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Crying. All of the damn crying that girls in VNs do. Its fucking stupid, annoying, and not enjoyable because it sounds like they are being beaten to hell and back from taking a dick

I guess it's supposed to turn on some people, but remains completely superfluous and inauthentic. People do various things during sex; Yes - they cry, but usually from joy (not because it's painful), laugh or stay calm and quiet. But for the love of gods, that kind of crying described in most vn's doesn't really happen; there are other, more important things people are usually occupied with than the pain (which lasts very shortly anyway)... unless the girl's forced to have sex, which would be completely justified, since it's more or less rape :makina:

いいいいいいいやあああああ!ダメダメダメー!ここじゃダメー!

Oh, the joys of japanese quality writing.

What if the male protagonist cries?

What if no one cries? :holo:

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I'm still pretty new to VNs but I'll give the more general things that turn me off to things (which extends to VNs). he first is anything that is just depressing. I mean something that's main appeal is being depressing. I don't mind if something is sad but at a certain point I no longer want to engage with it. Life is sad enough in my opinion, I don't need to seek out depression as entertainment. (If you can still call it that)

One of the others is huge tits. I like my anime women to look like they could actually exist in real life. Large are fine, but about the size of Momoyo from Majikoi or Amane from Grisaia is about the biggest I'm interested in.

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as for i, a novel should by no means consist of the following:
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illogical plot and other obviously inconsistencies
chracters displaying inconsequent behaviour, or acting against their personality for no reason

These are two primary turnoffs for me.  I categorize these under the common label "deficiencies that detract from a self-consistent setting".  My preferences tend to emphasize setting and premise over other factors.  Appealing characters are important, but too many VNs and anime are filled with uninspired cookie-cutter tropes.  Those that aspire to world building (like Eushully's Ikusa Megami series) tend to be a tier above the rest. 

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Anytime where a character or the story gets warped because of fetishes or some other contrived reason.

Stuff that is too cookie-cutter. Most anime tropes when applied directly: tsundere, yandere, etc. It's like a waste of text, stop talking.

Huge tits/skin tight uniforms. E.g. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LCFULDkc9fc (the OP is very pretty otherwise). Not my type of fan service, that's all.

 

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Crying. All of the damn crying that girls in VNs do. Its fucking stupid, annoying, and not enjoyable because it sounds like they are being beaten to hell and back from taking a dick

I guess it's supposed to turn on some people, but remains completely superfluous and inauthentic. People do various things during sex; Yes - they cry, but usually from joy (not because it's painful), laugh or stay calm and quiet. But for the love of gods, that kind of crying described in most vn's doesn't really happen; there are other, more important things people are usually occupied with than the pain (which lasts very shortly anyway)... unless the girl's forced to have sex, which would be completely justified, since it's more or less rape :makina:

いいいいいいいやあああああ!ダメダメダメー!ここじゃダメー!

Oh, the joys of japanese quality writing.

What if the male protagonist cries?

What if no one cries? :holo:

Yeah these vn heroines are wimps and crybabies. Losing your virginity is like a freaking bug bite if not like a injection shot at most if there is proper foreplay or lubrication. If the girl is using a tampon or inserted a vibrator in their vagina before, they have a heads up with sex penetration and somewhat adjust/recreate the angle on where they should feel good. 

Also, the hymen breaking is rather off the charts in vns too. It's not suppose to look like a period for gods sakes... I think most of this is just ignorance of the human anatomy... Not sure if more guys are h-scenes scenario writers but if you're a woman, you should not get this wrong at all!!! The only time it's really painful is if the guy forces it on you without foreplay or you're not relaxed while doing it (aka you're very stressed or being raped).  

- CeruleanGamer on female anatomy. =P

 

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Crying. All of the damn crying that girls in VNs do. Its fucking stupid, annoying, and not enjoyable because it sounds like they are being beaten to hell and back from taking a dick

I guess it's supposed to turn on some people, but remains completely superfluous and inauthentic. People do various things during sex; Yes - they cry, but usually from joy (not because it's painful), laugh or stay calm and quiet. But for the love of gods, that kind of crying described in most vn's doesn't really happen; there are other, more important things people are usually occupied with than the pain (which lasts very shortly anyway)... unless the girl's forced to have sex, which would be completely justified, since it's more or less rape :makina:

いいいいいいいやあああああ!ダメダメダメー!ここじゃダメー!

