Kawasumi Posted April 4, 2016 Share Posted April 4, 2016 So I woke up to this announcement, apparently a lot of money from a lot of rich/famous and other influential peoples have been going through a law firm in Panama. This leak is the biggest leak yet and could come with a lot of disturbing news from all over the world. People with a lot of money tend to do tax evasion, nothing new there. But I cant help to be excited when stuff like this gets revealed http://panamapapers.sueddeutsche.de/articles/56febff0a1bb8d3c3495adf4/ AaronIsCrunchy and Suzu Fanatic 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nosebleed Posted April 4, 2016 Share Posted April 4, 2016 This papers essentially confirm what everyone already knew for ages, and now there's no hiding it. I'm actually more surprised so many journalists managed to keep this under wraps and release everything simultaneously for the world to see. Makes me have hope for real journalism. Grab your popcorns boys, the drama is about to be real. Rose, Kawasumi and Suzu Fanatic 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nayleen Posted April 4, 2016 Share Posted April 4, 2016 3 minutes ago, Nosebleed said: ... so many journalists managed to keep this under wraps and release everything simultaneously for the world to see. They pretty much had to in order not to get Snowden'd or Assange'd. We'll probably see some of them dropping dead over mysterious circumstances, though. kingdomcome 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Down Posted April 4, 2016 Share Posted April 4, 2016 Governments have been pretending to fight against tax fraud and evasion and not actually doing anything for ages but with such an avalanche of evidence we can hope for some concrete action. I wonder if wikileaks will release the whole raw documents. Even criminals have a right to private life but people have already pointed out the disturbingly low amount of people from some countries - very few americans, and the most put-forward leaks are people like Putin, Saudi Arabian dudes, or western people that were already known to be huge fraudsters. Of course the investigation is far from over and covers only one of many offshore counsellor companies so it could be a coincidence, but who knows. sanahtlig 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Funyarinpa Posted April 4, 2016 Share Posted April 4, 2016 20 minutes ago, Nosebleed said: This papers essentially confirm what everyone already knew for ages, and now there's no hiding it. I'm actually more surprised so many journalists managed to keep this under wraps and release everything simultaneously for the world to see. Makes me have hope for real journalism. Grab your popcorns boys, the drama is about to be real. holy shit congrats on the 12K Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nayleen Posted April 4, 2016 Share Posted April 4, 2016 20 minutes ago, Down said: ... very few americans, and the most put-forward leaks are people like Putin, Saudi Arabian dudes, or western people that were already known to be huge fraudsters. No one from Germany when I checked yesterday. LIKE HELL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Funyarinpa Posted April 4, 2016 Share Posted April 4, 2016 Please be Erdoğan, please be Erdoğan, please be Erdoğan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solidbatman Posted April 4, 2016 Share Posted April 4, 2016 I like to imagine the 2.6TB turns out to just be someone's anime collection bigfatround0 and Okarin 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chaosfirebit Posted April 4, 2016 Share Posted April 4, 2016 36 minutes ago, solidbatman said: I like to imagine the 2.6TB turns out to just be someone's anime collection or porn bigfatround0 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solidbatman Posted April 4, 2016 Share Posted April 4, 2016 1 minute ago, chaosfirebit said: or porn Anime is porn bigfatround0 and Okarin 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chaosfirebit Posted April 4, 2016 Share Posted April 4, 2016 1 minute ago, solidbatman said: Anime is porn WHAT U SAY M8!!?!??!?!? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkeysrumble Posted April 4, 2016 Share Posted April 4, 2016 Well this should be fun. Let's watch this shit unfold. https://www.reddit.com/live/wp1fvdxxwb45/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Down Posted April 4, 2016 Share Posted April 4, 2016 5 hours ago, Nayleen said: No one from Germany when I checked yesterday. LIKE HELL. The newspaper originally contacted by the leaker was the Süddeutsche so you can bet germans will get served too, and not just that bank that was revealed already. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Funyarinpa Posted April 4, 2016 Share Posted April 4, 2016 18 minutes ago, Down said: The newspaper originally contacted by the leaker was the Süddeutsche so you can bet germans will get served too Am I supposed to take away that Süddeutsche is an objective newspaper from this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Down Posted April 4, 2016 Share Posted April 4, 2016 9 minutes ago, Funyarinpa said: Am I supposed to take away that Süddeutsche is an objective newspaper from this Objective journalism doesn't exist. But you can bet that if the Süddeutsche was contacted first, there were germans involved in the leaks too. And there's hardly better for a newspaper than a scandal about the politicians of its country to make sells... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pual Posted April 4, 2016 Share Posted April 4, 2016 8 hours ago, Funyarinpa said: Please be Erdoğan, please be Erdoğan, please be Erdoğan If this is not fake someone managed to get hold of database with 49,611,709 Turkish citizens info. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Funyarinpa Posted April 4, 2016 Share Posted April 4, 2016 8 minutes ago, pual said: If this is not fake someone managed to get hold of database with 49,611,709 Turkish citizens info. Oh shit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanahtlig Posted April 4, 2016 Share Posted April 4, 2016 12 hours ago, Down said: Governments have been pretending to fight against tax fraud and evasion and not actually doing anything for ages but with such an avalanche of evidence we can hope for some concrete action. I wonder if wikileaks will release the whole raw documents. Even criminals have a right to private life but people have already pointed out the disturbingly low amount of people from some countries - very few americans, and the most put-forward leaks are people like Putin, Saudi Arabian dudes, or western people that were already known to be huge fraudsters. Of course the investigation is far from over and covers only one of many offshore counsellor companies so it could be a coincidence, but who knows. Corruption is generally assumed to be lower in Western nations. That's supposed to be one of the primary features of Western democracy. I don't think the evidence necessarily points to favoritism. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suzu Fanatic Posted April 5, 2016 Share Posted April 5, 2016 Wouldn't be surprised if it was one of many cells - it'll collapse under the public eye, and the other cells will take over. Pure speculation, but it would be the logical way to run something like that - you don't run that kind of racket all in one spot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverLi Posted April 5, 2016 Share Posted April 5, 2016 Wishful thinking is that this could succeed and actually do some difference. I saw on the news ten of thousands protesting in Iceland against the prime minister (I think it was) which was part of this scandal. Sadly that would never happen in my country if our prime minister was caught. That's a cultural thing I guess. But I am a person who would gladly see official people's head roll. But to be honest. I don't think this is going to affect anything. Corruption would always exist and if you remove one way to use it a new one appears. It is like trying to stop hackers. The hackers are always one step ahead of you. This just confirms what everyone knew just as Nosebleed said. Some people is going to resign or act stupid to save their ass. But this wont change anything. Some investigations and perhaps one or two misguiding/misleading laws which can be interpret however you like is my guess of action. This is also depending on the individual country's course of action. This is a gigantic problem and I doubt it could be solved or even remotely mapped before the criminals find another way. Sadly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Down Posted April 6, 2016 Share Posted April 6, 2016 Here's a list of japanese companies that were involved in the Panama Papers. Among stuff that relates to otakus, Sunrise and Bandai. Also big well-known names like Softbank, Uniqlo, JAL, Honda... Also it seems like the lack of Americans in the Panama Papers is partly due to the fact that the US has its own corporate tax heaven with Delaware, which has more companies incorporated than actual inhabitants... I didn't know that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nosebleed Posted April 7, 2016 Share Posted April 7, 2016 13 hours ago, Down said: Also it seems like the lack of Americans in the Panama Papers is partly due to the fact that the US has its own corporate tax heaven with Delaware, which has more companies incorporated than actual inhabitants... I didn't know that. Interesting, i didn't kow that was the reason either. However, links to over 1000 US companies are starting to pop up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OriginalRen Posted April 7, 2016 Share Posted April 7, 2016 15 hours ago, Down said: Here's a list of japanese companies that were involved in the Panama Papers. Among stuff that relates to otakus, Sunrise and Bandai. Also big well-known names like Softbank, Uniqlo, JAL, Honda... Also it seems like the lack of Americans in the Panama Papers is partly due to the fact that the US has its own corporate tax heaven with Delaware, which has more companies incorporated than actual inhabitants... I didn't know that. With how much money Love Live earns Sunrise, it doesn't surprise me one bit that they would avoid taxes with a haven. Expected. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Down Posted April 7, 2016 Share Posted April 7, 2016 9 hours ago, Nosebleed said: However, links to over 1000 US companies are starting to pop up. Yeah, and it seems like there are actually more Americans than we were led to believe at first. It's simply that they're "anonymous" by the definition that the investigating journalists gave themselves, i.e. they're not in a position of political power right now in america... Which doesn't mean they're not, say, a very close acquaintance of a politician, or someone who funded the primaries campaign of another, etc... Criticism of the consortia that organized the panama papers investigations are popping up here and there and I hope someone will release the raw documents now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Okarin Posted April 13, 2016 Share Posted April 13, 2016 On 7/4/2016 at 2:20 PM, OriginalRen said: With how much money Love Live earns Sunrise, it doesn't surprise me one bit that they would avoid taxes with a haven. Expected. Sadly never going back to the City Hunter/Escaflowne/Cowboy Bebop glory. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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