CeruleanGamer Posted September 20, 2015 Share Posted September 20, 2015 I just finished Saya no Uta and I was surprised there were no satisfying, happily ever after ending. Were there anything else like this? I love very deep and emotional VNs where I am captivated by the reading and not whether "male protag is gonna score big with a certain girl tonight" setting. So are there other visual novels like this where there's no GOOD endings? I overloaded myself with plenty of vanilla VN latelly and I just want something new and refreshing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kawasumi Posted September 20, 2015 Share Posted September 20, 2015 the term you are looking after are so called "utsuges". This genre is specifically designed to make you cry and not in the classic nakige style of "okay this is bad right now, but dont worry, you know its gonna have a happy ending!". But in the style of "no, this is not happening and now the story is ending and my heart cant take it, fuck." I havent actually read a lot of utsuges recently even though I love stuff that doesnt have a "happy end", but what im seeing is that not a lot of them are translated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deep Blue Posted September 20, 2015 Share Posted September 20, 2015 what you are looking for is this https://vndb.org/g1112?fil=tagspoil-0.tag_inc-1112;m=0;o=d;s=rating utsuges vns can have good or bad endings. For example narcissu, yes it is sad but not because it is sad it means that the ending was bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kawasumi Posted September 20, 2015 Share Posted September 20, 2015 what you are looking for is this https://vndb.org/g1112?fil=tagspoil-0.tag_inc-1112;m=0;o=d;s=rating utsuges vns can have good or bad endings. For example narcissu, yes it is sad but not because it is sad it means that the ending was bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XReaper Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 you could try "Anonymous" from mirage, should be somehow befitting your request, as it has ONLY bad endings and can be quite good, depending on your preferences. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Satsuki Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 what you are looking for is this https://vndb.org/g1112?fil=tagspoil-0.tag_inc-1112;m=0;o=d;s=rating utsuges vns can have good or bad endings. For example narcissu, yes it is sad but not because it is sad it means that the ending was bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solidbatman Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 Little Busters oxczen, CeruleanGamer, Silvz and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Eclipsed Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 I just finished Saya no Uta and I was surprised there were no satisfying, happily ever after ending. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deep Blue Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 the problem with this is that 95% of the vns that comes up are nukiges Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CeruleanGamer Posted September 21, 2015 Author Share Posted September 21, 2015 Side comment, which ending in Saya no Uta was the 'worst' for you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firecat Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 there's a developer that i follow who does these kinds of endings (an expert in that field too). every game he ever made has always make people question themselves and the character. http://armorgames.com/user/scriptwelder Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiquidShu Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 I can't really recall a happy ending in Swan Song. It's the VN of the month as well for the Fuwa VN Club so worth checking out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deep Blue Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 swan song has a happy ending "the true ending" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiquidShu Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 swan song has a happy ending "the true ending" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deep Blue Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 I don't remember, mind refreshing me? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiquidShu Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 the second time you play the novel you can chose a way to save tanomura, so he doesnt get ambushed by takuma in the church (where he blows his head with the shotgun) and he imprisoned him, after that the sun comes out again and I don't rmember if it was hibari or yuka that start planting sunflawers all over the land, nobody dies and they all live happy after that, takuma still in prison but he doesnt want to scape or anything, a pretty cheesy ending but it's the true ending of the novel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clephas Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 Even in most utsuge, there is usually at least one 'normal' ending, though most avoid good endings... and there are generally two types of utsuge. There are the 'cathartic despair' ones and the 'endlessly depressing' ones... Saya is closer to the latter type, whereas Konakana and Eden* are the former. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deep Blue Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 muv luv alt is utsuge and the ending is really shitty I mean happy, same with ef, eden*, swan song, cross channel (without reading tower of friends) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CeruleanGamer Posted September 21, 2015 Author Share Posted September 21, 2015 Even in most utsuge, there is usually at least one 'normal' ending, though most avoid good endings... and there are generally two types of utsuge. There are the 'cathartic despair' ones and the 'endlessly depressing' ones... Saya is closer to the latter type, whereas Konakana and Eden* are the former. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeteN00b Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 'Yandere'? Nvm, good luck finding one, and PM me if you get a good one :^D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diamon Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 I guess you can try Remember11? There are shitloads of bad endings in it (impossible to not reach one without a walkthrough), and you actually need to read those bad ends to understand the true end, and this true end in itself is... Very disturbing to be honest. Though, Remember11 is much more story-driven, and kinda leaves aside character development to concentrate on the mystery. Still a good read though, especially if you wanted to take a break from romance centered VNs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Funyarinpa Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 there's a developer that i follow who does these kinds of endings (an expert in that field too). every game he ever made has always make people question themselves and the character. http://armorgames.com/user/scriptwelder Oh shit, someone else knows that guy! I should get around to finishing the Deep Sleep project sometime. I guess you can try Remember11? There are shitloads of bad endings in it (impossible to not reach one without a walkthrough), and you actually need to read those bad ends to understand the true end, and this true end in itself is... Very disturbing to be honest. Though, Remember11 is much more story-driven, and kinda leaves aside character development to concentrate on the mystery. Still a good read though, especially if you wanted to take a break from romance centered VNs. NOT TO MENTION THAT A THIRD FUCKING ROUTE WAS CUT OFF DUE TO BUDGET CONSTRAINTS WHICH LED TO AN ENDING BAD IN MORE THAN ONE WAYS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CeruleanGamer Posted September 21, 2015 Author Share Posted September 21, 2015 I guess you can try Remember11? There are shitloads of bad endings in it (impossible to not reach one without a walkthrough), and you actually need to read those bad ends to understand the true end, and this true end in itself is... Very disturbing to be honest. Though, Remember11 is much more story-driven, and kinda leaves aside character development to concentrate on the mystery. Still a good read though, especially if you wanted to take a break from romance centered VNs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diamon Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 Ooo, it's on PS2, so I just need to find one to work with my emulator. I see it has a 100% translation patch which is great. I'll get on this tonight. Thanks for the recommendation. Pretty sure there is a PC version, and that you don't need an emulator^^ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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