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I recently downloaded the VN Majikoi, everything seemed to have downloaded well and worked fine until I started to click its really hard to put into words on what occurs, but usually the game becomes invisible, blanks out, then re opens here a picture of what it does when I click then what it looks like on the toolbar.

 

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http://prntscr.com/7kzbmj

http://prntscr.com/7kzajm

 

Not only did this problem keep occurring every 95% of the time I click on Majikoi and Majikoi S to go to the next text, now it even does the same thing for when I play League of Legends or World of Warcraft If I try to click it will black out then it will fade under the toolbar section then re-open. Not only does this happen, but I cant even Alt tab out of the games anymore if I try to League of Legends or World of Warcraft will complete crash and wont open when I click on the Icon. I have to completely reset the game itself. 

 

I've never seen such a problem before it would be much appreciated if anyone can solve this problem for me!!!

 

It would be very easy to show you the problem through Skype Screen share if possible. 

 

Thank you.

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I'm sorry to have to do this but...

 

...have you tried turning it off and on?

 

That sorted, do see that your keyboards doesn't have a stuck key. After that, try turning off programs (including those running in the background) like Skype, etc, and see if that solves your problem.

 

Also, try turning Majikoi's fullscreen mode off / on and see what that does.

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I'm sorry to have to do this but...

 

...have you tried turning it off and on?

 

That sorted, do see that your keyboards doesn't have a stuck key. After that, try turning off programs (including those running in the background) like Skype, etc, and see if that solves your problem.

 

Also, try turning Majikoi's fullscreen mode off / on and see what that does.

 

Lol yes I've tried turning it on and off xD Ive played it enough where I have completed 2 routes and on my third right now problem still occurring. I have tried windows mode, for every game the same error will happen. I turned off Skype, but didnt solve the problem. 

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While I doubt it's a virus, might be an idea to run either JRT, adwcleaner or hitman pro, see if anything flags up.

It would be interesting to see if it's 2 processes or only one though.

Yea I've already ran Malware and ADWcleaner awhile back just to get rid of the PUP ups I got from downloading the game itself nothing else has shown.

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In task manager are there multiple processes the same?

 

No there doesnt seem to be multiple version of the process, but recently I found out that randomly and frequently the every game client I run in will say (Not responding) but the game is still playable.

 

Example:

http://prntscr.com/7lb644

 

After saying not responding it will blank out then resume then do it again within 5-15 seconds. 

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Takmanager usually doesn't show all processes which are running, it might still be that the programms are blocking themselves for some reason.

You should try looking at the processes via Process Explorer (you have to download and install it first), it's like an advanced Task Manager it even shows which processes are conncted which each other.

 

it looks like this:

xpzc9jd6.png

 

It even has a search function to figure out what a process does.

You can also temporarily kill a process or every process conncted to it (temporarily means if you kill an important process your PC might crash but after restarting everything is okay again).

That way you might even see yourself what causes the problem that might be a certain programm you can uninstall or it a hidden virus which is also possible to detect like that.

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Takmanager usually doesn't show all processes which are running, it might still be that the programms are blocking themselves for some reason.

You should try looking at the processes via Process Explorer (you have to download and install it first), it's like an advanced Task Manager it even shows which processes are conncted which each other.

 

it looks like this:

xpzc9jd6.png

 

It even has a search function to figure out what a process does.

You can also temporarily kill a process or every process conncted to it (temporarily means if you kill an important process your PC might crash but after restarting everything is okay again).

That way you might even see yourself what causes the problem that might be a certain programm you can uninstall or it a hidden virus which is also possible to detect like that.

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I never had this problem so unfortunatly I don't know.

The programm doesn't show errors it only shows the processes. You should try observing the process explorer and look which processes start or shut down when you try to start the VN if you see something wierd you can try killing the process (but be sure to search the function of the process first, so you aviod to kill a process which is important to the OS) and see if it works after that or you might see that a certain programm on your PC reacts in that case you can try uninstalling that if the first method doesn't work.

