[Hun]Lepto
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Aren't moege eroges mostly liked, because you can fuck the embodiment of cute girls?
On a serious note, I think moeges are simply more likeable, because the characters have more time to grow on the reader and anime clichés are usually avoided or resolved in a more satisfying/actually funny way (not that there can't be any). And those who are interested in slice of life aswell are more fulfilled than with an anime that rushes slice of life scenes to fill the timelength.
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8 hours ago, Dreamysyu said:
Sure, but 3D games are a lot more popular. Comparing them to manga and light novels, VNs are a lot more expensive to make. Anime are even more expensive, but they are typically based on existing stories from the other media that are already popular enough, while most VNs are original. Also, manga and LNs are usually episodic (or, otherwise, very short) so the publishers can get some invested money back relatively soon, while in case of VNs they typically have to make a full product first, and then if it works then it works.
With that logic, true. I always felt that non-episodic VNs do take quite a risk by having every budget go into it.
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8 hours ago, Dreamysyu said:
And VNs are also expensive to make, so they don't allow for much flexibility.
I thought VNs were far cheaper and easier to make than normal 3D games (that is, if they don't have complex gameplay elements).
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On 10/6/2020 at 10:30 AM, littleshogun said:
It's surprisingly hard to recommend very normal slice of life (ie no strange thing, overpowered ninja girl, or supernatural) VNs, but let me try here. For my recommendations, I would say that you should try Konosora, Noble Works, Umikana, Making Lovers, Wagahigh, and Fureraba. I know that most of those are already in your wishlist, but I guess it won't hurt to recommend it once again. I hope my recommendations here will be helpful to you.
Even pointing out the more normal ones is good for me as I know if someone liked them, I can expect some quality from them. Thanks.
Though with Wagahigh, I found the plot and the characters a bit too generic (aside from Ashe), so I don't think I'm gonna really continue, I was satisfied with Ashe's route alone, I did find many other elements boring though.
Making Lovers and Fureraba are still something I'm debating about playing, because I personally don't feel comfortable with self-insert protagonists (and from what I heard, they have exactly that). Even during Wagahigh and Totono, those few obvious self-insert elements here and there made me uncomfortable
Spoiler(though it was easier later with Totono, because there was an actual reason for that).
I like VNs more when they treat me more like an observer rather than trying to put me in as a character unless there's a reason for that. I'm holding them on my wishlist though, because I heard alot of positive feedback from it, I might read them one day.
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6 hours ago, joshopit said:
-Yoake Mae yori Ruri Iro na
-A sky full of stars
-Atri -my dear moments- (It's a nakige but it has slice of life moments too)
-Dracu riot
-Sanoba Witch
-Air
-Sankaku Renai: Love Triangle Trouble
-My fair princess
-Hello, goodbye
-DA CAPO series
-Japanese School Life
-Kanon
-Kyuuketsuki no Libra
-NinNinDays
-If my heart had wings
-Making lovers
-Sekai de Ichiban Dame na Koi
-Crescendo ~Eien da to Omotte Ita Ano Koro~
-Summer Pockets
Some of these have supernatural elements though. I'm interested in slice of life VNs that don't really have a bizarre plot.
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5 hours ago, Dreamysyu said:
Hmmm. Come to think of it, yeah, I'm being an idiot again.
Meh, to this, I'd rather say that it all depends on just how much supernatural stuff are focused on. Also, still not sure about reading a yuri VN, though I will plan reading it (which is why it's in my wishlist).
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I have been pretty lacklustery with reading VNs nowadays, but I'm slowly gaining back my interest. I plan on completing Higurashi Question Arcs (or atleast Watanagashi-hen, it's hard to hold my interest, because I have seen the Deen anime already) and Kemono Musume no Sodataketa, but after that, I haven't fully decided on what I read. But when I was watching slice of life scenes, I got interested in a normal slice of life VN. Basically, what I'm talking about is a slice of life VN with no supernatural stuff or strange situations or overpowered ninja girls. I'm basically interested in a slice of life that would basically fit YOUR image of slice of life. Feel free to also look through the wishlist I have on VNDB.
Requirements: english or hungarian translated, the protagonist has a personality and actually matters more than just self-inserting purposes, have it be a charage, no nakige or utsuge, 18+ is not really required, but I do think of it as a nice bonus.
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12 hours ago, Jardic47 said:
I have it as well, but I haven't played though it as of yet. The only way to get it is to get a torrent of it and it is a pain in the ass to get the right one.
Fate/Stay Night English Download in Google, click on the nblog link and voila, you have a perfect copy of Fate/Stay Night with some fixes written down aswell to make it work on your foreigner computer. Though, I do recommend searching for the Ultimate Edition patch aswell, because it adds quite alot of nice features (however, be prepared that it can be unstable a bit).
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12 hours ago, aradii said:
Yes, I've seen the whole fate series and archer is my favorite character
, but I didn't know the fate has the novel! Thanks for the recommendation.
Well, if you can still be interested in it, feel free to read it, it's much better than the anime mainly, because the anime couldn't adapt Shirou's inner dialogues, the Fate route and the various talks about different views. Just be ready for some boring slice of life scenes here and there, especially at the beginning, because it starts really slowly.