Oh, the joys of japanese quality writing.

What if the male protagonist cries?

What if no one cries? :holo:

Yeah these vn heroines are wimps and crybabies. Losing your virginity is like a freaking bug bite if not like a injection shot at most if there is proper foreplay or lubrication. If the girl is using a tampon or inserted a vibrator in their vagina before, they have a heads up with sex penetration and somewhat adjust/recreate the angle on where they should feel good. 

Also, the hymen breaking is rather off the charts in vns too. It's not suppose to look like a period for gods sakes... I think most of this is just ignorance of the human anatomy... Not sure if more guys are h-scenes scenario writers but if you're a woman, you should not get this wrong at all!!! The only time it's really painful is if the guy forces it on you without foreplay or you're not relaxed while doing it (aka you're very stressed or being raped).  

- CeruleanGamer on female anatomy. =P

 

Crying. All of the damn crying that girls in VNs do. Its fucking stupid, annoying, and not enjoyable because it sounds like they are being beaten to hell and back from taking a dick

I guess it's supposed to turn on some people, but remains completely superfluous and inauthentic. People do various things during sex; Yes - they cry, but usually from joy (not because it's painful), laugh or stay calm and quiet. But for the love of gods, that kind of crying described in most vn's doesn't really happen; there are other, more important things people are usually occupied with than the pain (which lasts very shortly anyway)... unless the girl's forced to have sex, which would be completely justified, since it's more or less rape :makina:

いいいいいいいやあああああ!ダメダメダメー!ここじゃダメー!

Oh, the joys of japanese quality writing.

What if the male protagonist cries?

What if no one cries? :holo:

Yeah these vn heroines are wimps and crybabies. Losing your virginity is like a freaking bug bite if not like a injection shot at most if there is proper foreplay or lubrication. If the girl is using a tampon or inserted a vibrator in their vagina before, they have a heads up with sex penetration and somewhat adjust/recreate the angle on where they should feel good. 

Also, the hymen breaking is rather off the charts in vns too. It's not suppose to look like a period for gods sakes... I think most of this is just ignorance of the human anatomy... Not sure if more guys are h-scenes scenario writers but if you're a woman, you should not get this wrong at all!!! The only time it's really painful is if the guy forces it on you without foreplay or you're not relaxed while doing it (aka you're very stressed or being raped).  

- CeruleanGamer on female anatomy. =P

 

Thanks for the info! That's quite enlightening indeed. 

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Crying. All of the damn crying that girls in VNs do. Its fucking stupid, annoying, and not enjoyable because it sounds like they are being beaten to hell and back from taking a dick

I guess it's supposed to turn on some people, but remains completely superfluous and inauthentic. People do various things during sex; Yes - they cry, but usually from joy (not because it's painful), laugh or stay calm and quiet. But for the love of gods, that kind of crying described in most vn's doesn't really happen; there are other, more important things people are usually occupied with than the pain (which lasts very shortly anyway)... unless the girl's forced to have sex, which would be completely justified, since it's more or less rape :makina:

いいいいいいいやあああああ!ダメダメダメー!ここじゃダメー!

Oh, the joys of japanese quality writing.

What if the male protagonist cries?

What if no one cries? :holo:

Yeah these vn heroines are wimps and crybabies. Losing your virginity is like a freaking bug bite if not like a injection shot at most if there is proper foreplay or lubrication. If the girl is using a tampon or inserted a vibrator in their vagina before, they have a heads up with sex penetration and somewhat adjust/recreate the angle on where they should feel good. 

Also, the hymen breaking is rather off the charts in vns too. It's not suppose to look like a period for gods sakes... I think most of this is just ignorance of the human anatomy... Not sure if more guys are h-scenes scenario writers but if you're a woman, you should not get this wrong at all!!! The only time it's really painful is if the guy forces it on you without foreplay or you're not relaxed while doing it (aka you're very stressed or being raped).  

- CeruleanGamer on female anatomy. =P

 

 

 

 

Emm, what part of h scenes aren't exaggerated?

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A Nice guy type Hetare protagonist

I mean good god in a medium where you can be literally anything , why this useless good for nothing guy where his only redeeming quality is nice become so popular i have no idea.

