FinalChaos Posted March 31, 2016 Share Posted March 31, 2016 Starting One Thousand Lies now. I believe it'll be a fun ride. Also plan to read Tokyo Babel once it's downloaded. 2 hours ago, Vorathiel said: Your pic isn't opening. http://prntscr.com/amdrxm It's the very last cg of the vn. Vorathiel 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eclipsed Posted April 1, 2016 Share Posted April 1, 2016 16 hours ago, Dergonu said: Well I finished Lucy ~ The eternity she wished for ~ and it was so beautiful. Such a good read. I ended up losing to @Eclipsed though. (We were racing to see who could finish it first.) Can't belive I lost ... Damnit Anyways, time to start playing Tokyo Babel. Have it downloaded and ready. Will start no lifing it this weekend. (Want to race me again Eclipsed? ) Technically if you didn't sneak in OTL + your little review on it, you would've whooped my ass Lucy's great y'all. Read it. ~~ Sadly. I'll probably down for the count for the next few months when it comes to VNs. My fuel tank that has been running on E for years now finally outright broke, so I'll need to replace that before I can refuel. Dergonu 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred the Barber Posted April 1, 2016 Share Posted April 1, 2016 Just finished Steins;Gate for the March reading club. The phone choice system is pretty annoying, but the rest of the game is more or less perfect. I was surprised at how nearly identical it was to what I recall from the anime (normally, VN adaptations have to diverge pretty heavily), but the VN having side-routes makes a huge difference in the world. Each one really increased the impact of the main route alternative and gave a great feeling of closure for the associated character, as well as reliably providing a meaningful and solid ending to the story in its own right. The anime is way up there on my list of favorites, so with the VN coming out even better, it ended up basically at the top of my list. I don't want to dissect this one too much, because the whole experience doesn't feel like something I can break down easily. I will say that there were lots of tears; probably more than for any other VN I've played. And I'll just add a recommendation that, if you're an idiot like several-weeks-ago-me who hasn't played Steins;Gate yet, make the time for it as soon as you can. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BookwormOtaku Posted April 1, 2016 Share Posted April 1, 2016 Taking Tokyo Babel for a spin and really liking it so far. The beginning did a good job pulling me in and the comedy is not only really good but it's strange how it never seems at odds with the rest of the story. Can't wait to see what direction this goes. BTW, anyone else thinking of Tieria from Gundam 00 when Setsuna speaks? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eclipsed Posted April 1, 2016 Share Posted April 1, 2016 Oh yeah, here's some quick thoughts on Lucy. Best scene in the entire VN: Awww yeah, commence H-scene!@# April fools. ~~ TL;DR I'm too old now so I didn't cry a river, but I did tear up and experience some pretty good feelsy feels, and the True End didn't "mind blow" me as much as it could've (because I'm a seasoned Zero Escape plot twist experiencer), jk it did and I could only grin like a moron. It's a solid >= 8 out of 10 VN. Excellent visuals, Lucy's JP voice is great, appropriate BGM, and it manages to do what it wants to do with its story and themes given its short length. ~~Misc. Thoughts/Ramblings (spoilers) @Nosebleed since you were interested in this ? Spoiler First Impressions Spoiler You can read my shoddy first impressions here (apparently these were made a month ago, GG, took one month to finish a 6ish hour VN ~~Commentary from mid to endgame -You's dad sucks. Like, he's the worst VN Antagonist I've come across since Kono Sora's Tobioka-Sensei. ie. a character that exists purely to cockblock the story & characters with their poisonous pessimism and brick wall negativity, and they get no redeeming scenes by the end whatsoever. Maybe that's how it was meant to be, but eh whatever, screw him!!!!1@# Spoiler Hey, if You was like you (heh...), you fker, I would've dropped this VN. -Some of the best romance moments for me are when the protagonist goes through the "Holy crap, I'm in love with this heroine!" realization phase. You has an S-grade realization phase where he is laying in bed sick & Lucy being her usual happy cheerful self taking care of him. Then he just embraces her, tells her it's all her fault that he became this way, and she just apologizes repeatedly before finally embracing him