Eushully VNs

[experta]

Hello, I am curious if I can find some information on Eushully VNs in general. I've played Alchemy Meister and as far as I have found out there are partial patches but nothing complete for any of their more modern works which blows my mind considering from what I've seen they make pretty good games. I just got off Bunny Black 1 and 2 and was hoping to keep going with another RPG/Dungeon crawler and was hoping for something from Eushully. I am just curious if there are any active translation groups and where I can follow them since I haven't managed to dig up anything myself. Thanks.

[ChaosRaven]

Aroduc from Seiha Translations might be up to something from Eushully again. There's even a big thread Kamidori 2 in the Seiha forums which is unfortunately locked for outsiders. I heard a rumour that it might be Himegari Dungeon Meister, but considering that it's probably one of Eushully's weakest titles, I find that somehow hard to believe. It might still be true, since I don't know how difficult Eushully's other titles are to hack and Himegari could therefore be the only title he's able to work on.

[Clephas]

Full translations of their best stuff, like IMZ, is unlikely... for one thing, most of the IM universe's stuff has just enough weird terminology to make it impossible for a machine translation to do any good, lol.  That means the people doing those 'machine translations' will end up with gobbledygook that is completely and utterly wrong, hahaha.

[Kelebek1]

17 hours ago, ChaosRaven said:

Aroduc from Seiha Translations might be up to something from Eushully again. There's even a big thread Kamidori 2 in the Seiha forums which is unfortunately locked for outsiders. I heard a rumour that it might be Himegari Dungeon Meister, but considering that it's probably one of Eushully's weakest titles, I find that somehow hard to believe. It might still be true, since I don't know how difficult Eushully's other titles are to hack and Himegari could therefore be the only title he's able to work on.

He won't, he hates Eushully.

All their games are translate-able, no tech issues.

[ChaosRaven]

14 minutes ago, Kelebek1 said:

He won't, he hates Eushully.

Well, he did translate Kamidori, so... 

[Kelebek1]

11 minutes ago, ChaosRaven said:

Well, he did translate Kamidori, so... 

Yeah, and he didn't like the game while doing it. But the main reason is what happened after Kamidori. You missed his whole kickstarter drama? He said he won't go back to Eushully after that.

[experta]

13 minutes ago, Kelebek1 said:

Yeah, and he didn't like the game while doing it. But the main reason is what happened after Kamidori. You missed his whole kickstarter drama? He said he won't go back to Eushully after that.

What happened?

[ChaosRaven]

24 minutes ago, Kelebek1 said:

Yeah, and he didn't like the game while doing it. But the main reason is what happened after Kamidori. You missed his whole kickstarter drama? He said he won't go back to Eushully after that.

When the Kamidori patch was released I was still rather new to VN's and didn't really know the translation scene yet. The only thing I can remember is that apparently the game engine was a chore to work with.

[Kirashi]

 

On 4/6/2016 at 6:53 PM, Kelebek1 said:

Yeah, and he didn't like the game while doing it. But the main reason is what happened after Kamidori. You missed his whole kickstarter drama? He said he won't go back to Eushully after that.

On 4/6/2016 at 7:07 PM, experta said:

What happened?

I'm curious too, what happened?

[Scorp]

@Kirashi @experta

http://forums.fuwanovel.net/topic/1056-a-veteran-tl-suggests-a-kickstarter-to-fund-a-fan-translation/

[Decay]

On 6/3/2016 at 6:35 PM, ChaosRaven said:

Aroduc from Seiha Translations might be up to something from Eushully again. There's even a big thread Kamidori 2 in the Seiha forums which is unfortunately locked for outsiders. I heard a rumour that it might be Himegari Dungeon Meister, but considering that it's probably one of Eushully's weakest titles, I find that somehow hard to believe. It might still be true, since I don't know how difficult Eushully's other titles are to hack and Himegari could therefore be the only title he's able to work on.

You shouldn't be taking those forum names with any amount of seriousness whatsoever. There's an extremely good chance the game being referred to as "Kamidori 2" isn't Eushully at all.

