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I forgot to update y'all on Moro's route! :pyaa:

Fortunately, I still remember everything~

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This route was fine! Of course it wasn't as developed as the heroine's, but the struggles Moro goes through hit close to home. I never worked in any game but those confidence and self-worth issues... BOY, do I know them. Maybe that's why I liked this route so much. Right now, I do have my close friends who help me see I'm also worth of happiness and that they like me for who I am, but I did understand where Moro was coming from. The only thing that felt a bit meh was the rushed resolution: he just accepted it and got better way too quickly. Then again, this is a sub route and is (sadly) not as developed as the main ones.:footsip:

And now, time for Gakuto's! :watame:

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Muv Luv Alternative

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It's been a bit of a mixed experience so far. I'm at the rebellion part of Alternative, but atm i must say i enjoyed Unlimited more. I dunno why. Takeru was in this unfamiliar place with these people he knew and had to work his was up. It was very enjoyable to see familiar struggles in a military setting. I can relate. Alternative is decently written with a few minor holes. Like how he didn't retain his age after going back in time but retained his muscles........... That one was pretty stupid i think. Now In Alternative Takeru started very strong, but.... It feels he's being slowly reduced to a plot device. He rarely has anything worthwhile to say and when he does say something it doesn't amount to much. Mostly he rambles about humanity needing to stick together regardless whats being discussed......  Wasn't this half the point? That with his prior experience in Ultimate he'll now be a few steps above and being able to make changes? This focus just vanished and it felt like we were back to the Unlimited dynamic again where Takeru just follows the girls whims or witnesses things without really having anything worthwhile to say or do. This is a mistake. If Takeru's supposed to be a leader then he needs to be both impressive, having a flexible mind and have the girls (subordinates) respect. Outside the good old VN dynamics of forced plotlove etc he doesn't really seem respected nor very mentally flexible at this point in time.  He is strong and capable though. Also change those god damned suits for the girls already. Rest of the female cast have painted breastplates, why would our cast have everything on full display? Absolute idiocy. Yes, this part right there is something i pretty much hate about Unlimited and Alternative. Less serious reason: my girls are not fap material for the guys on the base. More serious reason: It's unrealistic and makes such a serious and epic story that much more hard to take seriously. Think about when the girls argued seriously with their tits on display... Yeah....

As far as i can tell, this is a different Takeru than you played in Extra. It's the same of course, but more a copy. Self explanatory i think since there can be multiple Takeru's in the same place. Why? Well, it seems like the Extra world moves ahead at a normal pace without player Takeru in it.. Meaning? It has another Takeru in it.  Now i'm probably just in the beginning still in Alternative, but that's just an early impression. Things might change later on! But as of now regardless of what happens in Ultimate you can probably treat Extra endings as canon endings also. Now i might have to swallow these words later :D

I do expect this to change though, but i did hope Alternative kept the pace up a bit better than this after all the hype.

This probably looks like i dislike it, but far from it. It's highly enjoyable.  But like all things in life, it's easier to discuss or put words on negatives than positives as positives are taken for granted and forgotten unless it's extraordinarily good, but negatives tend to linger and grate.

 

 

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[Majikoi]

Aaaand I just finished Shouichi/Capt's route! :nyanpasu:

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Man, I really like his childish nature~ It's really refreshing to see a guy who isn't horny on main, ESPECIALLY in Majikoi lol

My sadistic side was expecting to see Capt more distraught by that conversation with Hideo but oh well! I really liked the ideia of drawing that panoramic map, it was lovely :abilove: It felt a little dragged at times but it wasn't a bad time.

 

So far, the one I enjoyed the most is Moro's (amongst the sub routes I've played so far - which are the bros') tho.

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Well, next ones are Chika, Mayo and Kojima-sensei!  :ezgif-2-df452814b3f1: LET'S GOOOOO--!

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Ok, i just read that infamous scene in Muv Luv Alternate.

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And yeahhhh... That was Muv Luv NTR rape special. How do i know? well the vn doesn't seem to have anything vanilla and it totally wasn't needed. Like at all. Protecting Takerou and the fact that he was eaten by the beta and she reduced to a brain after mind probing and torture by being kept alive when her bodyparts were stripped away would have totally been sufficient for the drama of pushing him away to get him out of harms way in that current segment of the story. Not that they particularly needed any of this drama in the first place. Otherwise the fact that they put too much emphasis on fetishizing it. Like nipple insertion, tentacles, pee/poo draining(?) exhibition (well, she said she'd like it), thrusting her own hips, forgetting all about Takerou.. all these standard faire rape turned to pleasure things. Japanese people are truly fucked in the head, sorry to say. This stuff is all too common in japanese media.  But that's not all. All this was said in a way to make takerou (for the benefit of the reader) feel as terrible as possible by detailing everything to the smallest detail. What happens afterwards? Takerou is not even shocked, he just moves past it... See? they just wanted to insert such a scene for no good reason. NO CHANCE would Takerou not be shocked entirely speechless. he's not very emotionally stable yet in this story and was shown that of what he calls his second half. His love since he was a kid, but didn't really seem to care much. He'd be utterly speechless and conflicted and she'd likely have to leave due to his silence in shock until he could figure out how to deal with it and get past it over time before he could reearn her trust. But not if it's a scene put there simply for some other reason, because then he's suddenly the most robotic human ever. Yes, every single person on this planet would have been shocked into silence after seeing their loved one in such a situation. Unless they're a psycopath of course.