back. It's just so d'awwwwwwwwwwww Spoiler D'AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW -Did I mention Lucy's pretty hawt? Spoiler Well, she just got even hotter. Btw, I think everyone who read Planetarian before this wondered how Lucy would go, and I bet none of us thought it would be from getting gasoline-ignited by a jerkass father ._. -You know how sometimes a medium has a title that has no relation to itself at all, or even worse, a really half-assed mention (*cough* Charlotte)? Well, Lucy does its ~The Eternity she wished for~ title 100% justice. I wet my pants during the late game discussion between You and Lucy where they talk about what eternity means, how Lucy's Eternity was to be remembered by You forever, and the whole philosophical Lucy's body vs. Lucy's memory bits. Spoiler Decisions, decisions. I chose original memories, haven't checked other choice dialogue results. And as obvious as picking original memories may be, Lucy did mention that, at least in the lore of this VN, you could alter her memories just as easily as replacing her parts... So, solution? Pick both!@# Twice the Lucy!@# And then they even manage to put icing on the cake by adding "And... What I wish for" to the title once you nab the ends. Speaking of the ends,Forgotten End vs. True End Small comment about these two ends, I really like how much they contrast / how black and white they are to each other. Forgotten End Lucy gets the biggest slap to the face in the history of slap to the faces with You abandoning the whole "Lucy's eternity is to be remembered by master forever" by his ultimately moving on, completely forgetting Lucy, and getting stable job + wife + children within the next 20 years Whereas true end Lucy gets the biggest 'copout' happy ending in the history of (just kidding, it's lampshaded by the whole 'he spent the next 15 years working day and night to bring back Lucy'. ie. it didn't really feel like a copout / he 'earned' his happy end. Anyways, it's much better than LB's insta-space magic, at least).True End You is the Doctor in the 'flashbacks' the whole time?!?!!! HOLY SHIT!@## That's all that really needs to be said. But yeah, I had some suspishies here and there, but would always brush them aside, cuz context from those dialogues were totally appropriate for yada yada blah blah blahCommence tears. Dergonu 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dergonu Posted April 1, 2016 Share Posted April 1, 2016 3 minutes ago, Eclipsed said: Oh yeah, here's are some quick thoughts on Lucy. Best scene in the entire VN: Awww yeah, commence H-scene!@# April fools. ~~ TL;DR I'm too old now so I didn't cry a river, but I did tear up and experience some pretty good feelsy feels, and the True End didn't "mind blow" me as much as it could've (because I'm a seasoned Zero Escape plot twist experiencer), jk it did and I could only grin like a moron. It's a solid >= 8 out of 10 VN. Excellent visuals, Lucy's JP voice is great, appropriate BGM, and it manages to do what it wants to do with its story and themes given its short length. ~~Misc. Thoughts/Ramblings Reveal hidden contents First Impressions Reveal hidden contents You can read my shoddy first impressions here (apparently these were made a month ago, GG, took one month to finish a 6ish hour VN Commentary from mid to endgame -You's dad sucks. Like, he's the worst VN Antagonist I've come across since Kono Sora's Tobioka-Sensei. ie. a character that exists purely to cockblock the story & characters with their poisonous pessimism and brick wall negativity, and they get no redeeming scenes by the end whatsoever. Maybe that's how it was meant to be, but eh whatever, screw him!!!!1@# Reveal hidden contents Hey, if You was like you (heh...), you fker, I would've dropped this VN. -Some of the best romance moments for me are when the protagonist goes through the "Holy crap, I'm in love with this heroine!" realization phase. You has an S-grade realization phase where he is laying in bed sick & Lucy being her usual happy cheerful self taking care of him. Then he just embraces her, tells her it's all her fault that he became this way, and she just apologizes repeatedly before finally embracing him back. It's just so d'awwwwwwwwwwww Reveal hidden contents D'AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW -Did I mention Lucy's pretty hawt? Reveal hidden contents Well, she just got even hotter. Btw, I think everyone who read Planetarian before this wondered how Lucy would go, and I bet none of us thought it would be from getting gasoline-ignited by a jerkass father ._. -You know how sometimes a medium