Non-Virgin heroines.

[MikeY91]

I'll ask again: Do you really want to see that? Who wants to read and fap to an H-scene, that goes "Oups, sorry but I came" within seven sentences and ends with the girl locking herself in bath for an hour, while the guy tries to find his socks in the bedroom?

ummm Honestly yes, for me watching such unrealistic H-scenes only makes me laugh, which is why most of the time i skip them. i do understand your point though and i know this is what most fans want which is why vns make them that way.

Edit: also i rarely fap to H-scenes so thats not a problem for me.

Edited November 10, 2015 by MikeY91

[Tyrael]

I don't like it. A lot of them act like porn stars in H scenes even though they are supposed to have no experience, makes no sense. Also, virgin sex is supposed to be romantic but sloppy and probably not very visually attractive. It also tends to be rather painful for a lot of girls so there's that too. I think it won't go anywhere though, since I believe it represents the 'perfect romance' (aka marrying your first love/highschool sweetheart etc...). 

This !

hahaha they always act like porn stars ! even the protagonist (who is also a virgin), somehow they manage to have the best sexual experience as if they both have been doing it for years, in reality the first sex would be awkward/embarrassing and most likely the guy will 'finish' before even they start the intercourse lol but in vns the dude lasts for 30 mins

Or in Yamato's case in Majikoi, the infamous, triple bazooka attack. 

I believe he's more of a machine gun, since he can fire 30+ rounds after each other

[TexasDice]

 Many have at least one "Good End".

You surely know more than I do, so I digress. 

 

Also, could we please shove this stuff into a seperate thread in the recommendation forum? This thread was supposed to bait someone be about pure and innocent maidens and their first hardcore adventures.

 

[CeruleanGamer]

 Many have at least one "Good End".

You surely know more than I do, so I digress. 

 

Also, could we please shove this stuff into a seperate thread in the recommendation forum? This thread was supposed to bait someone be about pure and innocent maidens and their first hardcore adventures

 

Sorry, wherever, NTR lurks, the Witch (me) will always be there. Muahahaha kekekekeke!  

[Zenophilious]

No.  No more NTR discussion   If anyone else posts about NTR in this thread, I'll splice it into a new NTR discussion or recommendation thread.

EDIT: You made me do it.  NTR recommendation thread here.  Make an NTR discussion thread if you're interested in solely talking about NTR  >.<

Edited November 10, 2015 by Zenophilious

[CeruleanGamer]

Back to virgin talks, anyone play otomeges? From what I noticed the guys tend to be more experiencedd than the girl and usually take the lead.

[Stormwolf]

While i agree with the sheer stupidity of the inexperienced pornstar vigrin, the cause of the virgin heroines is quite obvious. It's to make you feel like this girl is yours, and yours alone. I'm sure most men would if possible prefer their girlfriends to have been untouched by other men, i know i would. 

[Tyr]

Back to virgin talks, anyone play otomeges? From what I noticed the guys tend to be more experiencedd than the girl and usually take the lead.

Of course they are. That's what women want.

[CeruleanGamer]

While i agree with the sheer stupidity of the inexperienced pornstar vigrin, the cause of the virgin heroines is quite obvious. It's to make you feel like this girl is yours, and yours alone. I'm sure most men would if possible prefer their girlfriends to have been untouched by other men, i know i would. 

There are some who prefer experience over mere virginity/purity. If you cant even put a condom right or have no idea about a woman's menstruation cycles, no girl is ever gonna sleep with you. You cant just say "Hey baby let's have sex", and expect the girl to say Yes every time...

Although it's common sense that you never mention anything about your past sex life from your ex/past relationships with your current significant other.

Back to virgin talks, anyone play otomeges? From what I noticed the guys tend to be more experiencedd than the girl and usually take the lead.

Of course they are. That's what women want.

Not necessarily. Some women could be into taking the lead too like me. :)

Edited November 10, 2015 by CeruleanGamer

[Stormwolf]

I guess i forgot to include this in my previous post, but you're only inexperienced for so long. Hardly matters if it doesn't go too well the first times.

[Tyr]

Not necessarily. Some women could be into taking the lead too. 

And some men are into dating 3DPDs. Both are not the kind of people reading Visual Novels ^^

Also, even women who like to take the initiative usually are only in the lead until the man finally puts her into submission with his almighty D and shows her her place where she belongs... at least that's what eroge taught me! Are you an exception? D:

[CeruleanGamer]

Not necessarily. Some women could be into taking the lead too. 

And some men are into dating 3DPDs. Both are not the kind of people reading Visual Novels ^^

Also, even women who like to take the initiative usually are only in the lead until the man finally puts her into submission with his almighty D and shows her her place where she belongs... at least that's what eroge taught me! Are you an exception? D:

Somewhat sexist view of it but I guess I do see it on most vns. Women arent exactly put on a pedestal in vns and are usually on the receiving end. This is why femdom element is great whenever it's present. It's sometimes refreshing when the man "gets it" especially when he's getting pegged or roughened up a bit.

Edited November 10, 2015 by CeruleanGamer

[Stormwolf]

Not put on a pedestal? Perhaps not during sexual encoutners, but girls sure are treated like princesses overall, especially by protag. 

[CeruleanGamer]

Not put on a pedestal? Perhaps not during sexual encoutners, but girls sure are treated like princesses overall, especially by protag. 

Really? I thought it's more common to see guys being rough with the girl than the other way around..... At least many vns thats not your typical moege.

On the first sex scenes, maybe... the guy usually asks if it hurrs or not but after that or the next time they have sex, the guy tends to be more forceful and liberal when it comes to sex.

Edited November 10, 2015 by CeruleanGamer

[Tyr]

Not necessarily. Some women could be into taking the lead too. 