Beta doesn't see humans as lifeforms, yet instead of brutal murder by animalistic monsters they suddenly want to to figure out how to pleasure them. as best as they can.. Jesus christ And no, i'm fairly desensitized to NTR at this point so it doesn't matter much, but i call bullshit when i see it.

It is sad that they shat on the main heroine in such a serious and good visual novel though. I'm sure it was a major risk for them, so why not go a more...... What's to be expected type of scenario. And that is figuring out how the brain and nerveous system works quite obviously by probing their brains, not fucking them raw for however long xD

If i were a betting man this was a scene shoehorned into the VN pretty late in the development by some weird ass boss.

Oops. guess there was a normal h scene too. Was told there wasn't really. Pretty weird

 

 

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I've heard many people say that that particular scene is so traumatizing and horrible, but it honestly didn't have nearly that big an impact on me. Is it a lot worse in the 18+ version of the game? Back when I read the VN, the 18+ patch didn't exist yet (it wasn't released until almost a year after the game), so all I know is the censored version.
"That other scene" earlier in the VN affected me to a much greater degree, to the point where it actually triggered a panic attack. (I assume that's the kind of effect they were hoping for when they wrote it.) MLA is the only piece of media ever that has managed to do that to me.

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3 hours ago, Seraphim said:

I've heard many people say that that particular scene is so traumatizing and horrible, but it honestly didn't have nearly that big an impact on me. Is it a lot worse in the 18+ version of the game? Back when I read the VN, the 18+ patch didn't exist yet (it wasn't released until almost a year after the game), so all I know is the censored version.
"That other scene" earlier in the VN affected me to a much greater degree, to the point where it actually triggered a panic attack. (I assume that's the kind of effect they were hoping for when they wrote it.) MLA is the only piece of media ever that has managed to do that to me.

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I bet you're talking about their teacher when her head is crushed. Hmm, i was shocked to be sure as it was a huge not so nice surprise... and had a long stare at it for a few mins to collect my thoughts. At the end i found it a bit of a forced shock factor. I was sad of course since i love that character, but her death felt a bit forced so the impact wasn't big. I still miss her :(

 

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Yeah, that's the one.

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She's one of my favorite characters, and that definitely served to increase the impact that scene had on me. As horrible as it was though, I actually feel like it added depth to the game in the way that it makes the player potentially suffer some PTSD symptoms themselves just as Takeru did. It somehow made it more realistic and relatable, despite all the ridiculous stuff going on in the story.

 

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9 hours ago, Seraphim said:

I've heard many people say that that particular scene is so traumatizing and horrible, but it honestly didn't have nearly that big an impact on me. Is it a lot worse in the 18+ version of the game? Back when I read the VN, the 18+ patch didn't exist yet (it wasn't released until almost a year after the game), so all I know is the censored version.
"That other scene" earlier in the VN affected me to a much greater degree, to the point where it actually triggered a panic attack. (I assume that's the kind of effect they were hoping for when they wrote it.) MLA is the only piece of media ever that has managed to do that to me.

The best way to know is by looking at the CG I guess

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What did you see in the censored version? The scene was pretty harsh and brutal so I cannot imagine what they displayed instead

 

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What did you see in the censored version? The scene was pretty harsh and brutal so I cannot imagine what they displayed instead

 

I honestly don't even remember any specific details. I guess that in itself is proof that it impacted me far less than that other scene, which I can clearly recall to this day despite the fact that this happened several years ago.
I've been intending to reread MLA at some point, and I'll make sure to use the 18+ patch this time around to see what it's like then.

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Poor Takerou. All this crap he's been trough and no one respects him one bit. This scene stuck out. Meya was pleading in her stoic way for the imperial robot she was gifted by her sister the shogun. Takerou tried speakig up to help her but Meya silenced him immediately. Right after Chizuru starts doing the same, but Meya let's her speak. Not to mention that he has a phoney rank which no one cares about (even disrespects him during combat) and no scene after he received it has given us the "he sure ranked up" feeling im sure many wished to see. If he never received the rank then no one would notice a difference. 