has a title that has no relation to itself at all, or even worse, a really half-assed mention (*cough* Charlotte)? Well, Lucy does its ~The Eternity she wished for~ title 100% justice. I wet my pants during the late game discussion between You and Lucy where they talk about what eternity means, how Lucy's Eternity was to be remembered by You forever, and the whole philosophical Lucy's body vs. Lucy's memory bits. Reveal hidden contents Decisions, decisions. I chose original memories, haven't checked other choice dialogue results. And as obvious as picking original memories may be, Lucy did mention that, at least in the lore of this VN, you could alter her memories just as easily as replacing her parts... So, solution? Pick both!@# Twice the Lucy!@# And then they even manage to put icing on the cake by adding "And... What I wish for" to the title once you nab the ends. Speaking of the ends,Forgotten End vs. True End Small comment about these two ends, I really like how much they contrast / how black and white they are to each other. Forgotten End Lucy gets the biggest slap to the face in the history of slap to the faces with You abandoning the whole "Lucy's eternity is to be remembered by master forever" by his ultimately moving on, completely forgetting Lucy, and getting stable job + wife + children within the next 20 years Whereas true end Lucy gets the biggest 'copout' happy ending in the history of (just kidding, it's lampshaded by the whole 'he spent the next 15 years working day and night to bring back Lucy'. ie. it didn't really feel like a copout. Anyways, it's much better than LB's insta-space magic, at least).True End You is the Doctor in the 'flashbacks' the whole time?!?!!! HOLY SHIT!@## That's all that really needs to be said. But yeah, I had some suspishies here and there, but would always brush them aside, cuz context from those dialogues were totally appropriate for yada yada blah blah blahCommence tears. /Rant Glad we share a lot of opinions. This thing was so beautiful. That "To ensure safe sexual practice" scene made me laugh really hard Gold. Spoiler Rated no H-scene / 10 Eclipsed 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nosebleed Posted April 1, 2016 Share Posted April 1, 2016 I tried all 3 choices when Lucy asks which one you'd pick and they're all kinda negative so there's no true correct choice. Also the achievement apparently gets unlocked regardless of the choice, solidifying the paradox even more. I'm glad you enjoyed the game, it's good to see people having such fun experiences with it. And yeah that "sex scene" was pretty damn hilarious. Dergonu 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vorathiel Posted April 1, 2016 Share Posted April 1, 2016 I/O - Revision II. I'm in the middle of second chapter, game tells me that this is around 30% of the whole. What a strange title. First game by Regista (Root Double), written and directed by who is standing behind Infinity Series. Sometimes I feel like I should gave it 10/10, sometimes 5/10 tops. It's not like it's irregular or uneven. It's just so hard to understand (at this point) what's going on, that I really don't know waht I think about this. Sometimes it's very serious, sometimes it does typical moe-shit (very small amounts, but becaouse of seriousness, it's visible), sometimes it's really smart, and sometimes it's just dumb. It's a retro-sf. Action is takin place in 203X, but it's like hard sf predicting not so distant future, but written in 80s/90s (game was developed 10 years ago). All that virtual reality stuff, biocomputers are fine and somehow creative, but search engines works like it's 1997 (protag of first route is literally typing "WORD AND WORD AND WORD) and it's not giving him any results, because he was just searchng the net, and not typing it in some dictionary. But I don't mind that. Retro SF can be really fun, and this definitelly is. Art it's strange, colours are really bleak and characters are crooked and sometimes just 'ugly', but they have very distinctive and original vibe, which is great. Music is awesome, although is unfoundable on youtube. Anybody read it? Canicheslayer 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Funyarinpa Posted April 1, 2016 Share Posted April 1, 2016 3 minutes ago, Vorathiel said: I/O - Revision II. I'm in the middle of second chapter, game tells me that this is around 30% of the whole. What a strange title. First game by Regista (Root Double), written and directed by who is standing behind Infinity Series. Sometimes I feel like I should gave it 10/10, sometimes 5/10 tops. It's not like it's irregular