shcboomer Posted July 2, 2013 Share Posted July 2, 2013 To everyone who volunteered to do editing, I'll send you files to edit within 24 hours, once I finish merging jp and en versions of script files properly. Thanks RusAnon, looking forward to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tamamo Posted July 2, 2013 Share Posted July 2, 2013 Okie dokie, make this as efficient and effective as possible. Data in, Data Out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jas123 Posted July 2, 2013 Share Posted July 2, 2013 Quick question about the compatibility of the patch, will this only work on hard copies or will digital dl's from play-asia work as well? Also I wouldn't mind giving a hand on editing, however I haven't done it before. Thanks for doing this I think I'll actually buy this now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buttface Posted July 2, 2013 Share Posted July 2, 2013 Quick question about the compatibility of the patch, will this only work on hard copies or will digital dl's from play-asia work as well? Also I wouldn't mind giving a hand on editing, however I haven't done it before. Thanks for doing this I think I'll actually buy this now. The first post says it will be compatible with the play-asia version. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RusAnon Posted July 2, 2013 Author Share Posted July 2, 2013 Quick question about the compatibility of the patch, will this only work on hard copies or will digital dl's from play-asia work as well? I believe it will work with any EN version, since it would be weird for them to have different data files, but this has to be checked. Actually, it would be nice if someone could check hashes of files from different versions of EN release (hard copy, play-asia DD, MG DD). My copy has these: 18778985b239919f30ba90b6c1ae2058 Voice.arc 957c6142056f9b790143e69d1f2e078d Rio.arc 7c46ebacc191b3e162a924f7093743fb GRAPHIC.arc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REtransInternational Posted July 2, 2013 Share Posted July 2, 2013 Unauthorized modifications constitute a breach of copyright, if the company chooses to go after it. Providing a place to congregate and organize a breach of copyright could be legally problematic in a similar manner as torrent sites (after all, they don't host content either). I'm not passing any judgment; I'm simply pointing out that Aaeru should make it clear what she plans to do in the event of a C&D (if not to the public at large, at least in private to the other project members). EULAs are not copyright. They can deny you support, but if you aren't distributing copyrighted material* they can't come after you. You own your hard drive, you bought it, you own the bits. Copyright may prevent you from sharing those bits with others but it doesn't get in the way of what you do with your copy (who's to know who did or didn't change their copy anyway.) *This is why patches should always be distributed delta-encoded from the original --- the user will need an original copy to apply the patch, otherwise the patch is nothing more than random data. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tromend Posted July 2, 2013 Share Posted July 2, 2013 EULAs are not copyright. They can deny you support, but if you aren't distributing copyrighted material* they can't come after you. You own your hard drive, you bought it, you own the bits. Copyright may prevent you from sharing those bits with others but it doesn't get in the way of what you do with your copy (who's to know who did or didn't change their copy anyway.) *This is why patches should always be distributed delta-encoded from the original --- the user will need an original copy to apply the patch, otherwise the patch is nothing more than random data. All the things I wanted to write put down just in the last post XDDDD It's exactly as said. Have anyne thought of why there are patches for games (Random examples) like GTAIV in which you can go as a character from some anime, this also was on the GTA San Andreas, and a lot of games which have similar fashions?. I consider this Patchs "Addons" to the game. You have the game, you have the addon, you have what you want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AsuBoy77 Posted July 2, 2013 Share Posted July 2, 2013 Really looking forward for this. At first i really sad when MoeNovel released it with no H-scenes, even they removed the kissing scene. But this project really made me want to play it again. I'm sorry that i couldn't be help in other than moral support Wish you all the best for this project, and i think most of Indonesia vn readers are looking forward it too. Thank You for the project once again! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RusAnon Posted July 2, 2013 Author Share Posted July 2, 2013 Ok, I believe I've sent a PM/email to everyone who offered help on editing. Please PM me if I missed you. Also, first post has updated stats on lines. Overall lines to edit are a bit higher than original estimation, but these cannot really be omitted because it would be weird to have h-scenes not connected to other story. 8000 lines is still reasonable amount for 5 translators. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ripdog Posted July 2, 2013 Share Posted July 2, 2013 Hi all editors! Just a few things to take note of: American English. Replace senior with senpai. The \n's you see scattered around stand for newlines - i.e., a textual representation of the enter button. Make sure they exist in your edited lines at approximately the same position as the unedited lines, otherwise the edited line may overflow out of the textbox ingame. It can all be fixed, of course, but it's just more work. Be sure to maintain single quotes in spoken lines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shcboomer Posted July 2, 2013 Share Posted July 2, 2013 Will do, I'll be sure to get as much done as soon as possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tempest Posted July 2, 2013 Share Posted July 2, 2013 Thanks for doing this! this game looks really really good but i am refusing to play some edited crap... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metaler Posted July 2, 2013 Share Posted July 2, 2013 Thank you for taking the initiative to bring this game to people the way it was meant to be played. I wish you the best of luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kotarou Posted July 3, 2013 Share Posted July 3, 2013 I'm willing to do editing as well. English is my native language so I can easily help with editing as I have a lot of time on my hand. I do not have any experience editing however I can do plain-text. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanahtlig Posted July 3, 2013 Share Posted July 3, 2013 Copyright may prevent you from sharing those bits with others but it doesn't get in the way of what you do with your copy (who's to know who did or didn't change their copy anyway.) The intention here isn't for RusAnon to make a patch to apply to his own game. He's making a patch for mass distribution. MoeNovel could C&D him just like Mangagamer C&D'd Aaeru. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shcboomer Posted July 3, 2013 Share Posted July 3, 2013 The intention here isn't for RusAnon to make a patch to apply to his own game. He's making a patch for mass distribution. MoeNovel could C&D him just like Mangagamer C&D'd Aaeru. Good luck with that is all I can say... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
メルP Posted July 3, 2013 Share Posted July 3, 2013 MoeNovel could C&D him just like Mangagamer C&D'd Aaeru. They could? They can express their wish. Whether to grant this wish or not is up to RusAnon. Besides I'm pretty sure this patch will be done by different people if this project for some reason canceled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metaler Posted July 3, 2013 Share Posted July 3, 2013 Fellas, could someone please explain to me how this patch would (as some people have been saying 'round some places) encourage piracy? I can't wrap my head around that, so it'd be nice to have some other insights. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RusAnon Posted July 3, 2013 Author Share Posted July 3, 2013 Guys, really, please move unrelated to actual TL discussions to MN thread. Speculating on "what if" scenarios and piracy overall doesn't help project at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rakushun Posted July 3, 2013 Share Posted July 3, 2013 It encourages piracy in the sense that intellectual property advocates claim that creation of something gives the creator vast, absurd rights to control everyone who comes into possession of their creation. Like that time I installed an upright dildo on my computer chair and violated the rights of Office Depot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Posted July 3, 2013 Share Posted July 3, 2013 If needed I can move all the piracy/CnD/morality discussion to the topic of Konosora in VN talk. Just say so RusAnon and ill do it. (don't want to do it unless you feel its absolutely necessary, as it then confuses people "where are my posts" etc. So only if you really think its out of hand.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 3, 2013 Share Posted July 3, 2013 It encourages piracy in the sense that intellectual property advocates claim that creation of something gives the creator vast, absurd rights to control everyone who comes into possession of their creation. Like that time I installed an upright dildo on my computer chair and violated the rights of Office Depot. except that it didn't just come into people's possession. people had to buy it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REtransInternational Posted July 3, 2013 Share Posted July 3, 2013 The \n's you see scattered around stand for newlines - i.e., a textual representation of the enter button. Make sure they exist in your edited lines at approximately the same position as the unedited lines, otherwise the edited line may overflow out of the textbox ingame. It can all be fixed, of course, but it's just more work.Here's an idea for RusAnon that might make it easier for everyone working with the text: Forget about the newlines completely. If there's any existing ones in the script, strip them out. Figure out the maximum width of lines and upon insertion, process the text through a wordwrap filter to insert linebreaks where needed. You could still allow explicit linebreaks with \n in the very rare case that it's significant. Counting characters and worrying about where to put linebreaks is technical details. That's what we do. Translators and editors shouldn't need to concern themselves with that. Of course this is much more relevant when translating than editing, but it helps too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rakushun Posted July 3, 2013 Share Posted July 3, 2013 except that it didn't just come into people's possession. people had to buy it. Yeah, somebody had to buy it originally, but I worded it that way because IP laws supposedly constrict not only the buyer but everyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanahtlig Posted July 3, 2013 Share Posted July 3, 2013 Guys, really, please move unrelated to actual TL discussions to MN thread. Speculating on "what if" scenarios and piracy overall doesn't help project at all. I disagree, as one should always expect the worst (and plan accordingly) while hoping for the best. But I'll respect your request. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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