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awww how cute, another innocent fellow fell victim to dustmania...
just to be clear, this title is anything but good, where its creators tried to conceal a non existant plot with bland & utmost generic ero-content which totally fails to deliver.
seriously, if you want to read & fap to sth. good guro-wise, than you´re better off reading kowaku no toki, or try out maggot baits if the former consists of too much story in your case.

edit: had no idea those, who´re fond of guro, are supposed to be viewed as unethical, or disgustful creatures, worthy of immediately getting burned to ashes holy inquisition-wise. talk about beeing openminded.... :/

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awww how cute, another innocent fellow fell victim to dustmania...
just to be clear, this title is anything but good, where its creators tried to conceal a non existant plot with bland & utmost generic ero-content which totally fails to deliver.
seriously, if you want to read & fap to sth. good guro-wise, than you´re better off reading kowaku no toki, or try out maggot baits if the former consists of too much story in your case.

edit: had no idea those, who´re fond of guro, are supposed to be viewed as unethical, or disgustful creatures, worthy of immediately getting burned to ashes holy inquisition-wise. talk about beeing openminded.... :/

I think certain individuals here shouldnt be too openmouthed about viewing other peoples fetishes as unethical

*cough* lolicons *cough*

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Like, I'm just wondering what's going on in the head of a person to enjoy something like this .......only this. 

And most people look at us funny that we masturbate to 2D anime characters. I can respect any fetish as long as it doesn't involve killing an actual person in real life. 

hey atleast we masturbate to 2D anime character with complete limb and perfectly alive, not to mention doing it with the right 'hole'. but this... ? this is sick, eye socket ? brain ? neck ? dismembered corpse ?

isn't this kind of sexual interaction illegal ?

also, just wondering is this game actually allowed to be published. sure it's just drawing but it's still human being that's been drawn.

 

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Like, I'm just wondering what's going on in the head of a person to enjoy something like this .......only this. 

And most people look at us funny that we masturbate to 2D anime characters. I can respect any fetish as long as it doesn't involve killing an actual person in real life. 

hey atleast we masturbate to 2D anime character with complete limb and perfectly alive, not to mention doing it with the right 'hole'. but this... ? this is sick, eye socket ? brain ? neck ? dismembered corpse ?

isn't this kind of sexual interaction illegal ?

also, just wondering is this game actually allowed to be published. sure it's just drawing but it's still human being that's been drawn.

they're also most likely underage ;)

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isn't this kind of sexual interaction illegal ?

also, just wondering is this game actually allowed to be published. sure it's just drawing but it's still human being that's been drawn.

 

holy crap, of course fucking someone, whilst chopping his/her limbs off, is illegal, BUT this is considered fucking fiction & as long as i know its up to everyone himself if he gets off of pink romantic intercourse, or piss & shit, or titty-lacking lolis, or raping donkeys, or getting your waifu banged by a group of homeless ones, or in this case even cute chicks beeing forced to give autofelatio to their own innards. seriously you dont have to read stuff like that, neither try understanding its related fetish, but dont just demonise people doing so. please.

edit. in some countries such content may be forbidden, but so is often its (seemingly) harmless pendant.

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Like, I'm just wondering what's going on in the head of a person to enjoy something like this .......only this. 

And most people look at us funny that we masturbate to 2D anime characters. I can respect any fetish as long as it doesn't involve killing an actual person in real life. 

hey atleast we masturbate to 2D anime character with complete limb and perfectly alive, not to mention doing it with the right 'hole'. but this... ? this is sick, eye socket ? brain ? neck ? dismembered corpse ?

isn't this kind of sexual interaction illegal ?

also, just wondering is this game actually allowed to be published. sure it's just drawing but it's still human being that's been drawn.

 

Are you proposing masturbation should be illegal now? :yumiko: 

No really, the human mind is so fickle and our brain works in so many ways, that there's billion of subjects and objects that people masturbate to. And by the way you are responding, you seem to be someone who is still very young and hasn't explored his/her fetishes yet. As you grow older, you will be able to understand it more. You will be like, why the fuck is [insert ABSOLUTELY ANYTHING here] making me wet/giving me an erection?

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I'd be a hypocrite (correction, I AM a hypocrite, sue me :P ) to say anything too negative about this one - as I have my own tastes (praise Suzu! :bow:) that people might dislike. But all i'll say is nope - added this one to my blacklist. Consensual sexytime is one thing - even if it's controversial (ie incest, etc) But portrayals of sexual violence - be it rape, or worse - is disgusting to me on a personal level - and I cannot fathom why people would ever like to witness another being harmed.

