Vorathiel Posted January 27, 2016 Share Posted January 27, 2016 How much longer is second Kara? They're in different tiers on vndb (30-50, opposed to 10-30). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChaosRaven Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 3 hours ago, Vorathiel said: How much longer is second Kara? They're in different tiers on vndb (30-50, opposed to 10-30). In a review I read it was estimated to be about 2 - 3 times longer. While 3 times longer sounds a bit too much for me, 2 times could be. To be accurate we'd have to know the script sizes of both VN's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vorathiel Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 9 hours ago, ChaosRaven said: In a review I read it was estimated to be about 2 - 3 times longer. While 3 times longer sounds a bit too much for me, 2 times could be. To be accurate we'd have to know the script sizes of both VN's. I found this:http://tlwiki.org/index.php?title=VN/Eroge_Script_sizes Cartagra - 19k lines, 0.8MB Kara1 - 29k, 1MB Kara 2 - 38k, 1.5MB. Although I don't know how much reliable this site is. ChaosRaven 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Decay Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 Those numbers seem fairly small when compared to other games of similar script file size. But those three use the same game engine and should be more or less useful in comparing those three games' size. What I'm saying is that I'll buy KnS2 being 50% larger than the first, that feels about right to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChaosRaven Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 8 hours ago, Vorathiel said: I found this:http://tlwiki.org/index.php?title=VN/Eroge_Script_sizes Cartagra - 19k lines, 0.8MB Kara1 - 29k, 1MB Kara 2 - 38k, 1.5MB. Although I don't know how much reliable this site is. Yes, about 50% bigger sounds accurate. Great site by the way, I didn't know TLWiki had such a long list of script sizes for visual novels. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scorp Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 23 hours ago, ChaosRaven said: While Kara no Shoujo 1 certainly had it's flaws, I've no idea in what way its brilliant web of madness with all its connected murderers and master minds should be inferior to Kara no Shojo 2's... (Heavy spoiler!!!) Well, I agree in the part about the culprit/s in KnS2 - it was really lame. But everything else is superior - music, voice (Reiji have a voice!), GFX are just amazing and the pace of the game is much better - in KnS1 it was really forced in last game part, was really so unnatural (means the probabilities, like murderer 100% will take any random person and this would be person you spoke with just 15 minutes ago) so I stopped believing in that. KnS2 is muuuch better in that aspect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChaosRaven Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 29 minutes ago, Scorp said: Well, I agree in the part about the culprit/s in KnS2 - it was really lame. But everything else is superior - music, voice (Reiji have a voice!), GFX are just amazing and the pace of the game is much better - in KnS1 it was really forced in last game part, was really so unnatural (means the probabilities, like murderer 100% will take any random person and this would be person you spoke with just 15 minutes ago) so I stopped believing in that. KnS2 is muuuch better in that aspect. Yeah, KnS got a bit too gory for its own good towards the end, even if it somehow at least did fit to the whole madness theme. But the final resolutions were still great. Production values in KnS2 were pretty good, no dout about that, but I found the final story arc in KnS2 around Yukiko's 'soul consuming' much harder to believe. Actually, I don't even consider it reality anymore, it's already fantasy. And everyone being related to each other at the end like in a big soap opera wasn't particular believable either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scorp Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 10 minutes ago, ChaosRaven said: Yeah, KnS got a bit too gory for its own good towards the end, even if it somehow at least did fit to the whole madness theme. But the final resolutions were still great. Production values in KnS2 were pretty good, no dout about that, but I found the final story arc in KnS2 around Yukiko's 'soul consuming' much harder to believe. Actually, I don't even consider it reality anymore, it's already fantasy. And everyone being related to each other at the end like in a big soap opera wasn't particular believable either. I mean not gory, but the non-reasonable events. Whole second part of KnS1 is the tapestry of one ridiculous murder of school girls after another. And no one sees anyone - that's just great. In KnS2 most of people are from same village, so why not. Also in KnS1 is same - everyone related to everyone in same soap opera manner, so I assume it is trademark of the series - bollywood madness ChaosRaven 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vorathiel Posted January 31, 2016 Share Posted January 31, 2016 On 1/28/2016 at 8:55 PM, Scorp said: Well, I agree in the part about the culprit/s in KnS2 - it was really lame. But everything else is superior - music, voice (Reiji have a voice!), GFX are just amazing and the pace of the game is much better - in KnS1 it was really forced in last game part, was really so unnatural (means the probabilities, like murderer 100% will take any random person and this would be person you spoke with just 15 minutes ago) so I stopped believing in that. KnS2 is muuuch better in that aspect. I just started and after 30 minutes of KnS2 I am like 'AAAAARGHHHHH, why is this SOOO GOOD?!' Backgroungs, CGs, voices, music, BACKGROUNDS, amosphere, winter, BACKGROUNDS! What a piece of ART! I hope story delivers.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eclipsed Posted January 31, 2016 Share Posted January 31, 2016 ^If you're able to enjoy KnS2 30 minutes in, you should be golden. A decent amount of peeps felt the 5 hour SoL village segment was just a teeny weeny bit too draggy feeling, but after that 'twill be smoooooth sailing.... to the ends of the earth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InvertMouse Posted February 1, 2016 Author Share Posted February 1, 2016 Thanks for the new responses! I am a total pansy for saying this, but I have to admit, some of the investigations from the first game really freaked me out .......... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
douggle Posted February 1, 2016 Share Posted February 1, 2016 The Village parts were good in their own way because it served as introduction to the overall theme of 2 and a lot of the major players in the story. Though the true ending... just god fucking damn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vorathiel Posted February 1, 2016 Share Posted February 1, 2016 50 minutes ago, douggle said: Though the true ending... just god fucking damn. This could be both positive and negative reaction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
douggle Posted February 1, 2016 Share Posted February 1, 2016 Just now, Vorathiel said: This could be both positive and negative reaction. Its a bit of both. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vorathiel Posted February 7, 2016 Share Posted February 7, 2016 On 2/1/2016 at 3:03 PM, douggle said: Its a bit of both. Now I get it. God damn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silvz Posted February 7, 2016 Share Posted February 7, 2016 (edited) Spoiler Yukiko's personality consuming is not something literal, I guess. She is mad, she has psychological issues, and although it doesn not occur like she stealing someone's personality, SHE, as a sick person, starts mimicking the others personality. It is just that, a sickness. Since she loves so much who she kills, she simply start acting like the other person, believing that she is them. It is the same as people who have two or more personalities Edited February 8, 2016 by Down spoilers ffs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vorathiel Posted February 7, 2016 Share Posted February 7, 2016 Yup, that's what I understood. And I really liked that idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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