So come on Takerou, grow a spine. It's a downwards spiral once women starts disrespecting you

 

 

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Finished World End Syndrome a few moments ago. I'm a big mystery fan, but I ruined the experience for myself here to some extent by unintentionally spoiling myself.
 

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See, the thing is that I have this habit of, in games with nameless protagonists (such as Persona), look up if there's a canon name for him or her. As such, I googled "<game title> protagonist name" as I usually do and was immediately met by the name "Sora Otonashi". The game had a limit of 6 letters per name though, so I settled for "Sora Otona" instead.
Unfortunately, I soon realized, basically right at the start of the game, that this name was in fact a huge spoiler, as I was introduced to a certain "Yukino Otonashi". It didn't take a lot of brain power to deduce that this was most likely the supposedly dead sister of the protagonist. Suffice to say, this made the whole reveal at the end of the game quite anticlimactic.
Not only that, but the game apparently wasn't expecting anyone to name the protagonist "Sora" from the getgo, because there was a bunch of dialogue towards the end about how "Sora's" name was "Sora", not "Sora". This made it all seem more like some sort of comedy skit rather than the serious scene it was supposed to be, and the same goes for the grand reveal of Sora's name itself.

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Yeah.


Anyway, despite this and the cliffhanger-ish ending, I found the VN quite enjoyable as a whole, and I'm looking forward to see what they do with the sequel.

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Alright, next week is Agave time! :ezgif-2-df452814b3f1: Anyways, this week I finished reading the female sub routes.

Chika (5/10)

I've never had a big opinion abt her; she always seemed a bit superficial and fakey for me. In some routes, she can be a handful, too...

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Ok, this was pretty weak. Sure, it was kinda sweet (pun intended) and all, but it was very mid, compared to the others... Even Kojima's was better! I guess Chika is just so plain and superficial compared to the other heroines that it ends up being rather underwhelming. I thought the part in which she would tell him how to be and how to dress would create more drama but it seems it didn't, huh.

Mayo (5/10)

My feelings for her are the same ones I have for Chika: meh. She wasn't very interesting and her only feature was being a loli.

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Oh, and she has a poor family. I don't really mind that, but they could have developed that a little more in her own route, ffs.

I feel like this was really not necessary. I know, I know: it was probably made to appeal to the lolicons buying this game, but seriously! They could have made a better job - but that would require a longer route.

 

Kojima-sensei (6/10)

I find her an interesting character, for sure. At first, I wasn't sure how she'd fit with Yamato, but her route was rather cute.

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Other than that cute parts, this route was pretty meh. I found her moments with Yamato pretty adorable and I really liked that side of her but I HATED how Yamato just raped her and there were no consequences... but I guess that's just old eroge logic. No, what I rly disliked was how prematurely the route ended. I understand if you don't want to focus so much on her because she isn't that important, but then why make a route for her in the first place? Just to see an h-scene and a "happy ending"? 'K then. I noticed this was pretty much the problem with all these sub routes, girls or not. I guess that's why they are called sub routes in the first place...

I'm so excited to read Agave!! Everyone says it's the best part of the entire vn, so I hope it does live up to my expectations! :yes:

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6 hours ago, Seraphim said:

Finished World End Syndrome a few moments ago. I'm a big mystery fan, but I ruined the experience for myself here to some extent by unintentionally spoiling myself.
 

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See, the thing is that I have this habit of, in games with nameless protagonists (such as Persona), look up if there's a canon name for him or her. As such, I googled "<game title> protagonist name" as I usually do and was immediately met by the name "Sora Otonashi". The game had a limit of 6 letters per name though, so I settled for "Sora Otona" instead.
Unfortunately, I soon realized, basically right at the start of the game, that this name was in fact a huge spoiler, as I was introduced to a certain "Yukino Otonashi". It didn't take a lot of brain power to deduce that this was most likely the supposedly dead sister of the protagonist. Suffice to say, this made the whole reveal at the end of the game quite anticlimactic.
Not only that, but the game apparently wasn't expecting anyone to name the protagonist "Sora" from the getgo, because there was a bunch of dialogue towards the end about how "Sora's" name was "Sora", not "Sora". This made it all seem more like some sort of comedy skit rather than the serious scene it was supposed to be, and the same goes for the grand reveal of Sora's name itself.

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Yeah.


Anyway, despite this and the cliffhanger-ish ending, I found the VN quite enjoyable as a whole, and I'm looking forward to see what they do with the sequel.

Congratulations, you played yourself :P

But, jokes aside, I'm also looking forward to the sequel :)Luckily, for this VN I managed to go spoiler-free. BTW I think that weird character limit for protagonist's name is there because developers couldn't be bothered to properly adapt the system from the Japanese version for English release - in Japanese number of characters would be enough for almost any possible name, when writing in kanji.

