Eclipsed Posted May 30, 2015 Share Posted May 30, 2015 Another, more serious ( ) quality of life superfluous suggestion: make shoutbox accessible on the main forums, towards the bottom so it's non obtrusive. To all the peeps 'I dun use so it's an outright horrible, detrimental and harmful idea that should not be implemented', there can be an option to minimize: P.S. T-ara <3 UPDATE: Failure. Breaks the site upon implementation. May look into 3rd party chat software in the future. Mr Poltroon 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nohman Posted May 30, 2015 Share Posted May 30, 2015 I don't think it's a bad idea, more people might actually start to use it. At the same time, I hate change so there's that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nosebleed Posted May 30, 2015 Share Posted May 30, 2015 B-but that's changing things! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fiddle Posted May 30, 2015 Share Posted May 30, 2015 Oh yeah, that thing exists. Sure, good idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abyssal Monkey Posted May 30, 2015 Share Posted May 30, 2015 As long as it's registered users with 10+ posts to keep spambots out, I couldn't care less. If It really bothers me, I'll just use stylish or adblock to filter the thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zodai Posted May 30, 2015 Share Posted May 30, 2015 In-general the shoutbox's implementation is such that it's a bit out of the way to get to at the moment. Putting it at the front means it'll be right there for anyone who scrolls to the bottom, and can probably jump onto the conversation on a moment's notice. It's going to boost activity by quite a bit from what I can tell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lewycool Posted May 30, 2015 Share Posted May 30, 2015 Meh... No thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kimossab Posted May 30, 2015 Share Posted May 30, 2015 I'm neutral on this. The chat is kinda unknown around here, so in the main forum page would lead for it to get more noticeable. I prefer it as it is, but I can deal with anything that comes (unless it's an overflow of users, that I can't really deal with, except running away) so yea, whatever comes is fine by me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stray Cat Posted May 30, 2015 Share Posted May 30, 2015 I think I've expressed my thoughts on this well enough at another point in time. But.....why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Poltroon Posted May 30, 2015 Share Posted May 30, 2015 I think I've expressed my thoughts on this well enough at another point in time. Sheesh, I dunno. It certainly doesn't have anything to do with the usual lack of activity in the chat, that I'm sure of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nosebleed Posted May 30, 2015 Share Posted May 30, 2015 I think I've expressed my thoughts on this well enough at another point in time. But... why not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stray Cat Posted May 30, 2015 Share Posted May 30, 2015 But... why not nohman and Nosebleed 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shikomizue Posted May 30, 2015 Share Posted May 30, 2015 I think it would be a good idea. It'd probably bring the more shy members of Fuwa to the shoutbox. (Like me for instance.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ceris Posted May 31, 2015 Share Posted May 31, 2015 My worry would be unnecessarily increase on the load time every time you want to go to the forum index. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darklord Rooke Posted May 31, 2015 Share Posted May 31, 2015 As long as there's an option to minimise, imo it's a good idea and worth a try. Sometimes I think Tay put the Fuwachat where he did just to troll people "Yes I'll give you your beloved chat program. Please proceed past the treacherous and trap-infested tunnels, through the chambers filled with poisonous gas, down The-Hidden-Staircase-of-Balthazar ...:" It's a pain to use and it will probably die where it is, but it was brought in for a specific purpose. Which it's not really achieving in such an out-of-the-way place. But I recognise it's probably well down on the "Things to decide on" list. sanahtlig, Zodai, Keaton and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaguya Posted May 31, 2015 Share Posted May 31, 2015 It's how my suggestion originally went, but Tay is a meanie who won't do it *grumble grumble* Eclipsed and Mr Poltroon 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanahtlig Posted May 31, 2015 Share Posted May 31, 2015 I think this is a good idea, and could actually help cut down on forum spam. Who knows, the Coliseum of Chatter might suddenly become a barren wasteland after this. Whether you like chatter or don't like spam, I see no reason not to support this. Eclipsed and Mr Poltroon 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eclipsed Posted May 31, 2015 Author Share Posted May 31, 2015 I wont give a good reason for why not. but no thanks to me. *im a rebel* I'll accept 'Because Lewy said no thanks' :3 My worry would be unnecessarily increase on the load time every time you want to go to the forum index. Stop using Dial Up Jk, a valid concern indeed. ~~ Did Tay give any reasons to @Marie-hime and @Rooke for why no main forum / index? Overload servers, aesthetically unpleasing, etc.? Emi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lewycool Posted May 31, 2015 Share Posted May 31, 2015 I'll accept 'Because Lewy said no thanks' :3 We're a team Anyway I just feel it's good where it is, don't see any reason to change it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Poltroon Posted May 31, 2015 Share Posted May 31, 2015 We're a team Anyway I just feel it's good where it is, don't see any reason to change it Indeed. Why the hell would we have a shoutbox somewhere visible? That would, like, give it purpose or something. We like this mostly dead shoutbox where only a select group of members occasionally participate in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lewycool Posted May 31, 2015 Share Posted May 31, 2015 Indeed. Why the hell would we have a shoutbox somewhere visible? That would, like, give it purpose or something. We like this mostly dead shoutbox where only a select group of members occasionally participate in. Welp I was against the creation of the chat box. And it is visible Do you want to make a headline in comic sans (with font size 72) and say "come to the chat box, I'm lonely"? I'm sure that would attract a few people It's visible enough. If people wanted to use it they would. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nosebleed Posted May 31, 2015 Share Posted May 31, 2015 I think the word you're looking for is "quickly accessible" rather than "visible". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lewycool Posted May 31, 2015 Share Posted May 31, 2015 I think the word you're looking for is "quickly accessible" rather than "visible". I think two hyper-links is enough.... There no point trying to force something to be used when no one is even using it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanahtlig Posted May 31, 2015 Share Posted May 31, 2015 Getting rid of Today's Birthdays would free up plenty of space. Actually, there's already plenty of space below the Coliseum of Chatter on the index page. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tay Posted May 31, 2015 Share Posted May 31, 2015 Did Tay give any reasons to @Marie-hime and @Rooke for why no main forum / index? Overload servers, aesthetically unpleasing, etc.? Don't think I ever laid out my reasoning publicly, so here were the three reasons why I took it off the index footer/index sidebar: It looks kinda crappy, imo My technical know-how is limited and I wasn't sure what effect it would have for people with crappy bandwidth (like me right now!) I wasn't sure what strain that would put on the server (remember: the shoutbox was implemented before the server move, so this was a major concern). If Nay say's it won't be a big deal, I'd be okay adding it temporarily to the index footer -- but only for users who are logged in. We get >11k users each day, and loading that shoubox every time just has to be a heavy load.... but I don't know that myself, I"m just making an assumption. Nay's call. EDIT: As computer power isn't infinite, my priority is/will probably always be keeping site features running smoothly. Changes are cool as long as they don't start impacting the larger, more important site software. Darklord Rooke and sanahtlig 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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