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This thread seems confused. Are we talking about things that are turn offs sexually or just stuff we do not generally like in VNs? It seems to be the former but some of these posts confuse me. Not that it matters much I guess.

Personally there are too many to count. To my huge shame I think I'm a bit of a prude. But of all of them, guro and NTR especially have me running to the hills. I can deal with other stuff if the rest of the story is good enough, but not them.

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 Also, the hymen breaking is rather off the charts in vns too. It's not suppose to look like a period for gods sakes... I think most of this is just ignorance of the human anatomy... Not sure if more guys are h-scenes scenario writers but if you're a woman, you should not get this wrong at all!!! The only time it's really painful is if the guy forces it on you without foreplay or you're not relaxed while doing it (aka you're very stressed or being raped).  

- CeruleanGamer on female anatomy. =P

 

Y-You mean to tell me your bedsheets don't actually look like bloody warzones when you lose your virginity?
Blasphemy! 2D could never possibly be wrong!

This also applies to male anatomy, no human being in existence has that much semen stored up. They make it look like a broken water pump. Not to mention no human being can shoot said semen so many times so quickly, even 2 times in a row is already dodgy.

I wouldn't say these crazy unrealistic scenarios are a huge turn off since I'm already so used to them, but it can get pretty ridiculous to where I'm just questioning why.

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 Also, the hymen breaking is rather off the charts in vns too. It's not suppose to look like a period for gods sakes... I think most of this is just ignorance of the human anatomy... Not sure if more guys are h-scenes scenario writers but if you're a woman, you should not get this wrong at all!!! The only time it's really painful is if the guy forces it on you without foreplay or you're not relaxed while doing it (aka you're very stressed or being raped).  

- CeruleanGamer on female anatomy. =P

 

Y-You mean to tell me your bedsheets don't actually look like bloody warzones when you lose your virginity?

Blasphemy! 2D could never possibly be wrong!

Well it could if you are doing it very, very wrong:P

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 Also, the hymen breaking is rather off the charts in vns too. It's not suppose to look like a period for gods sakes... I think most of this is just ignorance of the human anatomy... Not sure if more guys are h-scenes scenario writers but if you're a woman, you should not get this wrong at all!!! The only time it's really painful is if the guy forces it on you without foreplay or you're not relaxed while doing it (aka you're very stressed or being raped).  

- CeruleanGamer on female anatomy. =P

 

Y-You mean to tell me your bedsheets don't actually look like bloody warzones when you lose your virginity?
Blasphemy! 2D could never possibly be wrong!

This also applies to male anatomy, no human being in existence has that much semen stored up. They make it look like a broken water pump. Not to mention no human being can shoot said semen so many times so quickly, even 2 times in a row is already dodgy.

You would be lucky to even find a noticeable spot on your bed. Some girls don't even bleed at all. Usually the blood just sticks on the guy's manhood and is easily cleaned with a tissue. Yeah this virginity blood is something that VNs exaggerated horribly. 

Oh my god, that semen release issue is something I should add on my list too. A guy being able to cum 5 times in a row without a minute of of rest may look like a stud (or one heck of a premature ejaculator) but I've never seen that happen irl. I love Majikoi and all but this is what makes go, "What!?" when Yamato comes 3-6 times in a row in a single H-scene. I don't think there's an H-scene across all games where he cums less than 3 times. Let me know when you find it. :wahaha: 

 

This thread seems confused. Are we talking about things that are turn offs sexually or just stuff we do not generally like in VNs? It seems to be the former but some of these posts confuse me. Not that it matters much I guess.

Personally there are too many to count. To my huge shame I think I'm a bit of a prude. But of all of them, guro and NTR especially have me running to the hills. I can deal with other stuff if the rest of the story is good enough, but not them.

Kinda both. I mean for example if you absolutely hate NTR and rape, you won't be turn on sexually right? Or is this one of those "you may be saying you hate it, but your body is honest" type of scenario cliche. Man, I've heard that freaking line at least 50 times now in many forced/rape/NTR vns. :michiru: 

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This thread seems confused. Are we talking about things that are turn offs sexually or just stuff we do not generally like in VNs? It seems to be the former but some of these posts confuse me. Not that it matters much I guess.

Personally there are too many to count. To my huge shame I think I'm a bit of a prude. But of all of them, guro and NTR especially have me running to the hills. I can deal with other stuff if the rest of the story is good enough, but not them.