[XReaper]

27 minutes ago, Decay said:

You shouldn't be taking those forum names with any amount of seriousness whatsoever. There's an extremely good chance the game being referred to as "Kamidori 2" isn't Eushully at all.

absolutely. that part of the forum gets always named in a slightly missleading, btw. totally random manner and its name does change every couple of weeks.

[ChaosRaven]

36 minutes ago, XReaper said:

absolutely. that part of the forum gets always named in a slightly missleading, btw. totally random manner and its name does change every couple of weeks.

Well, I guess in this case it's most likely Bunny Black 3. Makes sense to complete the trilogy. He seems to like the franchise otherwise he would hardly have translated the first two parts.

Not sure what else he might translate. He seems to stick to gameplay titles and there aren't that much quality titles besides Eushully and Alice Soft. He won't do Alice Soft except it's for MangaGamer and I'm not sure if he's a big fan of Debonosu, NineTail or Astronauts. Though the Sengoku Hime titles from Gesen 18 don't look so bad even if nobody seems to talk about them.

I still wouldn't rule out an Eushully title. The incident was years ago, and Eushully's reaction was just typical Japanese VN developer stubborness - not really worth to hold a personal grudge over years.

[Kirashi]

14 minutes ago, ChaosRaven said:

Well, I guess in this case it's most likely Bunny Black 3. Makes sense to complete the trilogy. He seems to like the franchise otherwise he would hardly have translated the first two parts.

Not sure what else he might translate. He seems to stick to gameplay titles and there aren't that much quality titles besides Eushully and Alice Soft. He won't do Alice Soft except it's for MangaGamer and I'm not sure if he's a big fan of Debonosu, NineTail or Astronauts. Though the Sengoku Hime titles from Gesen 18 don't look so bad even if nobody seems to talk about them.

I still wouldn't rule out an Eushully title. The incident was years ago, and Eushully's reaction was just typical Japanese VN developer stubborness - not really worth to hold a personal grudge over years.

I don't think so, he said in his last new that he doesn't plan to translate bb3 for the time being.

[Decay]

That forum has also been around and named various farcical things for like a couple years now. It's a project that has been in the works for some time.

[XReaper]

he´s mentioned that mangagamer is, or may be interested in doing bunnyblack3, so he wont pull a stunt of possibly ruining it for them. and regarding holding old grudges...

[experta]

Either way I do hope there are more gameplay titles on the horizon. Bunny Black 3 is something I am really looking forward to. Based on what I saw on the VNdatabase, I do hope we get more Eushully titles, they look fun is all I'm saying, heh.

[sanahtlig]

On 6/4/2016 at 0:53 PM, Kelebek1 said:

Yeah, and he didn't like the game while doing it. But the main reason is what happened after Kamidori. You missed his whole kickstarter drama? He said he won't go back to Eushully after that.

What?  What does the Littlewitch Romanesque Kickstarter drama have to do with Eushully?

As far as I can tell Aroduc hates on everything.  Like Zack Parsons of SomethingAwful.

[littleshogun]

I think between Aroduc's Romanesque drama and Eushully title there's no connection between it. He was more the type of the one who look at the engine rather than the story. And about Kamidori, I think he complained about how he must work for the scripts which had same dialogue, only had slightly different word and it's counting as different script or something like that. And he complained about how Kamidori story was quite bland. Well, let's just said Aroduc was quite eccentric person and leave it at that.

As for Eushully games, from my experienced for playing using NekoHen patch, it wasn't that bad, although the translation was very awful. I mean at least I'm still understand what's the meaning in the translated word ie since Eushully script was quite basic, I think MT was quite sufficient (Of course once again the translation is bad). But keep in mind that I only play Soukoku, Madou Koukaku, and Himegari which to be said the story was quite standard compared to Ikusa (I still not tried Ikusa by the way). Well, to OP if you willing to play Eushully games using MT narration patch from nekohen, go ahead and hopefully you already be able to pick some spoken Japanese dialogue, because you'll need it.

