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Sunrider: Liberation Day - Reads like mediocre fanfiction for a high school anime in a military sci-fi AU...except for the H-scenes, which are just plain terrible. The plot quickly becomes extremely ridiculous, especially in the DLC, and the characters aren't interesting enough to make up for that (read: most of the characters are anime stereotypes). Also, I managed to die twice in a row on one level despite playing on the easiest difficulty.

Mahou Show-Jo - A short (~40 minutes) kinetic novel about a retired magical girl. Cool pastel aesthetic, nice music (even if I still don't really understand vaporwave). The ending's pretty abrupt, but since this was a game jam game made in 2 weeks, I can forgive that. I'd love to see a longer, more complete game in this setting.

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A sky full of stars and have to vent :lol:

Not sure where to begin with this butchery of a moenovel release. Translation is fine but what else is left? Protagonist has a personality and is proactive, yet he's useless and almost doesnt do anything. Romance is more or less non existent in hikari's route for example. She's also so much into saya during her route that a genre shift to yuri wouldnt feel far off. Even saya herself says its too much. so there is more or less nothing left. I mean, who even cared about that project of theirs? It had a beautiful ending, but thats where my praise of the route begins and ends.

Saya was a bit too childish and nonsensical. Romance is there and acceptable this time around though. but this time hikari takes too much space in the route and same as hikaris route, makes for really rare situatioms where the protag is alone with the chosen heroine..It had some utterly ridiculous drama, but didnt pull the route to the gutter. Also had a great end. Not as good as hikari's end, but pretty great nonetheless.

Dont really care about the other two routes.

Would this vn be better if it wasnt butchered by moenovel? Probably, but i honestly dont know.

I have to mention that the music in this vn is great!

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2 hours ago, lunaterra said:

Sunrider: Liberation Day - Reads like mediocre fanfiction for a high school anime in a military sci-fi AU...except for the H-scenes, which are just plain terrible. The plot quickly becomes extremely ridiculous, especially in the DLC, and the characters aren't interesting enough to make up for that (read: most of the characters are anime stereotypes). Also, I managed to die twice in a row on one level despite playing on the easiest difficulty.

Mahou Show-Jo - A short (~40 minutes) kinetic novel about a retired magical girl. Cool pastel aesthetic, nice music (even if I still don't really understand vaporwave). The ending's pretty abrupt, but since this was a game jam game made in 2 weeks, I can forgive that. I'd love to see a longer, more complete game in this setting.

That second one sounds interesting! 

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It is! There's a lot of little details about the setting that make me wish it were longer so that it could go more into the magical girl culture. But as it is, I'm really impressed that it was only made in 2 weeks. It's definitely a unique little VN regardless.

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I'm keeping track of the VNs I've been reading for #HorrorGameOct (which will mostly be short, free games) on Twitter, but for the record:

  1. Tim's Birthday - VN/point-and-click hybrid, ~1 hour long, about a girl stuck in a time loop where her little brother is brutally murdered at 2:18 PM on his birthday. The main reason this took me an hour is because I missed something obvious in the P&C section. Has a kinda weird moral.
  2. The Doll and the Spider - Kinetic novel, ~15 minutes long, about a magical doll who needs to get inside to protect her little girl from the monsters of the witch's hour, and the pet tarantula who takes her there. The font's hard to read and the art isn't that great, but it has an unexpected ending.
  3. Painting Your Skin - Kinetic novel, ~20 minutes long, about a sleepover between best friends that gets crashed by monsters. The title of the game doesn't make sense until the very end.
  4. White Worm - Kinetic novel, ~15 minutes long, about a normal person with a very abnormal ailment. Creepy as hell, and pretty gross at points, but why didn't the protagonist even consider going to a doctor? The black-and-white-and-red coloring and the hand-drawn aesthetic add to the atmosphere.
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IMHHW is unreadable without patch, that's for sure. I also rated it higher than Miagete, but that was because side routes in Miagete (Orihime and Korona) were weak for me - but I loved Hikari's and Saya's.