BTW I have to ask - if I enjoyed this VN, would I be okay with Higurashi? (I'm almost 100% sure that Subahibi is a no-go for me, but Higurashi doesn't seem so fucked-up based on reviews)

 

  

4 hours ago, Fujoneko said:

Agave!! Everyone says it's the best part of the entire vn

Yes it is, no doubts about it :D

 

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6 hours ago, adamstan said:

BTW I think that weird character limit for protagonist's name is there because developers couldn't be bothered to properly adapt the system from the Japanese version for English release - in Japanese number of characters would be enough for almost any possible name, when writing in kanji.

Yeah, that's what I figured as well. It'd be pretty weird to implement such a limit otherwise, when most of the other characters have names that are longer than that.
 

6 hours ago, adamstan said:

if I enjoyed this VN, would I be okay with Higurashi?

Hard to say since I don't know quite how sensitive you are or what type of content affects you most. I found Higurashi a lot less disturbing than SubaHibi, but it's definitely a few shades darker and more impactful than World End Syndrome. In any case, I highly recommend you give it a try, because it's quite a ride if you're up for it! Just remember to grab the 07th-Mod.

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On 2/28/2021 at 8:33 AM, Seraphim said:

Hard to say since I don't know quite how sensitive you are or what type of content affects you most. I found Higurashi a lot less disturbing than SubaHibi, but it's definitely a few shades darker and more impactful than World End Syndrome.

Hmm... apart from fucked-up h-content, I guess I'm also not good with too depressing mindfuck stuff, like death games etc. (Those two combined rule out things like Euphoria ;)) To give an example - I know that it's rather mild (and I think a talked about it once here), but I got severely disturbed by watching "The Cube" in the highschool (I think I was 16 back then). Not because of the gory bits, but more because back then I found the overall message kind of depressing.

Mystery, violence etc are all fine, as long as it doesn't all spiral down into "All people are monsters, world is fucked-up beyond repair, no hope, no future, no love and it's best to die anyway" kind of stuff ;) Basically - no hard utsuge please.

It's just that after reading WES and finding out that I enjoyed its mystery part, I kind of started to warm-up to the idea of tackling Higurashi one day ;)

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Too bad you don't own a Switch, or you could've picked up that version for a measly ¥3960. It's, to my knowledge, the only release that includes the story in its (current) entirety ("all 19 console arcs, the drama cd arc, Hajisarashi-hen, plus the three Hou exclusive arcs", to quote VNDb). That's some serious bang for the buck.
(Dunno if you're at the point where you can read Japanese without a text hooker though, so maybe it wouldn't help you even if you had the console.)

EDIT: I just noticed that the Switch version was apparently later ported to PS4, so maybe that's an option for you.

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45 minutes ago, Seraphim said:

(Dunno if you're at the point where you can read Japanese without a text hooker though, so maybe it wouldn't help you even if you had the console.)

Sadly, most of console versions newer than PS3 are no good for me. I don't own any console (and I'm not ready to go without text hooking yet since I have to look up lot of words), so I have to rely on emulators. PS4 isn't emulated yet, so that version is out of question. As for Switch - there's an emu, and I managed to play World End Syndrome with it, but the performance was far from stellar, and I'm not sure how hook-friendly Switch emulation is ;)

But then maybe I should try my luck with PS3 version? It looks like I could get it (used) from amazon for ¥4400 (incl. shipping). Just have to check if it's hookable beforehand, since some VN engines are weird, and don't have separate memory area for textbox contents. In those cases, or when the game uses non-standard text encoding, hooking is impossible.

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9 minutes ago, Seraphim said:

I haven't actually gotten started on the console arcs myself yet, since I want to read them all in one go.

I'm not sure if I'm actually that interested in console arcs, since they apparently are just extensions made by different(?) writers. Also, given sheer length of the story, maybe I should stick to the english version? ;) I guess that finishing it in Japanese would take me something like half a year :P

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Muv luv alternative chronicles The Day After 3

Well, Age doesn't like their protagonists. Always the same crappy drama of the protagonist being a weak person and wasting a shitton of time on having us read the self-deprecating thoughts they have over, over, over and over again. It never ends. They say they're over it, they promise that they now have goals, but they end up spiraling back to this self-deprecating as if they suffer from dementia or something. First it was Takeru, now it's Hibiki. 

The story is interesting outside that of course, but at some point this crap is almost all we read. 

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10 hours ago, Seraphim said:

Reading the English Steam version is definitely a safer bet then. If you want to delve into the console arcs later, all you need to play them on PC is a copy of Chapter 4.

Yup. Also, I just found out that Steam version has both English and Japanese text included - so I'd probably will go indeed with Steam version + 07thMod. PS3 version is unfortunately unhookable. But I have to say that PS3 opening song kicks ass - so I'm really glad that 07thMod includes it too :)

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