VN there and now there's two sudden release here. Looks interesting, and thanks Infernoplex to give me this wonderful news. PS - Okay, I didn't knew of how to write sarcasm well, so forgive me for some shortcoming. Oh, for more info actually I already saw Nova premise a little while ago, and I would like to said maybe I should expected dense knight as MC and two squires who somehow fall in love with MC there (Actually, looks like this is the premise of all Sakura games which had one male MC and several girls out there). To answer Infernoplex question, I think Sakura series sales was good enough, otherwise we wouldn't had many Sakura games here although it's questionable though if anyone else want to buy all Sakura games. That's all for my opinion here. Onodera Punpun 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infernoplex Posted September 22, 2016 Author Share Posted September 22, 2016 52 minutes ago, DarkZedge said: It's not even fans but instead the Steam and Nutaku crowd that are less than knowledgeable about vns in general and know no better than to support a company that at this point is nothing but a leech sucking the blood out of an already not so big market. They're smart because they market and aim their less than sub par products towards those crowds to exploit them. I see. Well, I can't really blame Winged Cloud for that. If these Nutaku and Steam crowds don't want to educate themselves then by all means, Winged Cloud deserves and should milk them until they wake up and realise that they deserve better. I mean, the first time that I have played one of these Sakura games, back in 2014 or 2015 I think, I thought it was an OK visual novel with good art but after going through several of them I realised that it's just ecchi stuff for closet virgins, I mean they never bother to improve the formula and bring something interesting to the plot of these games, nothing to really hold you except a bunch of ecchi scenes that seem to be the core of all of these Sakura VNs. I mean, how these Nutaku and Steam crowds fail to see that? I mean, it's not even a proper nukige! 52 minutes ago, littleshogun said: What???? Really?????? Awesome!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I just looking at this thread and suddenly I saw Sakura Maid release news here. I was always looking forward to Sakura new VN there and now there's two sudden release here. Looks interesting, and thanks Infernoplex to give me this wonderful news. I follow you on Fuwa so I kind of already know your opinions about some things and I definitively knew you were sarcastic here 53 minutes ago, littleshogun said: PS - Okay, I didn't knew of how to write sarcasm well, so forgive me for some shortcoming. Oh, for more info actually I already saw Nova premise a little while ago, and I would like to said maybe I should expected dense knight as MC and two squires who somehow fall in love with MC there (Actually, looks like this is the premise of all Sakura games which had one male MC and several girls out there). To answer Infernoplex question, I think Sakura series sales was good enough, otherwise we wouldn't had many Sakura games here although it's questionable though if anyone else want to buy all Sakura games. That's all for my opinion here. I forgive you It didn't manage to come out sarcastic but since I already know you I kind of expected it to be sarcasm when I first read it ^^ ... As for your suggestion about the premise, you could very well be right about it At this point of time I think we can already write even better summaries than Winged Cloud itself, ahahaha xD Here's one I just remembered I have read on Reddit recently so I will just qoute it here: Quote Sakura Hospital "plot" prediction: It could have been a great holiday season for Koji Kuso. However, fate delivered a potentially fatal illness for his five waifus, and he made it his mission to brighten their day in the hospital. One day he receives a message from Doctor Baka. Warily he opens the envelope, and it turns out the girls can be saved by one particular method: a sperm injection. Which one will you defile to save their life? Can the great "plot" replace actual plot? The answers await behind the white doors of Sakura Hospital... I actually tried to think about what to write as a "plot" for Sakura Nova ... But honestly, I can't come up with anything good and the major reason for that is that I can't cope with such a name for a VN ... I mean, what does "Sakura Nova" even mean?? XDDDD What the hell??? I mean, I know what "Nova" by itself mean and I couldn't connect "Sakura" and "Nova" in any way, I even decided to look for the meaning of "Nova" to make sure I know what it means and this is the answer: Quote Nova - a star showing a sudden large increase in brightness and then slowly returning to its original state over a few months. That's similiar to what I had in mind and still, I can't mix Sakura and Nova in any way! We had Sakura Space that takes the plot to space and now we have Sakura Nova which if we take it literally means the plot is on the star?? XD I can't come up with any good plot summaries for that one littleshogun 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkZedge Posted September 22, 2016 Share Posted September 22, 2016 3 minutes ago, Infernoplex said: That's similiar to what I had in mind and still, I can't mix Sakura and Nova in any way! We had Sakura Space that takes the plot to space and now we have Sakura Nova which if we take it literally means the plot is on the star?? XD I can't come up with any good plot summaries for that one Maybe it's a clever spin on how we refer to idols, like Nova as in a super star?....no that'd be too clever for them...it's probably more space stuff or who knows at this point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infernoplex Posted September 22, 2016 Author Share Posted September 22, 2016 (edited) 22 minutes ago, DarkZedge said: Maybe it's a clever spin on how we refer to idols, like Nova as in a super star?....no that'd be too clever for them...it's probably more space stuff or who knows at this point. Well ... I will be honest, that's an interesting idea, I definitively see the logic in it, you could very well be right! But then again now that you have mentoned that, something came to my mind ... If what you say is true ... Then they have maybe stolen the idea ... Look at this: That's an idol VN that Sekai is planning to release and it uses that "Nova" (in this case Starnova) ... I think maybe Winged Cloud grabbed the idea from there XD Edited September 22, 2016 by Infernoplex a typo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkZedge Posted September 22, 2016 Share Posted September 22, 2016 Just now, Infernoplex said: Well ... I will be honest, that's an interesting idea, I definitively see the logic in it, you could very well be right! But then again now that you have mentoned that, something came to my mind ... If what you say is true ... Then they have maybe stolen the idea ... Look at this: That's an idol VN that Sekai is planning to release and it uses that "Nova" (in this case Starnova) ... I think maybe Wingled Cloud grabed the idea from there XD It could be that they took it from there and just went YOLO going ahead using it on their own