That's a "trial and error"-way to solve such problems but it works most of the times (not always though).

A picture would only help if it's something obviously wierd (like the same process 2 or more times but in such cases you would see yourself what the problem is) because it's importend when the processes start and work in addition to that I can't know all processes on your PC because I don't know which programms or drivers are installed.

 

If that doesn't work you could look up if your PC created a recovery point not too long before the problem first occured if that's the case you can reset your PC back to that point and if it is a software-problem it should work again.

 

But before doing anything like that you could look up if you installed somethin before the problem first occured even official windows updates or drivers can cause something like that or worse (I once installed an official driver which almost killed my PC) if you did, try uninstalling everything including the updates from that date and restart the PC if that worked you could install the updates/ programms one by one again and figure out the cause that way.

 

If all that doesn't work I could ask a few friends of mine (information/computer scientists I know from university) if they can help, but that would take a while.

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I never had this problem so unfortunatly I don't know.

The programm doesn't show errors it only shows the processes. You should try observing the process explorer and look which processes start or shut down when you try to start the VN if you see something wierd you can try killing the process (but be sure to search the function of the process first, so you aviod to kill a process which is important to the OS) and see if it works after that or you might see that a certain programm on your PC reacts in that case you can try uninstalling that if the first method doesn't work.

That's a "trial and error"-way to solve such problems but it works most of the times (not always though).

A picture would only help if it's something obviously wierd (like the same process 2 or more times but in such cases you would see yourself what the problem is) because it's importend when the processes start and work in addition to that I can't know all processes on your PC because I don't know which programms or drivers are installed.

 

If that doesn't work you could look up if your PC created a recovery point not too long before the problem first occured if that's the case you can reset your PC back to that point and if it is a software-problem it should work again.

 

But before doing anything like that you could look up if you installed somethin before the problem first occured even official windows updates or drivers can cause something like that or worse (I once installed an official driver which almost killed my PC) if you did, try uninstalling everything including the updates from that date and restart the PC if that worked you could install the updates/ programms one by one again and figure out the cause that way.

 

If all that doesn't work I could ask a few friends of mine (information/computer scientists I know from university) if they can help, but that would take a while.

 

Thanks alot I keep trying to skim through my processes, but I know for sure something started to go wrong after I downloaded the game. I play on after completing it deleting it to see what happens hopefully the same error doesnt occur for me with Majikoi S after deleting 1, but for now seems like the same issue. 

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If it started right after downloading it, there is a high probability that you have a well hidden virus on your PC. Try to scan your PC just to be sure.

On this note, be sure to select "scan before boot" option if it's available.  I know at least an older version of Avast! had it at one point. 

 

Really, I don't think this problem has anything to do with the visual novel itself.  PM me the link you used to download it, I can check on my system whether or not it's a localized issue which may be of help determining where it might have come from.

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On 6/26/2015 at 11:35 PM, sarkasmus said:

If it started right after downloading it, there is a high probability that you have a well hidden virus on your PC. Try to scan your PC just to be sure.

Ive scanned with before Malwarbyte and ADWcleaner it shown nothing deadly.

On 6/27/2015 at 12:41 AM, Abyssal Monkey said:

On this note, be sure to select "scan before boot" option if it's available. I know at least an older version of Avast! had it at one point.

Really, I don't think this problem has anything to do with the visual novel itself. PM me the link you used to download it, I can check on my system whether or not it's a localized issue which may be of help determining where it might have come from.

[removed] is where I downloaded it.

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s a general note on the issue itself: Windows can be really bad at determining which programs are not responding and which are.  I've had issues similar in the past, but they were all benign and never caused a problem and went away after a while.


Ive scanned with before Malwarbyte and ADWcleaner it shown nothing deadly.

If you trust them, then it might not be a virus issue.  Personally, I'm a skeptic to MWB and ADW, but that's just me.  If so then I can only repeat this as a potential solution:

If that doesn't work you could look up if your PC created a recovery point not too long before the problem first occured if that's the case you can reset your PC back to that point and if it is a software-problem it should work again.