And some men are into dating 3DPDs. Both are not the kind of people reading Visual Novels ^^

Also, even women who like to take the initiative usually are only in the lead until the man finally puts her into submission with his almighty D and shows her her place where she belongs... at least that's what eroge taught me! Are you an exception? D:

Somewhat sexist view of it but I guess I do see it on some vns. Women arent exactly put on a pedestal in vns and usually on the receiving end. This is why femdom element is great whenever it's present.

Honestly though, I do believe that usually men are more the giver type and women are more the receiver... and I don't mean it in any sexist way, more as an universally truth. Maybe it's a genetic thing or the psychological difference between the gender. Obviously there are exceptions, like always, but in my experience even a somewhat dominant woman likes to be taken. And even when I, for example, have nothing against femdom, in the end I like be the taker.

And this is pretty much reflected throughout all the entertainment mediums, obviously VNs too. There are otomege with a strong lead, but that's pretty much the exception. Just look at western erotic novels for women, nearly every book has a masochistic female lead and sadistic men who wants to make her his woman.

[CeruleanGamer]

it's common across all cultures irl too so I understand women's standing in society in general, not just their vn roles. I dont exactly consider myself a feminist like Anita Sarkeesian where she points out that every right of a man, a woman must have too. In fact women not having certain rights/capabilities is actually good for us. Imagine women doing mine work or the military consisting of more than 50% women. It's not gonna work well... We arent built for those kinds of professions, and men just do it way better....

Although one thing I noticed that women are somewhat slowly taking in charge of and doing better at it: being breadwinners and making the man stay at home to do chores and take care of the kid.

Edited November 10, 2015 by CeruleanGamer

[VirginSmasher]

Hello everyone, i was working on a project, i can't tell you much about it, but it's called Amadeus, but wait until it's show to the world, you'll find it amazing.

 

Well, i have some free time, so i decided to talk about visual novels, especially Heroines, in 99% of VNs, the heroines are ALL virgin, even if some of them have unnatural libido, so, what do you think about that? do heroines ALWAYS have to be virgin? voice your opinion.

It's always good to have a heroine with sexual experience, but I think it's more satisfactory to have heroines that are virgins even if when sex happens, they always know exactly what to do.

[Scorp]

I am quite disturbed by the amount of blood they every time bleed. It seems authors never ever saw a virgin (or that's just a trend?) as normally there is or no blood at all, or 2-3 blood drops. But in VN it is like girl hold there a 200ml blood package  So absolutely unbelieveable. And such "first case" scenes tend to last and last for SO long, that this is going beyond ridiculous.

That's why my fav h-scenes are in old games. Girls are rarely virgins there, the length (I mean accompanying sluuuuurps etc.) is rather small, comparing to currents ones, and they give you perfect idea, how all happened, no need to describe every single stroke  

[kooolm]

Well, VNs are a form of entertainment, so realism is usually neglected. And that's not necessarily a bad thing.

[Narcosis]

A lot of these scenario writers either never even had a girlfriend to start with, or outright refuse to get involved in 3d relationships. What else do you expect?

[CeruleanGamer]

A lot of these scenario writers either never even had a girlfriend to start with, or outright refuse to get involved in 3d relationships. What else do you expect?

Quite ironic as well because there is also a significant amount of female story/scenario writers. You would expect they would be able to tell a girl's experience/perspective in sex scenes much more thoroughly..... but unfortunately almost all of them fail at this..... badly. 

P.S. Yes, I watch the goddamn credits every time I finish a visual novel... to see if I recognize any names. lol

Edited November 10, 2015 by CeruleanGamer

[CeruleanGamer]

I am quite disturbed by the amount of blood they every time bleed. It seems authors never ever saw a virgin (or that's just a trend?) as normally there is or no blood at all, or 2-3 blood drops. But in VN it is like girl hold there a 200ml blood package  So absolutely unbelieveable. And such "first case" scenes tend to last and last for SO long, that this is going beyond ridiculous.

That's why my fav h-scenes are in old games. Girls are rarely virgins there, the length (I mean accompanying sluuuuurps etc.) is rather small, comparing to currents ones, and they give you perfect idea, how all happened, no need to describe every single stroke  

Copy pasting my reply on this from another thread:

Yeah these vn heroines are wimps and crybabies. Losing your virginity is like a freaking bug bite if not like a injection shot at most if there is proper foreplay or lubrication. If the girl is using a tampon or inserted a vibrator in their vagina before, they have a heads up with sex penetration and somewhat adjust/recreate the angle on where they should feel good. 

Also, the hymen breaking is rather off the charts in vns too. It's not suppose to look like a period for gods sakes... I think most of this is just ignorance of the human anatomy... Not sure if more guys are h-scenes scenario writers but if you're a woman, you should not get this wrong at all!!! The only time it's really painful is if the guy forces it on you without foreplay or you're not relaxed while doing it (aka you're very stressed or being raped).  

- CeruleanGamer on female anatomy. =P

 

 

Edited November 10, 2015 by CeruleanGamer

[Scorp]

 Copy pasting my reply on this from another thread:

Ehm, answer on what? You just told same thing I told. Where is the answer?  And did I really asked something?

[CeruleanGamer]

 Copy pasting my reply on this from another thread:

Ehm, answer on what? You just told same thing I told. Where is the answer?  

More info on virginity from a female's perspective. 

[Scorp]

More info on virginity from a female's perspective. 

Well, thanks, just, ehm... Seems your explanations were delayed for 20 years (or more, I do not remember precisely the year)

What I still do not understand, is why they persistently draw all these disturbing decalitres of blood glistening on the joystick... Another fun case, I saw a novel time ago (dun remember the title), where first heroine had her time with vibrator, and after protag have sex with her. And she was bleeding with usual ridiculous amount of blood.  Realism!