vn as well, I'm hesitant to call the Sakura series vns. Then again Sekai Project is their publisher so I'm not sure if it's wrong or not to use it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkZedge Posted September 22, 2016 Share Posted September 22, 2016 17 minutes ago, Infernoplex said: I see. Well, I can't really blame Winged Cloud for that. If these Nutaku and Steam crowds don't want to educate themselves then by all means, Winged Cloud deserves and should milk them until they wake up and realise that they deserve better. I mean, the first time that I have played one of these Sakura games, back in 2014 or 2015 I think, I thought it was an OK visual novel with good art but after going through several of them I realised that it's just ecchi stuff for closet virgins, I mean they never bother to improve the formula and bring something interesting to the plot of these games, nothing to really hold you except a bunch of ecchi scenes that seem to be the core of all of these Sakura VNs. I mean, how these Nutaku and Steam crowds fail to see that? I mean, it's not even a proper nukige! See this? : This is the kind of people they're after. Infernoplex 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infernoplex Posted September 22, 2016 Author Share Posted September 22, 2016 22 minutes ago, DarkZedge said: It could be that they took it from there and just went YOLO going ahead using it on their own vn as well, I'm hesitant to call the Sakura series vns. Then again Sekai Project is their publisher so I'm not sure if it's wrong or not to use it. Speaking of publishers, they seem to like to switch between them and change them like pair of socks ... If my memory is good, they started with Sekai Project then switched to MangaGamer then went back to SP and now they are with them ... until they maybe decide to go independent, ahaha 18 minutes ago, DarkZedge said: See this? : This is the kind of people they're after. I just checked out his profile and he actually bought all Sakura VNs! XD No wonder he recommends them, his two only reviews: http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198211723836/recommended/ For some reason, I am not even surprised here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkZedge Posted September 22, 2016 Share Posted September 22, 2016 Just now, Infernoplex said: I just checked out his profile and he actually bought all Sakura VNs! XD No wonder he recommends them, his two only reviews: http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198211723836/recommended/ For some reason, I am not even surprised here Then again anyone would buy them with such great offers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infernoplex Posted September 22, 2016 Author Share Posted September 22, 2016 9 minutes ago, DarkZedge said: Then again anyone would buy them with such great offers That 10$ saving is so generous of them Then again, I think there are better ways to spend 90$ DarkZedge, Vorathiel, Onodera Punpun and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkZedge Posted September 22, 2016 Share Posted September 22, 2016 Just now, Infernoplex said: That 10$ saving is so generous of them Then again, I think there are better ways to spend 90$ Pretty much you could combine any number of vns that add up to that price and still get a better deal. Quality over quantity, I suppose they haven't learned that lesson just yet or they just don't give a shit Infernoplex 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infernoplex Posted September 22, 2016 Author Share Posted September 22, 2016 Just now, DarkZedge said: Pretty much you could combine any number of vns that add up to that price and still get a better deal. Quality over quantity, I suppose they haven't learned that lesson just yet or they just don't give a shit I actually got it a little bit wrong there because I forgot that prices here are in euros so it's probably not exactly 90$ like I wanted to make it but your statement is nevertheless true Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkZedge Posted September 22, 2016 Share Posted September 22, 2016 Just now, Infernoplex said: I actually got it a little bit wrong there because I forgot that prices here are in euros so it's probably not exactly 90$ like I wanted to make it but your statement is nevertheless true Don't sweat the small details, it's close enough. Didn't know about the Danganronpa bundle, that's a good price. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infernoplex Posted September 22, 2016 Author Share Posted September 22, 2016 2 minutes ago, DarkZedge said: Didn't know about the Danganronpa bundle, that's a good price. Me neither, I don't know when they made it available, I literally learned about it just now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yorikbad Posted September 22, 2016 Share Posted September 22, 2016 The worst thing is that they're ruining the whole VN's market. Now people think that typical visual novel is just stupid porn. The truth is, some of the worst japan nukige still has better story then WC's garbage. They're not the first to cash on steam, but they refuse to get better. I mean, they have money, why can't they just hire one decent writer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infernoplex Posted September 22, 2016 Author Share Posted September 22, 2016 (edited) 9 minutes ago, yorikbad said: The worst thing is that they're ruining the whole VN's market. Now people think that typical visual novel is just stupid porn. The truth is, some of the worst japan nukige still has better story then WC's garbage. They're not the first to cash on steam, but they refuse to get better. I mean, they have money, why can't they just hire one decent writer. Exactly, that's something that bothers me too. What's worse, most of "Sakura" titles don't even have porn scenes in them (I am not counting ecchi stuff as real porn). I think that like 4 titles in the whole franchise have 18+ content and one of those that I played wasn't even that good at all. Some of the worst Japanese nukige are better than Sakura Swim Club (or Sakura Swimming Club, whatever, can't remember what it was called). Edited September 22, 2016 by Infernoplex Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hayashi Posted September 23, 2016 Share Posted September 23, 2016 Too much cancer man fml. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wyldstrykr Posted September 23, 2016 Share Posted September 23, 2016 sakura maid review by fuwa people in a nutshell: Quote tl;dr is if you read the previous sakura vns, you probably know the story of this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winter Posted September 23, 2016 Share Posted September 23, 2016 It's definitely milking money. At insane rates well .. cause, the Sakura franchise seems to be everywhere on Steam. Not to mention they'll be on nutaku too, even their patreon is crazy lol . hot damn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Narcosis Posted September 23, 2016 Share Posted September 23, 2016 This is exactly what you do in business if you're only interested in money it brings. People are fucking sheep. XReaper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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