 

But to each their own, as long as they don't try that shit in real life :makina:

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I'd be a hypocrite to say anything too negative about this one - as I have my own tastes (praise Suzu! :bow:) that people might dislike. But all i'll say is nope - added this one to my blacklist. Sexytime is one thing - even if it's controversial (ie incest, etc) But portrayals of sexual violence - be it rape, or worse - is disgusting to me on a personal level - and I cannot fathom why people would ever like it.

aaand you just contradicted yourself.

What was the purpose of posting if you're gonna say that you cant be negative about it and then do the exact same after?

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I'd be a hypocrite to say anything too negative about this one - as I have my own tastes (praise Suzu! :bow:) that people might dislike. But all i'll say is nope - added this one to my blacklist. Sexytime is one thing - even if it's controversial (ie incest, etc) But portrayals of sexual violence - be it rape, or worse - is disgusting to me on a personal level - and I cannot fathom why people would ever like it.

aaand you just contradicted yourself.

What was the purpose of posting if you're gonna say that you cant be negative about it and then do the exact same after?

lol, it's a bad habit of mine, I can't ever keep my mouth shut even if I know better :P

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what's the big deal?is a freaking game nothing more nothing else, if you dont enjoy to see someone fucking a head inside the stomach of another girl then dont watch/read it(by the way the head is alive xD), I read this novel and didnt bother me at all now if I come across to something like this in real life I will call the police, and probably seek a psychiatrist for the PTSD of watching something like that, but then again I understand the difference between REALITY and FICTION.
You are not hurting anyone by reading things like this so why should anyone tell you that is wrong? if you are in a vn forum trying to appeal morality then this is the wrong place for that for sure, vns are based on taboo themes or what society in general consider wrong, one of the first novels if not the first one was based on this novel (https://vndb.org/v9545) for god's sake..

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im sorry, maybe it's true that im not mature enough to understand sexual fetishes.

but does getting turned on by dismembered corpse and raping someone in the eye socket after beheading her head, not to mention cutting his skull open to fuck his brain considered normal ?

 

sorry but for me its just so wrong. i can still tolerate necrophilia as long as its perfectly fine corpse but this..

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im sorry, maybe it's true that im not mature enough to understand sexual fetishes.

but does getting turned on by dismembered corpse and raping someone in the eye socket after beheading her head, not to mention cutting his skull open to fuck his brain considered normal ?

 

sorry but for me its just so wrong. i can still tolerate necrophilia as long as its perfectly fine corpse but this..

When it comes to fetishes, the word "normal" shouldn't even exist.... That's the whole beauty of fetishism: There is absolutely no right or wrong about it. 

You are the master of your own sexual desire. Don't let anyone tell you what's proper on what to get turned on or not. It differs from person to person and the possibilities of fetishes are astronomical. 

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one of the first novels if not the first one was based on this novel (https://vndb.org/v9545) for god's sake..

Uhm, not really ^^
https://vndb.org/v9545 is not based on Nabokov's novel in any way. This VN is a just a product of the "lolita boom" which was prevalent in Japanese entertainment in the 80s.

The lolita boom, despite what one may think when he hears that name, isn't exactly based on Nabokov's novel, either. Japanese obsession with little girls comes from a pseudo-psychological book written by Russell Trainer named "Lolita Complex" where he tries to explain in a pseudo-scientific way (he wasn't actually a scholar) why little girls are obsessed with older men.
When Lolita Complex was translated into Japanese, it was quite popular with the middle-aged men there. They probably liked the idea of little nymphs who are into them. The first mangaka to draw a "Lolita" was also inspired by Trainer's book and his "Lolita" manga was a big success with the audience and the beginning of that what's now called the lolita boom.

You see, the term "Lolicon" derived from "Lolita Complex", Trainer's book, and not from Nabokov's novel. Many people nowadays also think that it means "older men who are attracted to little girls", but that's not true either! It actually describes not the men but the girls and means "little girls who are attracted to older men". Thus the "Lolita"-character isn't just any little girl, it's implied that she is a nymphet, Humbert Humbert's term for these "special" little girls. Those little succubi who target older men with their adolescent innocence, just like Humbert himself was targeted and bewitched by his Lolita (although many moralfags probably think of this interpretation as victim blaming, haha).
If you look at the cover of this VN, you will also see one of these little devils! Just look at her expression, she's probably confused by her budding sexuality and how she's getting wet under that innocent little-girl dress when she's fantasizing about mature middle-aged men! ...at least that's what Japanese otaku in the 80s thought.

