Kurisu-Chan Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 Well, ohayo gozaimasu, namae wa kurisu-chan ...oh and fuck it, i'm never polite with everyone, why would i care here? Ahem, so, welcome and bienvenue to this thread, here, i'm gonna show you a bit of my world, a world, completely twisted and fucked up... I've decided, to launch myself a new objective, a new objective to achieve for my life, and this objective is...Learning japanese, and this is clearely not something you can do like that, i've thought about it for many, many, many months, and i've reached a conclusion : if i don't learn japanese, i'll regret it for the rest of my life, i want, at least for once, to be able to achieve one of my objectives. so, what should i say about it? Well, i think i'll do a report every...day, or week, i don't know, but i'll regularely talk here about my experiences, what frustrated me, what did i like, and some neat experiences, why do i write this thread? to give myself motivation, because i know that alone, i won't be able to hold my schelude, i need motivation, i need extreme motivation. What am i using? Mostly following the ressources material provided by the Tae-Kim thing, i'm also using tangorin and wikipedia, in order to keep a track of the kanji i come accross, i also have memrise and some other apps on my phone, and, most of all, i have a shitton of paper, copybooks only dedicated to japanese learning. I'm going to use my very own learning technique, that i subtly called the "The Blitzkrieg of Doom", oh and don't forget, i'm quite pretentious, so pardon my english if i feel like one of these pretentious brats. My optimal objective, and i know it'll be impossible to achieve, my week will be separated like that : 6 days of kanji learning, 1 day of grammar learning, each kanji day, i'll try to achieve the result of 20 kanji learnt per day, as for the grammar day, i'll try to catch as much grammar rules as possible. At the end of the month, i'll have what i call the "review day" which will help me to review everything i've learnt so far, what i didn't learn, and will help me organize myself. It's a really ambitious experience for me, and i'll work as hard as possible in order to achieve my objective. Then, if you guys have some advices for me, or wanna help me, feel free, as for this thread, i think i'll make one update per week/month, i'm not sure, i'll still think about it. Oh, and i'll start from tomorrow. Then, Mata ne! Funyarinpa, Dergonu, Polycentric and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
littleshogun Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 Didn't had any worthwhile advice here to be honest, although if I want to learn kanji I could just browse characters and seiyuu section at VNDB (Because most of the name should using kanji there). Even though for now I didn't interested much for learning Japanese, nonetheless good luck and don't force yourself there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurisu-Chan Posted September 17, 2016 Author Share Posted September 17, 2016 I'm gonna force myself, because that's where i give the best of myself, i'm quite lazy, but when i find myself near defeat, i always give all what i have in these moments. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrozenRaven Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 My advice would be try not to burn yourself out on it. Learning a language isn't easy and It's a pretty long process. So don't go all out straight away cause most of the time that will burn you out. Just try and get into the habit of studying bit by bit and slowly work your way up from there, that would be best in my opinion. Oh and if you have the money maybe go to something like a language school, cause it doesn't hurt having someone you can ask in person for help. It's also a good way of making sure that you at least have a definite time when you study the language. It also doesn't hurt to have a specific goal in mind like something to work towards for example maybe there is an untranslated vn that you really want to play, maybe you could make it your goal so that if you ever lose faith you can look at that and remember why you are doing this. And make sure to have fun while doing it. Hope it goes well for you. I am rooting for you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zakamutt Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 I think grammar twice a week might be better if you can, it lets you actually read stuff which helps motivation. Other than that, don't you mean kurisu-chan no monogatari? Using wa is more like saying you are a story, though honestly I'm not sure if it even makes much sense Good luck on your assault on the Fapanese language. How often do you wish to be reminded in fsjpg? w Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurisu-Chan Posted September 17, 2016 Author Share Posted September 17, 2016 Meh, i'll let it like that. the mistakes are part of my story, after all. Dergonu 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamnoob Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 ^ Was just about to point out that "wa" basically makes the title Kurisu-chan is a story -.-'' Am also learning Japanese here. Can't really give much advice but I would say grammer > Kanji. Your title already indicates that xD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Narcosis Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 Fucking weebs 59 minutes ago, FrozenRaven said: My advice would be try not to burn yourself out on it. Learning a language isn't easy and It's a pretty long process. English is extremely easy to learn. Russian is very easy. German is easy once you grasp the grammar basics.... so nope, you're wrong. Learning *certain* languages might be difficult, but learning new languages isn't; it's a matter of appropriate mindset. Kawasumi 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Funyarinpa Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 16 minutes ago, Narcosis said: German is easy once you grasp the grammar basics.... I tried to learn German for three years at school, and dude just... wut. Adjective conjugation, article conjugation, changing (often