I think I would not compared Aroduc to Zack Parson. Because while Aroduc was quite eccentric like Zack, at least Aroduc was still understand what kind of Japanese VN is. While from Brave Soul review that Zack write (I understand if you salty about him sanahtlig, because I remember you recommended Brave Soul on your Sakura Dugeon review) I got impression that he didn't quite like it, especially the graphic and by the way he was expected porn and from 6 hours he played it he still didn't get it (I knew that Brave Soul was supposed to be usual JRPG and had late H-Scenes, but the reason I said that people already see VN was filled with porn back in very very very heavily divisive discussion about nukige was because this review. Zack was expected porn from Brave Soul, and please don't discuss about H-Content in VN again). And I think Zack was had trauma with Diablo there. I think that's all for my comment here.

[Kelebek1]

8 hours ago, sanahtlig said:

What?  What does the Littlewitch Romanesque Kickstarter drama have to do with Eushully?

As far as I remember, Aroduc wanted to get a job at Eushully or something. He contacted them about Kamidori, but either got blanked or rejected for whatever he wanted. It was after that that he went to make that kickstarter, then got turned down again. I could be completely wrong, but that's what I heard, or thought I heard.

He changed the name of the section now to Battle Moon Wars 2 anyways.

[sanahtlig]

7 hours ago, littleshogun said:

While from Brave Soul review that Zack write (I understand if you salty about him sanahtlig, because I remember you recommended Brave Soul on your Sakura Dugeon review) I got impression that he didn't quite like it, especially the graphic and by the way he was expected porn and from 6 hours he played it he still didn't get it (I knew that Brave Soul was supposed to be usual JRPG and had late H-Scenes, but the reason I said that people already see VN was filled with porn back in very very very heavily divisive discussion about nukige was because this review.

I'm not "salty" about Zack Parsons.  His "reviews" were genuinely entertaining, and he was on good terms with JAST USA and Peter Payne.  In any case, he spent quite a bit of time on games he "hated".  Just like Aroduc.

[Decay]

I actually am pretty sure that Zack Parsons has a real distaste for eroge, but that's neither here nor there. Something Awful's Hentai Game Reviews introduced literally hundreds of thousands of people, possibly even millions, to those games, and they would have otherwise never heard of them. The entire VN industry probably owes a lot to that series, even if it reinforced the stigma among outsiders. Also, they were hilarious.

Back to the point, I don't know about any official work Aroduc was attempting with Eushully, but I wouldn't be surprised if he tried, and predictably got shot down. 

From what I'm hearing about these summer conventions, pretty much anything is available for licensing these days, so who knows, maybe an official Eushully deal will finally be struck

[XReaper]

eushully thinks of sekai being non-profitable enough after the latter one having been interested in a possible partnership, which doesnt make it sound like they´re totally against the idea of a western approach in general.

[TakunDes]

There are some other VN made by Eshully that are translated. EG Himegari Dungeon Meister and Ikusa Megami Zero (Full edited machine translation)

Eshully games are very heavy RPG and usually around 50 + hours long. It took me over 3 weeks to complete all routes on Madou and thats like 8 hours a day. I do agreed they makes really good RPG visual novels. sadly i don't think anyone will bother translating any of them since almost none did nor is interested in any RPG genre except nekohen so far.

I wish JAST / Mangagamer would work with Eshully since their games are really awesome. (Played like 6 and most are my favourites already, especially Madou Koukaku, Soukoku no Arterial and Verita)

[experta]

26 minutes ago, TakunDes said:

There are some other VN made by Eshully that are translated. EG Himegari Dungeon Meister and Ikusa Megami Zero (Full edited machine translation)

Eshully games are very heavy RPG and usually around 50 + hours long. It took me over 3 weeks to complete all routes on Madou and thats like 8 hours a day. I do agreed they makes really good RPG visual novels. sadly i don't think anyone will bother translating any of them since almost none did nor is interested in any RPG genre except nekohen so far.

I wish JAST / Mangagamer would work with Eshully since their games are really awesome. (Played like 6 and most are my favourites already, especially Madou Koukaku, Soukoku no Arterial and Verita)

Well, I can't understand why anyone would like a Sakura game. The chars are always re-used, the dialog is cringe worthy and there is never a story and it's always a quick cash grab. Different people, different tastes and all that. I for one enjoy my long VNs more so if it offers great gameplay rather then something gimmicky. I refuse to believe that people who enjoy a good VN and some fun gameplay are a minority so I will keep my fingers crossed we get more games.......or maybe its time I start learning Japanese for real.......