Kinda both. I mean for example if you absolutely hate NTR and rape, you won't be turn on sexually right? Or is this one of those "you may be saying you hate it, but your body is honest" type of scenario cliche. Man, I've heard that freaking line at least 50 times now in many forced/rape/NTR vns. :michiru: 

I was talking more about people mentioning open endings and plotholes which I have hard time thinking about in a sexual manner to begin with. Though I suppose it's all about how they implement it :P

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My "major" turn-offs are probably rape, guro (cannibalism included...and tht's why I can't read Saya no Uta) and scat (I think Euphoria will be a big problem for me).

And I can't stand unrealistic, oversized breasts :wafuu:

Oh my god, that semen release issue is something I should add on my list too. A guy being able to cum 5 times in a row without a minute of of rest may look like a stud (or one heck of a premature ejaculator) but I've never seen that happen irl. I love Majikoi and all but this is what makes go, "What!?" when Yamato comes 3-6 times in a row in a single H-scene. I don't think there's an H-scene across all games where he cums less than 3 times[...] :wahaha: 

So true. I'll never get used to it.

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 Also, the hymen breaking is rather off the charts in vns too. It's not suppose to look like a period for gods sakes... I think most of this is just ignorance of the human anatomy... Not sure if more guys are h-scenes scenario writers but if you're a woman, you should not get this wrong at all!!! The only time it's really painful is if the guy forces it on you without foreplay or you're not relaxed while doing it (aka you're very stressed or being raped).  

- CeruleanGamer on female anatomy. =P

 

Y-You mean to tell me your bedsheets don't actually look like bloody warzones when you lose your virginity?
Blasphemy! 2D could never possibly be wrong!

This also applies to male anatomy, no human being in existence has that much semen stored up. They make it look like a broken water pump. Not to mention no human being can shoot said semen so many times so quickly, even 2 times in a row is already dodgy.

You would be lucky to even find a noticeable spot on your bed. Some girls don't even bleed at all. Usually the blood just sticks on the guy's manhood and is easily cleaned with a tissue. Yeah this virginity blood is something that VNs exaggerated horribly. 

Oh my god, that semen release issue is something I should add on my list too. A guy being able to cum 5 times in a row without a minute of of rest may look like a stud (or one heck of a premature ejaculator) but I've never seen that happen irl. I love Majikoi and all but this is what makes go, "What!?" when Yamato comes 3-6 times in a row in a single H-scene. I don't think there's an H-scene across all games where he cums less than 3 times. Let me know when you find it. :wahaha: 

Not a turn-off though for me. Why should my 2D porn be realistic lol

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 Also, the hymen breaking is rather off the charts in vns too. It's not suppose to look like a period for gods sakes... I think most of this is just ignorance of the human anatomy... Not sure if more guys are h-scenes scenario writers but if you're a woman, you should not get this wrong at all!!! The only time it's really painful is if the guy forces it on you without foreplay or you're not relaxed while doing it (aka you're very stressed or being raped).  

- CeruleanGamer on female anatomy. =P

 

Y-You mean to tell me your bedsheets don't actually look like bloody warzones when you lose your virginity?
Blasphemy! 2D could never possibly be wrong!

This also applies to male anatomy, no human being in existence has that much semen stored up. They make it look like a broken water pump. Not to mention no human being can shoot said semen so many times so quickly, even 2 times in a row is already dodgy.

You would be lucky to even find a noticeable spot on your bed. Some girls don't even bleed at all. Usually the blood just sticks on the guy's manhood and is easily cleaned with a tissue. Yeah this virginity blood is something that VNs exaggerated horribly. 

Oh my god, that semen release issue is something I should add on my list too. A guy being able to cum 5 times in a row without a minute of of rest may look like a stud (or one heck of a premature ejaculator) but I've never seen that happen irl. I love Majikoi and all but this is what makes go, "What!?" when Yamato comes 3-6 times in a row in a single H-scene. I don't think there's an H-scene across all games where he cums less than 3 times. Let me know when you find it. :wahaha: 

Not a turn-off though for me. Why should my 2D porn be realistic lol

Porn is meant to cater to fantasy, so I understand the being able to cum a bajillion times in a row for the guy (twice is about the best I can do when making the beast with two backs so to speak), so it not being realistic isnt a huge deal to me. I just dont get the crying, and screaming. 

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