seemingly arbitrary) articles for every noun... Shit is fucking crazy, especially grammar-wise. It's by no means easy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arcadeotic Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 1 hour ago, Funyarinpa said: I tried to learn German for three years at school, and dude just... wut. Adjective conjugation, article conjugation, changing (often seemingly arbitrary) articles for every noun... Shit is fucking crazy, especially grammar-wise. It's by no means easy. German is an extremely systematic language and follows certain schemes almost always without huge amounts of exceptions like, say, English So yeah, German is on the easy side Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eclipsed Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 you're such a biter, I barely just started learning JP and am spamming the 'Fessions thread weekly with my progress, glhf Kurisu-Chan and Dergonu 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurisu-Chan Posted September 17, 2016 Author Share Posted September 17, 2016 32 minutes ago, Eclipsed said: you're such a biter, I barely just started learning JP and am spamming the 'Fessions thread weekly with my progress, glhf Yeh i copied you, i have no shame. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dergonu Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 Best of luck! I would also suggest focusing a little bit more on grammar, and a little bit less on kanji. The kanji is indeed important, but without the grammar to use them in a sentence, they won't help much. Anyways, again, best of luck! sanahtlig 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunter Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 eh . i started to learn basics too, but i'm too much lazy too keep up regular schedules, so i started to abandon the idea... but today ,while talking to the waitress of a japanese restaurant , i learned that a retired japanese teacher was giving class in my town (language+ calligraphy.) if it's not too much expensive,and since i dont do anything like sports or whatever,i think it might be a more efficient way to learn the language. and also , no . german is not on the easy side for everyone. i've been trying to learn it for something like 6 years,and i still dont know how to conjugate a verb,and where i must place it in a phrase. but to be honest,even in french,i suck with grammar and syntax , i know how to write and speak properly cause it's my native language, but i'm unable to explain how the grammar work... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ittaku Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 Need to put my vote in for grammar too. No amount of knowing characters will make you understand the fucked up context dependent sparse language that has incredibly ambiguous grammar that only starts making sense after years of reading tons of shit. Knowing who's doing what to whom is 90% of the battle and nothing can automate that. Kanji can be looked up. sanahtlig 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanahtlig Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 As others have said, focus on grammar. Learning kanji is a very long grind that can be mostly bypassed nowadays with automated parsing and dictionary-lookup. To some extent, optical character recognition (OCR) can even automate this process for text that can't be hooked. Focus on hiragana, katakana, and radicals, and leave the kanji grind for later after you've mastered the grammar. The quicker you pick up the basics (grammar, hiragana, katakana), the quicker you can actually start reading untranslated VNs. It's possible to get to that point in less than 3 months (1 year of Japanese courses or 400hrs of intensive study). The courses are useful if you actually want to be able to speak the language someday and not sound like an anime character trying to speak broken English with a crippling Japanese "accent". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deep Blue Posted September 18, 2016 Share Posted September 18, 2016 Tae kim guide gives you the basic but you really need more to fully understand a VN, while you can read one it wont be an easy thing to do with the basic, you actually need some of the things that imabi teaches you or some books like "a dictionary of japanese grammar", that's my advice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zakamutt Posted September 18, 2016 Share Posted September 18, 2016 ^ Idk about that, I never read no Imabi and started reading moege with the help of jparser-sama with decent success, mostly hampered by terrible vocab. That said it's definitely advisable to check Imabi, I'm just too lazy... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamnoob Posted September 20, 2016 Share Posted September 20, 2016 So errr. No update? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurisu-Chan Posted September 20, 2016 Author Share Posted September 20, 2016 7 hours ago, iamnoob said: So errr. No update? Are you not patient? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkZedge Posted September 20, 2016 Share Posted September 20, 2016 Best of luck to you Kuu-Chan! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eclipsed Posted September 22, 2016 Share Posted September 22, 2016 On 9/20/2016 at 8:59 AM, Kurisu-Chan said: Are you not patient? no, because On 9/17/2016 at 7:32 AM, Kurisu-Chan said: Well, i think i'll do a report every... -->day<--, or week, i don't know, but i'll regularely talk here about my experiences, We demand daily updates!@#$ How's it going btw? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurisu-Chan Posted September 22, 2016 Author Share Posted September 22, 2016 8 hours ago, Eclipsed said: no, because We demand daily updates!@#$ How's it going btw? Danganronpa 3 stole all kind of joy from myself, so it will take a bit longer time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beerbrew Posted September 23, 2016 Share Posted September 23, 2016 Oy! Ankidroid appu wo wasurenaide! I'll pinch you on the cheek if you forget to loosen up lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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