or uneven. It's just so hard to understand (at this point) what's going on, that I really don't know waht I think about this. Sometimes it's very serious, sometimes it does typical moe-shit (very small amounts, but becaouse of seriousness, it's visible), sometimes it's really smart, and sometimes it's just dumb. It's a retro-sf. Action is takin place in 203X, but it's like hard sf predicting not so distant future, but written in 80s/90s (game was developed 10 years ago). All that virtual reality stuff, biocomputers are fine and somehow creative, but search engines works like it's 1997 (protag of first route is literally typing "WORD AND WORD AND WORD) and it's not giving him any results, because he was just searchng the net, and not typing it in some dictionary. But I don't mind that. Retro SF can be really fun, and this definitelly is. Art it's strange, colours are really bleak and characters are crooked and sometimes just 'ugly', but they have very distinctive and original vibe, which is great. Music is awesome, although is unfoundable on youtube. Anybody read it? Read until I was quite a ways into it. Dropped after a point because it got WAY too confusing, you'll understand why once you get to Route C/D. Loved the atmosphere and music (I/O's OP might really be my favorite VN opening to date), but I am too stupid for it so it lost me after a while. I should give it another spin sometime Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eclipsed Posted April 1, 2016 Share Posted April 1, 2016 What's I/O about? Is it just mindscrew after mindscrew after mindscrew Retro Sci-Fi style? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Decay Posted April 1, 2016 Share Posted April 1, 2016 10 minutes ago, Eclipsed said: What's I/O about? Is it just mindscrew after mindscrew after mindscrew Retro Sci-Fi style? It's not necessarily full of mindscrews, although there are some in there. It's just not very straightforward in its narrative, especially in routes D and E... I think, I forgot which routes were which by now lol. The narrative blends reality and virtual reality in a way that often makes it very difficult to understand what's really happening and what's not, and if that's even a meaningful distinction to begin with. Lemnisca's translation of it was fantastic, so at least that's not an issue. Eclipsed 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canicheslayer Posted April 1, 2016 Share Posted April 1, 2016 I'm reading/playing it too. 30 hours on it (All that remains is the "true route" part) ...I absolutely adore the art, the music, most of the characters (Mayumi ), the cyberpunk universe....and the narration is terrifically interesting. But you have to read/play it little by little. Because, it's so exhausting (route C or D were more or less OK. However my poor brain wasn't prepared to Route E) Edit : Indeed, It's too bad we can't find I/O's OST Vorathiel 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turnip Sensei Posted April 1, 2016 Share Posted April 1, 2016 Tokyo Babel is pretty swell. I already read Raziel's route, I just couldn't stop partway. Here's some random non-spoilery impressions, partly because I'm tired and partly because I feel it's important to hype good new VNs. Tokyo Babel is damn cool. Character and monster designs, chuuni dialog, fight scenes... Tension, excitement and "Hell Yeah"-feelings are really strong most of the time. The music is really good, both the melancholic pieces and the high-tension battle music. It's surprisingly humorous. Some amount of humor is always expected, but Tokyo Babel manages to be really hilarious at times, and in a way that doesn't distract from the serious parts. The setting is really fascinating in Tokyo Babel and so are it's themes. Since the setting is based on Christian mythology it should come as no surprise that it's filled with religious themes, but at times Tokyo Babel managed to still really impress me. Without going to too much detail, there's some pretty intriguing stuff about topics like faith, immortality, and of course reason for being -- "raison d'être". Oh yeah, the translation is top notch too. It sounds very natural during normal conversations as it should, and more importantly suitably theatrical when it needs to. So yeah, it's great. I can't wait to see what the other routes have to offer. BookwormOtaku and Suzu Fanatic 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suzu Fanatic Posted April 1, 2016 Share Posted April 1, 2016 2 hours ago, Turnip Sensei said: Tokyo Babel is pretty swell. I already read Raziel's route, I just couldn't stop partway. Here's