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I just realized I’d like to read stories where self-love plays a core role in it. The closest I’ve seen in VNs was Shizune’s route in Katawa Shoujo, but you guys have pointed flaws on it. And since you are so knowledgeable, I want recommendations for better routes or VNs with this theme.
It can be of any genre. Can also be untranslated. No rape though. And I want at least one good ending in the route/VN.
Thank you!
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My five favourite VN protagonists so far would be:
5) Hisao Nakai from Katawa Shoujo. He’s fifth because some routes have him behave differently than others. I personally enjoyed the one we see in Shizune’s route (seriously, stop attacking those that like her!), but the one in Hanako’s route caters to different people than me, whereas the one in Rin and Emi’s routes is hard to like. As a result, I’ll just say there are better protagonists than him.
4) Syouko Osanai from Aoishiro. For me, she’s better than Emiya Shirou, as she’s way smarter and has more personality.
3) Shirou Emiya from FSN. The only reason I consider him better than Syouko is his badassery in Heavens Feel. Even though I don’t like Sakura as a heroine. .-.
2) Shiki Toono from Tsukihime. Much better than Shirou, with interesting powers and better personality.
1) Yuu Atou from Narcissu. Tragic protagonist, from a VN that still keeps it’s beauty even today. Just the way I like it.
Would add Guy from Sekien no Inganock for the first place, but since I have yet to finish the VN, I won’t do it.
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Yes, I love the game. In fact, I’m currently using the Japanese translation as my first serious attempt to read in Japanese. I’m not sure if it’s fine to read translations instead of Japanese VNs for actual learning of the language though.
On 29/5/2020 at 3:33 PM, Plk_Lesiak said:I'm, strangely enough, in the process of slowly going through Katawa Shoujo for the first time... But I'm already pretty sure nothing's going to beat Hanako route for me, and Hanako as a heroine. While I think Lily's is plenty enjoyable, it just didn't have the same impact and strong theme. Seeing parts of Shizune's route now, I like its flow and the kind of ambivalent character Shizune herself is. I wonder if something is going to make me hate her like so many people do later on...
I hate to break it for most people, but I actually prefer Shizune over Hanako, perhaps because I finished Hanako’s route with her bad ending, which to be honest, was actually more interesting than her good ending, and also because she embodied in my mind the kind of personality I don’t want to have nor see in people I would meet. I’m not sure what did you found appealing of her, but for me, it felt much like I was a psychologist rather than a boyfriend, up to the point I seriously wanted to end this quickly, no matter the cost.
In short, she’s a awesome friend and a terrible girlfriend.
Regarding Shizune, I guess you need to finish the route in order to understand her. Unlike Hanako, you are supposed to learn to love yourself in order to love Shizune, which is essentialy the opposite people often expect for other heroines. I believe people fail to bond with other people because they hate themselves. Aside from Shzune, and Emi to a certain extent, no other route actually pointed this.
For me, feeling in an equal relationship feels better than healing the other in my relationship.
However, this is just my opinion. I don’t expect people to suddenly change their minds, to be honest.
I have a headcanon regarding her unpopularity, but it requires spoilers to understand it, so I will end my rant here.
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Late to answer, but thank you all for your recommendations.
Guess I'll try Karenai Sekai, inspiration seems to be what I am looking for.
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I love challenges and dreaming, so…
Reaching JLPT N1.
Attempt to become a teacher.
Getting better at social life.
Try to read more books.
Start my own podcast.
Becoming a writer.
Learn a bit about VN programming. And making one, if I can.
Try to read 50 VNs or more. (I’m currently at 31 non-dropped VNs)
Be able to read a good Caramel Box VN. We need something more than the first Otoboku.
Owning a better PC. My current one really needs an upgrade.
Seeing more twists in VNs (more disabled characters, more environmental themes, more unique settings...)
Bonus: Making our environment great again.
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It’s been several months since I felt so depressed, so I want to change and since I haven’t played any VN in this period, I will ask your help.
I’m looking for a VN where the protagonist has an altruistic behaviour and mindset.
Preferently with the following requirements:
1) Protagonist must actually do something to help others. Merely showing a positive stance is not enough.
2) If there are multiple endings, the true one must show the protagonist succeding in his/her quest. Bad Endings must always be optional.
3) No yaoi/yuri endings/routes. Sorry, but due to personal circunstances, I cannot stomach yaoi nor yuri.
4) If possible, no rape within the VN. Another thing that hurts my self-esteem.
5) I’m fine with Japanese VNs, though I don’t mind EVNs.
Looking forward for your suggestions.
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2 hours ago, Captain Van Carmel said:
Hello Neko pie!
That's so amazing another artist here, I am okay with it.
Spanish is my native language too XD & thank you., empezare ahora con el español... No se que significa enviar un PM, me podrías decir?
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Disculpa por responder un poco tarde.
PM en inglés significa "Private Message", que significa "mensaje privado". Se usa para referirse a un chat privado, que Fuwanovel te permite hacer. De todos modos, no te preocupes, te lo abro yo.
Como sea, este es un foro en idioma inglés, asi que podemos seguir nuestra conversación por ahí.
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Welcome to Fuwa!
I also wanted to create a VN, but since I’m currently busy with university, I couldn’t study about it.
I prefer writing things, since I never bothered to draw, but we can be friends if you want. Send me a PM if you are fine with it.
Also, can you speak Spanish? If so, we can use it, since it’s my native language.
Hope you enjoy your stay here!