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21 hours ago, Nandemonai said:
Localization companies have a lot of constraints. The business requires co-operation with the Japanese side of things. No game can be released without the consent and involvement of the rights holders. The Japanese IP holder can't just sign on the dotted line and take easy royalty money. They have to do work. Legal work, chasing down VA contract clearance. Graphics work, uncensoring the artwork and finding original assets. Programming work, updating the game engine to handle incompatibilities with Western OS default settings and the fact that Western languages use characters that, in Japanese, nobody ever uses so you're free to use things like apostrophes and commas as game scripting commands.
Witness Kara no Shoujo and Koihime initially releasing with no VA because they couldn't afford to pay the VA fees. Witness a certain game I know of not ever getting an editing pass to fix issues, even though company staff privately admitted to me they wanted to - because the Japanese side didn't want to give the localizer their script compiler, and didn't want to be bothered because they'd already provided one fix and seemed to feel 'why jerk us around fixing one thing at a time'? Witness Pulltop, releasing Princess Waltz under Jast USA (great game by the way) then deciding to start MoeNovel. Or Jast USA getting Steins;Gate but not being the ones to release it on Steam, or anything else by them. Navel pulled out of a partnership with MangaGamer to release Shuffle! on Steam all by themselves.
The licensors have a lot of pull, and they absolutely will use it. And the truth is, VNs sell a truly pitiful number of copies in English. Koihime had no VA because they didn't think the game could sell two thousand copies. It eventually did, after close to two years. After they decided to cheat a bit and include the size of their hard copy print run in the 2K (assuming it would eventually sell through) because they didn't want to do a hard copy release of it with no voice. Things are somewhat better if your game can get on Steam, but after Steam opened the floodgates suddenly there's lots of games on Steam and so few nowadays get the eye-popping sales figures IMHHW or Nekopara did once upon a time.
So even though sales are declining slowly but steadily in Japan, as mobile inexorably cannibalizes everything else people used to spend money on, they're still - even far removed from what they used to be at the peak, like they are nowadays - still far higher than they are in English. This makes it a tough sell for most companies.
Thanks for the detailed explanation.
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Sorry, I fucked up my title and excluded the localization companies. Only realized later after reading the comments. I actually meant the localization companies aswell.
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When I scrolled through some visual novels on VNDB that didn't have a translation yet, I always thought some of them look so generic anyway that they don't even seem to have any unique factor. I know there are plenty of untranslated visual novels that are labeled as masterpieces, but are the current translator groups good at choosing what visual novels to translate in the opinion of someone who plays both japanese and english ones?
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It's strangely effective for me, like probably 60-70% of the VNs on my wishlist are probably from that.
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4 hours ago, Plk_Lesiak said:
Welcome to Fuwanovel! Sci-fi is kind of underutilised in VNs, it'll be interesting to check out your project.
That does remind me that I should maybe reignite my interest in Sci-fi by looking for a Sci-fi VN.
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5 hours ago, rimvydasm said:
You don't need a walktrough for this game,just give points to and choose the girl you like for her route.
Appearently, some people still don't want to use that 0.001% of their brain for moeges.
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7 hours ago, ShinRaikdou said:
Do you mean fan remakes/remaster projects? Of course they'll put an end to them since it's potential money loss. It's not like Nintendo plan to release and sell 18+ patches.
Not always, since some projects require you to buy the original game first. Also, yeah, if we think about it, 18+ patches don't really hurt their sales. But again, it would probably put a bad look on them if someone was to play an eroge in public while a sex scene happens, especially if it would be in something like news or something.
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13 hours ago, ShinRaikdou said:
There is already decent amount of 18+ patches and nude mods for games (even Nintendo one, like SSBU, AC or Pokemon). Nintendo doesn't care about it.
Strange, because they're mostly known for tracking down mods and projects and putting an end to them. Though again, it could be just that they don't really know about it yet.
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Now you can listen to the cultured eroge moanings even in group of people.
Jokes aside, all I fear is Nintendo somehow finding about this and tracking it down. You must be careful with these projects, because it probably violates their rules. Also, they must be angry if people will show obscene scenes on their platform.
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2 hours ago, Zakamutt said:
I must learn japanese language solely for this masterpiece.
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2 hours ago, Palas said:
Now if there was a VN in which the heroine actually has feelings that can change based on how you treat her, and if there was another person that threatened the relationship by virtue of simply being a better match based on the heroine's feelings, we might be onto something. But that never happens, so.
Not until japanese soyboys fear competition for a girl (or the companies being afraid that they might lose some readers with a function like that) while many relationships rely on getting a partner earlier than the others.
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1 minute ago, adamstan said:
And if my eyes don't deceive me, previous default theme is "Spectrum" one. (Or it's the one I've been using so long that I started to think about it as a default one
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Yeah, seems like that for me too, that's good for me.
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3 hours ago, Mr Poltroon said:
On the bottom left, you may find the available themes. Infinite Stomach is a dark theme.
Ahh, my bad, didn't see it before. Thanks alot.
How do you handle SOL scenes in serious VNs?
in Visual Novel Talk
Posted · Edited by [Hun]Lepto
Right now, I'm reading G-senjou no Maou and honestly, I remembered that I personally don't know how to feel about comedy relief scenes. I can't turn off my brain and enjoy good ol' slice of life after the serious plot made me interested and I can't feel serious about it when even the dialogue sometimes makes me crack up a bit. They just give a swirl of confusing feelings in me, especially when there's an underlying conflict between the characters that doesn't get brought up. With some other VNs, I didn't have this, but this VN do makes me feel like that.