ChaosRaven Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 24 minutes ago, novurdim said: Meh, I'd say cropping of the event CGs is a bit more hurtful than that of some random backgrounds. Depends on what they cut off from the event CG's. Cutting off Gonzou's head was a sin, I'll give you that. But if it's just an unimportant part of the background in an event CG, why should I care more about it than a normal background CC with sprites? Playing the whole VN with a black bar left and right isn't that great either, simply because it looks cropped - and it looks cropped 100% of the time. Still, the perfect solution for everyone would be to just take the high res art assets with the same scale and an option setting for 16:9 or 4:3. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rose Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 53 minutes ago, Narcosis said: KKK is cool, but I'd be truly hyped only if they'd translate RURUR instead. Let's hope Dies irae sells well enough to warrant more Light localizations. I'm more of a fantasy fan though so I'd rather have more Shinza than RURUR, but I have it on my backlog nonetheless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Narcosis Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 32 minutes ago, ChaosRaven said: Playing the whole VN with a black bar left and right isn't that great either, simply because it looks cropped - and it looks cropped 100% of the time. Playing with bars on top and bottom isn't great, either. See what I did there? The point is, past is in the past, present is here and we've yet to see the future. It's a common problem with older games; there are either various display issues or the game doesn't work at all. It is NOT possible to crop artwork well enough to fit both 16:9/10 and 4:3/5:4 aspect ratios, you have to chose. The only thing left is preparing a build with art assets for both, but this means almost 2x the size of stored graphics... and a lot of work, including hugeee production costs. It's quite peculiar, but I've rarely seen studios, actually archiving all the production assets, which is mindboogling. Most often, they get lost with time or various copyright/legal issues prevent them from being stored/re-used (especially cases, when you work with freelancers and they aren't working on a plain contract, but more of a contribution). most often, these change with time and aren't able to work on a reneval version anymore, or take their work assets away with them, meaning the chances for a possible redraw/corrections become slim. 26 minutes ago, Rose said: Let's hope Dies irae sells well enough to warrant more Light localizations. I'm more of a fantasy fan though so I'd rather have more Shinza than RURUR, but I have it on my backlog nonetheless. I personally find RURUR more interesting and better than Dies or KKK. Why? Dies Irae concerns topics and subjects which are - in fact - truly exotic to most japanese (and us), while KKK is a folklore tale reminiscent of ancient japanese classics and something most western players (not talking about weebs here) will have a hard time getting into. RURUR is basically a semi-hard sci-fi adaptation of The Little Prince, only for adults Rose, Jartse and Suzu Fanatic 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rose Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 9 minutes ago, Narcosis said: I personally find RURUR more interesting and better than Dies or KKK. Why? Dies Irae concerns topics and subjects which are - in fact - truly exotic to most japanese (and us), while KKK is a folklore tale reminiscent of ancient japanese classics and something most western players (not talking about weebs here) will have a hard time getting into. RURUR is basically a semi-hard sci-fi adaptation of The Little Prince, only for adults Well, guess I now know the next title I should attempt to read. Thanks Narcosis. Kawasumi 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChaosRaven Posted August 21, 2016 Share Posted August 21, 2016 2 hours ago, Narcosis said: The point is, past is in the past, present is here and we've yet to see the future. It's a common problem with older games; there are either various display issues or the game doesn't work at all. It is NOT possible to crop artwork well enough to fit both 16:9/10 and 4:3/5:4 aspect ratios, you have to chose. The only thing left is preparing a build with art assets for both, but this means almost 2x the size of stored graphics... and a lot of work, including hugeee production costs. It's quite peculiar, but I've rarely seen studios, actually archiving all the production assets, which is mindboogling. Most often, they get lost with time or various copyright/legal issues prevent them from being stored/re-used (especially cases, when you work with freelancers and they aren't working on a plain contract, but more of a contribution). most often, these change with time and aren't able to work on a reneval version anymore, or take their work assets away with them, meaning the chances for a possible redraw/corrections become slim. The suggestion was only for older versions of course since it doesn't make sense to support 4:3 anymore today for a new title. But if old art assets have this ratio it can't be changed anymore. In that case they could just add a zoom factor so the 4:3 is zoomed in to cover the whole 16:9 area. Programming that is piece of cake, especially considering that Unity gets more and more popular amongst VN developers. And there are already VN's with full HD 1920x1080 images out there so the art assets for an older title will hardly be a problem because they've still lower resolutions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conjueror Posted August 21, 2016 Share Posted August 21, 2016 Well, Dies already has a PSP port where everything is 16:9 (not sure if it's cropped or whatever; I don't think I ever notice these things). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suzu Fanatic Posted August 21, 2016 Share Posted August 21, 2016 6 minutes ago, Conjueror said: Well, Dies already has a PSP port where everything is 16:9 (not sure if it's cropped or whatever; I don't think I ever notice these things). Probably safe to assume (if this really is coming to steam) it will be a port of the psp version than - it would neatly take care of several perceived issues all at once. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yuuko Posted August 21, 2016 Author Share Posted August 21, 2016 2 minutes ago, Suzu Fanatic said: Probably safe to assume (if this really is coming to steam) it will be a port of the psp version than - it would neatly take care of several perceived issues all at once. They are also making Vita, Android, and iOS versions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suzu Fanatic Posted August 21, 2016 Share Posted August 21, 2016 32 minutes ago, Kiriririri said: They are also making Vita, Android, and iOS versions. Not really a surprise - with the psp as a solid base, porting to other handhelds can't be that much trouble (other then to perhaps toss in some revamps and touchups to entice consumers.). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WinterfuryZX Posted August 21, 2016 Share Posted August 21, 2016 2 hours ago, Suzu Fanatic said: Probably safe to assume (if this really is coming to steam) it will be a port of the psp version than - it would neatly take care of several perceived issues all at once. There's already an official PC backport of Amantes Amentes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nozomi95 Posted August 21, 2016 Share Posted August 21, 2016 Guys. I waited for this VN too long. Does enybody know WHEN it will come out in english? WHEN? ^^ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nozomi95 Posted August 21, 2016 Share Posted August 21, 2016 and what a cool guys did translate it??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akaritan Posted August 21, 2016 Share Posted August 21, 2016 Next time, I would recommend condensing everything you want to say in to one post. I can't give an exact date, but I hear that Dies is very long, so expect a large wait. Conjueror hasn't explicitly said that he's translating it, but he's a likely bet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Narcosis Posted August 21, 2016 Share Posted August 21, 2016 Depending on how much money they've been given, and what are their priorities at the moment, I'd estimate around one/one and a half to two years and more and that's with translators working primarily only on Dies Irae. Dies is not only long, it's very difficult and it will require numerous script revisions to maintain a high level of translation quality. Still, I'd prefer them to take time and do their best, rather than rush things. After all, the rights have been acquired and we will get it, sooner or later There's really no need to rush. akaritan, VirginSmasher and douggle 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WinterfuryZX Posted August 21, 2016 Share Posted August 21, 2016 1 hour ago, Narcosis said: Depending on how much money they've been given, and what are their priorities at the moment, I'd estimate around one/one and a half to two years and more and that's with translators working primarily only on Dies Irae. Dies is not only long, it's very difficult and it will require numerous script revisions to maintain a high level of translation quality. Still, I'd prefer them to take time and do their best, rather than rush things. After all, the rights have been acquired and we will get it, sooner or later There's really no need to rush. The translation shouldn't take that long, they are already translating it. The actual release is another thing, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Decay Posted August 21, 2016 Share Posted August 21, 2016 I would very strongly recommend that you guys wait for an official announcement before jumping to conclusions on release dates. Canicheslayer, XReaper, Tehoa and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Narcosis Posted August 21, 2016 Share Posted August 21, 2016 INB4 "It was all a hoax" Suzu Fanatic 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Decay Posted August 22, 2016 Share Posted August 22, 2016 http://www.light.gr.jp/light/products/dies_portal/index.html Why hello there, Kickstarter logo. VirginSmasher, Daydreamer97, Vorathiel and 5 others 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldur Posted August 22, 2016 Share Posted August 22, 2016 4 minutes ago, Decay said: Why hello there, Kickstarter logo. Ought to be fun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rose Posted August 22, 2016 Share Posted August 22, 2016 8 minutes ago, Decay said: Why hello there, Kickstarter logo. Kinda funny how unexistent this whole announcement's hype has been. Random banner on a tweet and then suddenly kickstarter logo. The whole text is in JP even, are they planning on making the Japanese fans fund it for us? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
douggle Posted August 22, 2016 Share Posted August 22, 2016 4 hours ago, Decay said: http://www.light.gr.jp/light/products/dies_portal/index.html Why hello there, Kickstarter logo. Not sayig its the case but the anime was funded via KS maybe this plays in? even if there is a KS though I m buying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldur Posted August 22, 2016 Share Posted August 22, 2016 11 minutes ago, douggle said: Not sayig its the case but the anime was funded via KS maybe this plays in? even if there is a KS though I m buying. It wasn't funded through KS, but with a japanese crowdfunding site instead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
douggle Posted August 22, 2016 Share Posted August 22, 2016 4 minutes ago, Baldur said: It wasn't funded through KS, but with a japanese crowdfunding site instead. Ah, either way even if it gets a KS i ll gladly fund it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanahtlig Posted August 22, 2016 Share Posted August 22, 2016 8 hours ago, Rose said: Kinda funny how unexistent this whole announcement's hype has been. Random banner on a tweet and then suddenly kickstarter logo. The whole text is in JP even, are they planning on making the Japanese fans fund it for us? Maybe the "announcement" is aimed at other Japanese companies rather than English users? Sort of like bragging about your career aspirations to your coworkers? Rose 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
douggle Posted August 22, 2016 Share Posted August 22, 2016 21 minutes ago, sanahtlig said: Maybe the "announcement" is aimed at other Japanese companies rather than English users? Sort of like bragging about your career aspirations to your coworkers? Certainly can't deny that possibility as they still havent given us an English announce about this yet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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