And yeah, music is great in both VNs.

6 hours ago, Stormwolf said:

Would this vn be better if it wasnt butchered by moenovel?

The only differences:

 - in hot spring scene in common route girls would have nipples
 - SD CG in the same scene would be shot from different angle, with Akito's, ekhm, "rocket" visible
 - you get 4-5 H-scenes of various quality per heroine

Whether that would make it better or not is up to you ;)

 

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I'm still willing to wait though, although to tell the truth it would be need a long wait until the sex scenes were translated. So perhaps it would be the best if I just move on and read the censored version, and yet in the end I'm still hesitate because of the lack of sex scenes. Yeah I'm quite confuse to write my dilemma in regard of Miagete here lol, but in the end I'm leaned towards waiting for the sex scenes to be translated however long it is.

As for Miagete's routes, I believe that Konno Asta here took some reference from WA2 in regard of love triangle drama, which is quite evident that Saya was have a role in Hikari's route and also the fact that Saya herself was have the role in all routes. Also they did shared the past together, which I believed that Konno Asta here took some page from WA2 Introductory Chapter. So what I could say from looking at the spoilers is that Miagete here is probably a lighter version of WA2, although I may exaggerated it too much though.

If you want the reason of why you managed to find Miagete's side routes (Orihime and Korona) were weaker, I believe that it was because it's disconnected with the main plot. Yes I said disconnected because if we looking from the common route the main plot here is the love triangle between Saya and Hikari, and the side routes heroines were just came after the main trio (Saya, Hikari, and Akito (The MC)) relationship was established. Of course the routes for both of them would disconnected from the main plot, and therefore it might cause some discrepancies. It also help though that the writers for two side routes (Takashima Eiji) here is different from the main writer here.

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54 minutes ago, adamstan said:

IMHHW is unreadable without patch, that's for sure. I also rated it higher than Miagete, but that was because side routes in Miagete (Orihime and Korona) were weak for me - but I loved Hikari's and Saya's.

And yeah, music is great in both VNs.

The only differences:

 - in hot spring scene in common route girls would have nipples
 - SD CG in the same scene would be shot from different angle, with Akito's, ekhm, "rocket" visible
 - you get 4-5 H-scenes of various quality per heroine

If that would make it better or not is up to you ;)

 

Definitely better. Did you get feeling of affection from hikari? To me it was so sparce that it felt a bit forced when it happened as they acted more lile friends than anything else. Route was definitely written with h scenes in mind if you ask me.

Sayas route was fine though even though the drama was ridiculous..

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29 minutes ago, littleshogun said:

It also help though that the writers for two side routes (Takashima Eiji) here is different from the main writer here.

I think different writer may be main cause. Also, those two routes are more on the bland side, and thus maybe writer was more relying on h-scenes to spice things up.

29 minutes ago, littleshogun said:

in the end I'm leaned towards waiting for the sex scenes to be translated however long it is.

If sex scenes are important to you, then yes, you have to wait. I think they're not worth it, but to each their own.

And it's not that I'm anti-H. H-scenes were important for Konosora, and it wouldn't be as good without them. I also really enjoyed ero-scenes in recently read Koiiro and some other games, but in Miagete they (at least half of them) felt somewhat forced, and their placement was odd at times.

9 minutes ago, Stormwolf said:

Did you get feeling of affection from hikari?

Actually, yes. It is worth noticing, that the route implies that they have sex at least twice - just the intercourse itself isn't shown, but I'm fine with this. If there were two h-scenes, in places where it is implied in all-ages version (when they return home from the railcar, and after their argument in Akito's room) it would be perfect, but the actual placement and number of scenes in +18 version

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1. In the railcar, (replaced with just kissing in all-ages edition)
2. Right after, in hot spring - that was too much :P, this was completely omitted, implied sex scene happens after they go home (Akito says "I want to stay with you all night")
3. In the club room (the excuse in all-ages version that she fell asleep was actually pretty good)
4. Boobjob with half-asleep Hikari and then 5. actual scene in Akito's room (in all-ages version she straddles Akito but clothed, and there are some similar dialogues, which end with "If you tell me I'm heavy, I'll hit you", and then is impled sex scene)

disrupted the flow of the story for me. But yeah, it could use some h-scenes, just not as much as they actually made ;)

9 minutes ago, Stormwolf said:

Sayas route was fine though

Yeah, I agree. Drama was little over-the-top, but I still enjoyed it.