some random non-spoilery impressions, partly because I'm tired and partly because I feel it's important to hype good new VNs. Tokyo Babel is damn cool. Character and monster designs, chuuni dialog, fight scenes... Tension, excitement and "Hell Yeah"-feelings are really strong most of the time. The music is really good, both the melancholic pieces and the high-tension battle music. It's surprisingly humorous. Some amount of humor is always expected, but Tokyo Babel manages to be really hilarious at times, and in a way that doesn't distract from the serious parts. The setting is really fascinating in Tokyo Babel and so are it's themes. Since the setting is based on Christian mythology it should come as no surprise that it's filled with religious themes, but at times Tokyo Babel managed to still really impress me. Without going to too much detail, there's some pretty intriguing stuff about topics like faith, immortality, and of course reason for being -- "raison d'être". Oh yeah, the translation is top notch too. It sounds very natural during normal conversations as it should, and more importantly suitably theatrical when it needs to. So yeah, it's great. I can't wait to see what the other routes have to offer. I'm in love with it mostly, too. My heart hurts seeing it have such a weak reception. If I had an issue (besides some pacing problems), I'm not really into how MG conveyed Sorami's manner of written dialouge - it feels "off" compared to her voiceactor. Plus cheesy things like "gosh darn"...I mean, WHO SAYS THAT?! Might be because she was also Tohsaka Rin (I think? sure sounds like her VA), so some of the re-imagined dialouge is a bit jarring. I'm ok with the rest of the localization though~ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Poltroon Posted April 2, 2016 Share Posted April 2, 2016 4 hours ago, Eclipsed said: What's I/O about? Is it just mindscrew after mindscrew after mindscrew Retro Sci-Fi style? I couldn't stand it. After about half an hour the narration irked me so much I ragequit. I don't think I even gave it a fair chance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CatSoul Posted April 2, 2016 Share Posted April 2, 2016 I'm playing Yume Miru Kusuri at the moment. It's sort of a mixed bag. The protagonist is a douche, but the girls are sweet. The eroge is well-written, but gratuitous at times. And why is there no route for the little sister? The protagonist is spending all this time building up relationships with the girls, meanwhile he has like a nukige level of sexual tension with his little sister. And then she just kinda fades out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turnip Sensei Posted April 2, 2016 Share Posted April 2, 2016 18 hours ago, Suzu Fanatic said: I'm in love with it mostly, too. My heart hurts seeing it have such a weak reception. If I had an issue (besides some pacing problems), I'm not really into how MG conveyed Sorami's manner of written dialouge - it feels "off" compared to her voiceactor. Plus cheesy things like "gosh darn"...I mean, WHO SAYS THAT?! Might be because she was also Tohsaka Rin (I think? sure sounds like her VA), so some of the re-imagined dialouge is a bit jarring. I'm ok with the rest of the localization though~ I actually really like the way Sorami's speech is portrayed in the translation. She already says weird things in Japanese and in strangely energetic way, so in my head the 'gosh darn' blabbering Sorami is perfect match for her voice acting. And I just really like how Sorami talks in general. Some of my favorite lines from Tokyo Babel so far came from Sorami blurting out something really heavy in really mundane and natural way, like it would be the most obvious thing in the world. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vorathiel Posted April 2, 2016 Share Posted April 2, 2016 12 hours ago, Canicheslayer said: I'm reading/playing it too. 30 hours on it (All that remains is the "true route" part) ...I absolutely adore the art, the music, most of the characters (Mayumi ), the cyberpunk universe....and the narration is terrifically interesting. But you have to read/play it little by little. Because, it's so exhausting (route C or D were more or less OK. However my poor brain wasn't prepared to Route E) Edit : Indeed, It's too bad we can't find I/O's OST It's decoded in 'BGM.arc' file, but sadly I couldn't extract it with any program I have. I also play it little by little. In last few days I watched whole House Of Cards season 4, whole Heroes Of Might and Magic campaign on youtube (around 45 hours), and read maybe 6 hours of I/O... but I still feel, that