What most people are classifying as "pedophiles" nowadays are in many cases not actual genuine pedophiles. I think most otaku who are labeled as "Lolicons" (which is a misnomer as I explained before, but we will just go with it now) are not attracted by the appearance of little girls per se (which is the definition of a genuine pedophile) but by their innocence. The artificial attraction to little girls is in many cases a result of social awkwardness, especially with normal(-aged) women. Which is probably true for most otakus, haha.
Little girls don't judge you, they don't care how you look or how much money you earn. All there is to make them happy is to spend some time with them and play with them. It's truly the ideal relationship for many otakus. I'm pretty sure that's why otakus are so fascinated by Lolis and that's also the reason why in the 80s they very much liked the idea, that little girls are actually interested in them and not only the other way around.

Alice Soft games are a good example for the lolita boom, they are full with Lolita-characters. (At least in the 80s and 90s they were.) Elf's games are full with nymphets, too.
That said, you shouldn't confuse a "Lolita"-character with the "Loli"-character today. Just like the term Lolicon changed its meaning, a "Loli" nowadays is entirely different from its 80s counterpart. Though it would probably go to far to explain that, too. I actually just wanted show why so many old eroge are "Lolita"-focused and where the term, how the Japanese use it, really comes from.

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im sorry, maybe it's true that im not mature enough to understand sexual fetishes.

but does getting turned on by dismembered corpse and raping someone in the eye socket after beheading her head, not to mention cutting his skull open to fuck his brain considered normal ?

 

sorry but for me its just so wrong. i can still tolerate necrophilia as long as its perfectly fine corpse but this..

When it comes to fetishes, the word "normal" shouldn't even exist.... That's the whole beauty of fetishism: There is absolutely no right or wrong about it. 

You are the master of your own sexual desire. Don't let anyone tell you what's proper on what to get turned on or not. It differs from person to person and the possibilities of fetishes are astronomical. 

i know, it's up to you to get turned on by something like this.

i'm just afraid that this kind of stuff will happen IRL. jacking of to an image is not enough sometimes. the person definitely want to experience it for real. we dont know what will happen if a horny psychopath (which i think the only people who has this kind of fetish) want to fulfill his sexual desire. we all know that sexual desire is hard to control.

shit can happen sometimes. and killing and mutilating people for sexual interest is just pure insanity.

also i really dont want people to go around and saying "it's fine, it's okay, it's not wrong for you to have this kind fetish". i think that will only encourage him to do it IRL.

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in that case you´d have to also ban every other title focusing on sexual content, which is viewed illegal in real-life, if there´s even the slightest possibility of what feels like 0,00001% of its buyership getting encouraged to try it out for real. see, its pointless...

edit. like it, or not, but such things do already happen in reality and i´m pretty sure that most of those, who participated in sexual acts, such as the ones described above, have never ever read, btw. heard of the term dark eroge before.

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im sorry, maybe it's true that im not mature enough to understand sexual fetishes.

but does getting turned on by dismembered corpse and raping someone in the eye socket after beheading her head, not to mention cutting his skull open to fuck his brain considered normal ?

 

sorry but for me its just so wrong. i can still tolerate necrophilia as long as its perfectly fine corpse but this..

When it comes to fetishes, the word "normal" shouldn't even exist.... That's the whole beauty of fetishism: There is absolutely no right or wrong about it. 

You are the master of your own sexual desire. Don't let anyone tell you what's proper on what to get turned on or not. It differs from person to person and the possibilities of fetishes are astronomical. 

i know, it's up to you to get turned on by something like this.

i'm just afraid that this kind of stuff will happen IRL. jacking of to an image is not enough sometimes. the person definitely want to experience it for real. we dont know what will happen if a horny psychopath (which i think the only people who has this kind of fetish) want to fulfill his sexual desire. we all know that sexual desire is hard to control.

shit can happen sometimes. and killing and mutilating people for sexual interest is just pure insanity.

also i really dont want people to go around and saying "it's fine, it's okay, it's not wrong for you to have this kind fetish". i think that will only encourage him to do it IRL.

Same point I made before with loli visual novels or first person shooter games. There is no direct evidence they turn you into pedophiles or mass murderers in real life.

Heck, if you are so scared of things that might happen IRL, how could you wake up every single day and not be so scared that someone might just point a gun to your head and blow your brains out as what has been happening with the world lately with terrorism?