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Been binging Muv-Luv Alternative pretty hard.

And.......

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Cue rather intense battle sequence......

.... protag gets smacked with Heroic BSOD......

.......... well now it's over at least. Cue nice pep talk.......

..............

CUE HORRIFIC AND EXTREMELY GRAPHIC DEATH SCENE!!!!!

.........

....... and now game is talking about PTSD.....

.... no VN has dealt with PTSD since Grisaia no Kajitsu, and that was pretty nasty back then....

..... Jesus, this VN is intense :gasp:

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18 minutes ago, adamstan said:

I think different writer may be main cause. Also, those two routes are more on the bland side, and thus maybe writer was more relying on h-scenes to spice things up.

If sex scenes are important to you, then yes, you have to wait. I think they're not worth it, but to each their own.

And it's not that I'm anti-H. H-scenes were important for Konosora, and it wouldn't be as good without them. I also really enjoyed ero-scenes in recently read Koiiro and some other games, but in Miagete they (at least half of them) felt somewhat forced, and their placement was odd at times.

Actually, yes. It is worth noticing, that the route implies that they have sex at least twice - just the intercourse itself isn't shown, but I'm fine with this. If there were two h-scenes, in places where it is implied in all-ages version (when they return home from the railcar, and after their argument in Akito's room) it would be perfect, but the actual placement and number of scenes in +18 version

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1. In the railcar, (replaced with just kissing in all-ages edition)
2. Right after, in hot spring - that was too much :P, this was completely omitted, implied sex scene happens after they go home (Akito says "I want to stay with you all night")
3. In the club room (the excuse in all-ages version that she fell asleep was actually pretty good)
4. Boobjob with half-asleep Hikari and then 5. actual scene in Akito's room (in all-ages version she straddles Akito but clothed, and there are some similar dialogues, which end with "If you tell me I'm heavy, I'll hit you", and then is impled sex scene)

disrupted the flow of the story for me. But yeah, it could use some h-scenes, just not as much as they actually made ;)

Yeah, I agree. Drama was little over-the-top, but I still enjoyed it.

Its 17+ why does it have to be so vaguely implied? A scene with them undressed under the bedsheets etc is a powerful enough scene and not porn, so it should be more than fine.

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13 minutes ago, Stormwolf said:

A scene with them undressed under the bedsheets etc is a powerful enough scene and not porn, so it should be more than fine.

Ah, yes, that would be nice too - I love those cute "after-scenes" whenever they're present. Unfortunately, AFAIR, no such scenes in original version either :(

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1 hour ago, adamstan said:

Ah, yes, that would be nice too - I love those cute "after-scenes" whenever they're present. Unfortunately, AFAIR, no such scenes in original version either :(

Absolutely, but then the japanese have a bad sense of tact and delicacy. Goes from cute girls and romance to "omanko kimochiii", "ochinchin sugoooiii" etcetc. Even i think the h scenes can be a bit or way too much. The example i gave is what i'd really prefer.

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14 minutes ago, Stormwolf said:

The example i gave is what i'd really prefer.

So we're in agreement here :) IMO, scenes in KonoSora managed to maintain the balance, while in Miagete they were leaning too much on the "just porn" side for my taste. There were some good moments there, but overally I don't think I lost too much by reading +17 version.

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6 minutes ago, adamstan said:

So we're in agreement here :) IMO, scenes in KonoSora managed to maintain the balance, while in Miagete they were leaning too much on the "just porn" side for my taste. There were some good moments there, but overally I didn't think I lost too much by reading +17 version.