I/O cost me the most. But it's great, I love how focus demanding it is. And yeah, keep me in fear of route E. Can't wait to see that! I don't really like structure though. Although it fits with setting moe straightforward aproach than all those 1.0 and 0.1 ending and then also routes " ' " is just...unnecessary. Canicheslayer 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arcadeotic Posted April 2, 2016 Share Posted April 2, 2016 Replaying Dracu-riot! a.k.a my most favorite moege, period. Starting with Rio's route, and it still has the best ichaicha I've ever seen The heartburns are real, and I can't stop smiling This fantastic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canicheslayer Posted April 2, 2016 Share Posted April 2, 2016 8 hours ago, Vorathiel said: I also play it little by little. In last few days I watched whole House Of Cards season 4, whole Heroes Of Might and Magic campaign on youtube (around 45 hours), and read maybe 6 hours of I/O... but I still feel, that I/O cost me the most. But it's great, I love how focus demanding it is. Good. You're wiser than me. I did make the mistake to read, without a real pause (and so I neglected Gahkthun), routes B, C, D (0,1 & 1.0) and E Quote And yeah, keep me in fear of route E. Can't wait to see that! Prepare the aspirin and don't lose your sanity Quote I don't really like structure though. Although it fits with setting moe straightforward aproach than all those 1.0 and 0.1 ending and then also routes " ' " is just...unnecessary Yes, their intentions were good. I really love originality but It's more confusing and frustrating (seriously, Route A or B 0.1...) than anything...I Hope Root Double will be different 10 hours ago, CatSoul said: I'm playing Yume Miru Kusuri at the moment. [...]And why is there no route for the little sister? The protagonist is spending all this time building up relationships with the girls, meanwhile he has like a nukige level of sexual tension with his little sister. And then she just kinda fades out. I read somewhere it was a question of budget for the developer, rúf. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john 'mr. customer' smith Posted April 2, 2016 Share Posted April 2, 2016 So I finally finished Sekien no Inganock. it was satisfying, beautiful, but still probably too complicated and allegorical for me to truly appreciate it outside of its art Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CatSoul Posted April 2, 2016 Share Posted April 2, 2016 I ended up finishing Shiraki's route in Yume Miru Kusuri last night by staying up until 3:30 in the morning. Totally worth all the BS. Without spoiling much, the last hour or so of reading was top-notch. Overall, I'd give it a 7/10, primarily for its rough start. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred the Barber Posted April 2, 2016 Share Posted April 2, 2016 2 hours ago, john 'mr. customer' smith said: So I finally finished Sekien no Inganock. it was satisfying, beautiful, but still probably too complicated and allegorical for me to truly appreciate it outside of its art Maybe I'm just too dense to notice it, but I don't think there are any "big" allegories or complications that you should be looking for or be worried about, in Inganock. My feeling from both Inganock and Gahkthun was that the Steampunk series is actually about telling rather simple stories about human emotions and motivations, using a big, fantastic setting and somewhat complicated plot to really bring out the most of that emotional impact. At any rate, fiction is a work of art created by an author and a reader - so don't let me or anybody else take away from it what you found there john 'mr. customer' smith 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBanballow Posted April 4, 2016 Share Posted April 4, 2016 Finished off the first portion of "ef - the first tale", but probably gonna set it aside for a few days before I go back to finish it. In the meantime, I got a few new HCs in from JList, so I'll probably give either Hanachirasu or Raidy III a look. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_dive Posted April 5, 2016 Share Posted April 5, 2016 Finished the Partial translation of dracu-riot. Plot is pretty meh, the whole vampire plot thing's been overdone so I found noble works better. Also the plot is more predictable than shyamalan's The Visit Translation is definitely australian. Also memes. Gonna read tokyo babel now. Have high hopes since its by the same dudes who did ayakashibito. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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