 

I would recommend booting in safe mode and see if you can't reproduce the issue.  If it still appears, you can try Clean-boot mode and attempt again.  If it still appears there, I'm writing it off as a failure of windows.  If it doesn't appear, most probably some of your drivers went bad, and sorting those out can be a headache.

 

All in all if it does seem more like a windows issue than a virus, you're basically limited to fixing the OS.  The simplest ways to do it would be either a system restore or a system refresh. Finally the penultimate bomb would be the non-destructive reinstallation of windows, or a Repair install.

 

Most viruses don't show up under processes either, and sometimes tracking down the issue can take more time than it's potentially worth. 

 

Short of that, depending on how soluble your computer is, if the problem keeps presenting itself without being solved over a long term, and it's bothersome enough, you always have the option of completely rebuilding your OS, from a clean disk format.  It's always the last option to take, but for me, who only has ~50gb of necessary data, I can reflash my entire computer and get it back in working order in just under 6 hours.

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Adw and Malware actually have low detection on viruses outside adware and general Malware. Get hitman pro.just kickstand and boot from usb and see what happens

Also go with a factory remaster instead of a refresh as refresh seems to cause more issues.

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Adw and Malware actually have low detection on viruses outside adware and general Malware. Get hitman pro.just kickstand and boot from usb and see what happens

Also go with a factory remaster instead of a refresh as refresh seems to cause more issues.

 

I tried to cleaned my comp with hitman pro, but the problem still occurs. So can I say its not a trojan or Malware problem? Although it still does kinda seem like one?

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there are some kind of virus which such programs don't detect, those are either very new types of malware or trojans, some kind of high-end virus or they sent themselves to parts of your PC where other kinds of software don't have access to.

 

But I don't think it's a malware or something similar, because I got it from the same source and it's running fine.

 

Do you have problems with other games or programms since that fist happened or a bit before or after that? If that's the case it might be the OS or even the hardware which is causing the problems.

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there are some kind of virus which such programs don't detect, those are either very new types of malware or trojans, some kind of high-end virus or they sent themselves to parts of your PC where other kinds of software don't have access to.

 

But I don't think it's a malware or something similar, because I got it from the same source and it's running fine.

 

Do you have problems with other games or programms since that fist happened or a bit before or after that? If that's the case it might be the OS or even the hardware which is causing the problems.

 

Yea in general my whole computer has been funky such as unresponsive game,s clicking on apps in the toolbar some wont pop up, and alt tabbing breaks apps.

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It sounds like somethings wrong with the grapphiccards driver, the graphiccard itself, the HDD/SSD your OS is installed on or the mainboard (or something else but when I had such problems with one of my older PCs/Laptops it always was one of those points).

Usually you can check the HDD/SSD yourself but I only know how to do this on W7 it might be different with an other OS, it tells you if somethings wrong with it.

 

If everything it okay with the HDD/SSD:

Could you try closing all apps and move the cursor very fast for a few minutes, does everything stop responding (including the curser) when you do this? If yes try installing an older driver and look if it works.

If it doesn't happen or the old driver doesn't work you should show the PC to a PC-Specialist, sometimes they can repair ist or they can tell you which part you have to replace but if it's an old PC or an Laptop there's a high chance that it's beyond saving or a new PC yould be cheaper than repairing it so try to make a backup before doing so, just in case.

 

If everythings okay with the hardware, the only option left (at least the only otion I could think of) is to reset your PC to it's factory settings and hope.

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Yea in general my whole computer has been funky such as unresponsive game,s clicking on apps in the toolbar some wont pop up, and alt tabbing breaks apps.

Again, try booting it into safe mode and attempt to recreate the problem.  This will tell us if it's windows or a third party program/driver that you installed that broke.

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Again, try booting it into safe mode and attempt to recreate the problem.  This will tell us if it's windows or a third party program/driver that you installed that broke.

 

I Booted in Safemode and attempted to get into Majikoi, but got an error saying Faily to initialize Directsound. If that means anything.

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