 

We're a bit in a disagreement about hikari's route though, but that's fine. I found it hard to think of it as anything but friends with benefits or simply being friends outside those way too few moments of her route where it's only protag and her. I agree with those who say that a vn cutting out the side heroines once you enter a route is bad, but when they're present for like 95% of the scenes then it's also a problem, just the other way around. And when you had alone time with her she was more like "saya, saya, saya" .. The route was better than saya content wise, but as a heroine Hikari lost spectacularly.

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1 minute ago, Stormwolf said:

And when you had alone time with her she was more like "saya, saya, saya" .. The route was better than saya content wise, but as a heroine Hikari lost spectacularly.

Hmm... my memory may be a bit hazy, but wasn't all that before they finally got together (scene in the railcar in the rain)? From what I remember, after that it was OK - but I have to admit, it happened pretty late in the route.

However, her epilogue atoned for all those sins in a magnificent way :D

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I absolutely love those family/marriage endings

 

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Hmm... my memory may be a bit hazy, but wasn't all that before they finally got together (scene in the railcar in the rain)? From what I remember, after that it was OK - but I have to admit, it happened pretty late in the route.

However, her epilogue atoned for all those sins in a magnificent way :D

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I absolutely love those family/marriage endings

 

Nahh, she was like that throughout the route. Like i said half jokingly, it could genre shift to yuri and it wouldn't feel way too off. But to me that's the consequence of the h scenes being replaced by nonsense and we're left with more or less no good boyfriend/girlfriend bonding. 

 And yes, the ending was beautiful.

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Started Fureraba ~Friend to Lover~. Its been pretty damn amusing so far! Quite a few funny scenes and a few of the heroines seem good!

Translation should have been better though. Can kind of tell the the translator is young with all the excessive cursewords, meme-ish phrases and sentences which are badly written. "I don't recall doing anything today to piss in your cheerios" really? How about "i don't recall pissing in your cheerios today" instead? 

Well, translation aside, the game seems good!

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  • 5. Bad End, ~2 hours long, about a visual novel that kills players who reach a bad end. It's a bit silly at times, and the translation is clunky, but not the worst way I've spent two hours.
  • 6. We Know the Devil, ~1½ hours long, about three teenagers at a Christian summer camp who are sent to a cabin overnight to fight off the devil. The catch? With each choice, you pick two characters to pair together, and one to be left out. There is a true ending, but that's its own flavor of creepy. I'm impressed by how the writing manages to pull off both "down-to-earth" and "surreal," along with the unique aesthetic.
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Currently finishing up Corona Blossom Vol. 1.

I'm also working on Cocoro Function. I'm done 3 episodes of LP so far.

I'm hoping to finish Corona Blossom Vol. 1 soon to start on another Pulltop title. I also have a few short titles queued up as well.

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1 hour ago, adamstan said:

How do you find it so far? I currently cannot decide what to read next, and Corona Blossom sits on my backlog...

For me, Corona Blossom is OK, but that's because I've played other "B" titles from Front Wing before starting this one (Pure Girl, Innocent Girl, and Yuki Koi Melt) and more or less can except how Corona Blossom will fare.

Obviously, it is not the title you want to consider if you really like the story to be deep, insightful, adventurous, epic, or close to literature quality. But it's a good easy read VN. I also like some of the character designs and the idea of the main character being fortunate to have all these girls around him.

Vol. 1 goes pretty slow and is mostly about raising an alien so like childcare (Will probably bore many people out). I'm told that Vol. 2 and 3 go into more adventure and action. I haven't touched those titles yet and I don't have a timeslot open for these volumes in the near future.

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I feel that Frontwing has recycled some elements from its previous B titles.

Shino feels a lot like Shizuri from Yuki Koi Melt and a little bit of Hinako from Innocent Girl

Kumiko feels like Kanon from Yuki Koi Melt

R-ne feels like Kagari from Innocent Girl

 

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