Also this fetish isn't limited to horny psychopaths. Necrophiliacs or hematomaniacs might find this vn a good object of their sexual desire. Those people aren't digging graves at midnight to fuck corpses or cut themselves with a surgeon's knife. They usually use other mediums such as images or low budget specific fetish porn films. These people aren't abnormal or insane. These people simply embraced what they desire the most and are honest with themselves unlike these other fools who only criticize others and pull a gender/racist/insanity card for things they don't agree on.

This is what's so fucked up with the world right now. The freedom of speech and expression is constantly being challenged by people who alienate and criticize you for being different and don't cater to what they deem as "normal" in society. 

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also i really dont want people to go around and saying "it's fine, it's okay, it's not wrong for you to have this kind fetish". i think that will only encourage him to do it IRL.

I take issue with this line of thought.  I have a brother x sister incest fetish (consensual, close ages only, no little kids), and I, in no way, want to bang any of my relatives.  The very thought of it disgusts me.  I find brother x sister incest in porn hot, but that doesn't carry over into real life.  Most normal people are able to separate real life from various forms of entertainment, be it video games, movies, TV shows or books, and it's really only the mentally disturbed people that can't do so.  I don't really believe that the rest of us normal people should be denied something just because the few unhinged people will get set off by it, regardless of what I think about it.  For example, the game Hatred could be claimed to motivate, encourage and "train" mass shooters, and one could use that line of thought to say that it should be banned.  Even though I think it's an utter piece of shit that isn't even worth paying for, or even the time it takes to pirate it, I still think people should be able to buy it if they want to.  The people that would get set off by it would likely get set off by something else that hasn't been banned yet.  A Serbian Film (please, for the love of God, don't google this) exists and you can buy it, so unless you blanket ban everything similar to it, there's no point in banning something like Dustmania.

That said, Dustmania looks disgusting as hell and I have absolutely no interest in it.  I even find it to be a little ridiculous, to be honest.  I mean, heads living on after being separated from their bodies, for decent amounts of time?  Humans aren't reverse cockroaches.  The thing is, I just won't read it.  I don't need to go on a moral crusade over it.  Doing that will just give it more attention, anyway.

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I have a brother x sister incest fetish (consensual, close ages only, no little kids), and I, in no way, want to bang any of my relatives.  The very thought of it disgusts me.

Lucky. I'm disgusted by all forms of incest regardless, so I couldn't enjoy any of the many, many incest shenanigans that's been going on in the VNs I've been reading lately ._.

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Regarding Dustmania, jeebus. I know we're all try'na be happy non-judgmental about people's fetishes along with the whole separating fiction from reality, but I do question the 4 peeps that rated this a 10 :illya:


 

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Lucky. I'm disgusted by all forms of incest regardless, so I couldn't enjoy any of the many, many incest shenanigans that's been going on in the VNs I've been reading lately ._.

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Regarding Dustmania, jeebus. I know we're all try'na be happy non-judgmental about people's fetishes along with the whole separating fiction from reality, but I do question the 4 peeps that rated this a 10 :illya:

What VNs are you reading?  Imouto Paradise?  :sachi:  [/jk]

Oh, believe me, I definitely think that it's crap.  The CGs alone give me that impression quite well, and it being a nukige doesn't exactly dispel that thought.  There's always a few people that rate anything on VNDB a 10.  Hell, Monster Girl Quest has 134 10 votes, and even if the story is as good as people that like it tell me it is, I really can't imagine it being a 10/10 VN.

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Lucky. I'm disgusted by all forms of incest regardless, so I couldn't enjoy any of the many, many incest shenanigans that's been going on in the VNs I've been reading lately ._.

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Regarding Dustmania, jeebus. I know we're all try'na be happy non-judgmental about people's fetishes along with the whole separating fiction from reality, but I do question the 4 peeps that rated this a 10 :illya:

What VNs are you reading?  Imouto Paradise?  :sachi:  [/jk]

Oh, believe me, I definitely think that it's crap.  The CGs alone give me that impression quite well, and it being a nukige doesn't exactly dispel that thought.  There's always a few people that rate anything on VNDB a 10.  Hell, Monster Girl Quest has 134 10 votes, and even if the story is as good as people that like it tell me it is, I really can't imagine it being a 10/10 VN.

Ratings are subjective. You will never know how good a vn is just from that. Some of my favorite NTR games had average ratings but imo they are a 8-10 rating material because they satisfy my fetishes more than enough. It's better to read reviews but the best judge of vns is playing them yourself.

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