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I know it’s a bit overrated, but when I played Katawa Shoujo, I got emotionally attached to it for several reasons.
First, because I have a developmental disability which forced me to take medication every day. At first I was sad that this will destroy my already scarce interactions with people, but after I saw the protagonist managing to bond with the girls, I realized that this is by no means the worst thing that could happen to me, and I begun to have faith in humanity.
Second, I wasn’t interested into mainstream media, and this gave me an escape to the norms I was supposed to follow.
And I know this will sound weird, but even though this is an American VN, I was sick of most mainstream movies, since I found most of them are extremely violent (when I started the game), so KS showed that there is an alternative to the “American way of life” of becoming happy. As my mother said when we where in a cultural festival, “you see most American movies filled with death and violence, whereas you enjoy something that is more peaceful”.
Sorry for not bringing anything else, university and a severe block stopped me from actualy enjoying another VN, let alone try an untranslated one.
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I haven’t watched anime nor read manga when I started playing VNs, so they were my introduction to Japanese pop culture. So seeing a different experience than the one I had in my country was really positive, albeit I had to suffer a lot to get less shy later on.
It helps that I choosed Katawa Shoujo as my first VN, since I suffered a mental disorder ever since my childhood, so I was able to relate to Hisao and accept myself the way I am.
Also I was able to go to a convention one year ago, and even meet a girl interested in Japanese pop culture, whom I talked about some VNs. Unfortunately I wasn’t able to take her to a date, but it was one of the best experiences I had so far.
And lastly, VNs led me to study Japanese, just like most of you. While I didn’t get along with my then-classmates, I found interesting people to talk about random stuff, even though none of them so far know what a VN is.
As far as I can think, the only downside I found is that I don’t find a lot of interest in anime and I couldn’t find a book I’d like to read so far. Guess I’ll need to ask book recommendations somewhere...
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While it was more of a general question, I was mainly planning to hack the Kashimashi ~Girl meets Girl~ VN , mostly because I loved the anime and I'm reading the manga. As far as I went, it doesn't have any gameplay, besides choice selection. However, sprites are animated to allow lip sync.
As for it's encryption format, it uses .afs files and .sfd files. AE can extract .afs files perfectly, but not .sfd. Scripts are in a SC.AFS file, so it can be technically translated without the entire porting stuff. They have .obj format.
But still, thanks for answering my questions. Will keep them in mind in the future.
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I’ve been pondering a bit about my personal goals on Japanese learning, and I’ve found that one of them is to be able to translate VNs, since in my native language there are very few translated VNs. While I can play them in English, I have meet several people that cannot do it.
However, one of the things that has been stopping me from actively researching about VN translation is the hacking part of it. Namely, how to obtain and repack the scripts. In this forum I’ve read that succesful translation projects are lead by the translators, which is why I choosed to focus in the language. But when looking for VNs to translate, I’ve been worried about whether there are hacking tools for the VNs I was planning to translate (in a nearby future, since I still need to polish my Japanese reading), since they are either console VNs, such as Akai Ito and a couple of PS2 VNs; or they are made into very old engines that might not support special characters, like the ones present in Spanish, my native language.
After browsing through the Sakura no Kisetsu VN porting thread, I’ve been pondering about whether porting VNs to a new engine (be it Ren’Py or something else) would be a good idea for translation purposes.
What do you think about it? Is it hard to port a VN to a new engine? What does it take to be able to pull it out successfully?
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Sometime ago, I heard about Abema TV, which seems to be a internet TV station of Japan. Since I never have tried watching Japanese TV, I figured out I shall try it out.
But there is a problem: the service is restricted to Japan and I failed to find a VPN that lets me bypass georestrictions.
In particular, I'm worried about free VPNs, which are the ones I must use. I heard a rumor that such VPNs are actually gathering personal data. Is this true or it is a scam?
Does someone else here tried Abema TV already? Any advice?
Thanks
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Different people have different ways to learn something, so my advice is to figure out which method works the best for you.
Some people need visual cues to learn something, some people need to listen to it, and some others need to put in practice what they are learning to understand it. There may be more ways to learn something than the ones I've listed.
If you manage to understand your personal way to learn, apply it to Japanese and you will progress.
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This happened to me two times. The first one was with FSN, where I only managed to read a fraction of the Fate route before I dropped it. Then one year later, I reread it, skipping what I've already read and managed to finish it for once.
The next one was Eien no Aselia, which I dropped after getting a silly game over, only for me to try it again later and finish it.
Then there are VNs I dropped without me reattempting to read so far. Most of them were either nukige or VNs I couldn't enjoy, regardless of how many time I invested into them (Daibanchou, G senjou and Kamidori). The only exception so far is Rose Guns Days, due to its episodic nature (I only read the first season so far) and me having to prioritize other things in RL.
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My choices are:
1) Katawa Shoujo
This was my first VN, so I enjoyed most of it, but there was one route I found very special for me.
While I agree that Shizune’s route is not that great, it was memorable for me since I unlocked Hanako’s bad ending beforehand, so I was needing to read something not so dark. As such, I greatly enjoyed most of what happened there.
SpoilerWell, excepting Misha’s reveal. I strongly believe that’s what ruined the route for me.
Hisao’s interactions with Shizune were so memorable, I was crying a lot by the time I got her good ending. People may say whatever they want about her, but this is what made me love her route.
2) Otome wa Boku ni Koishiteru
The entire game can be memorable if you thought a man that crossdress is gay. This VN, on the other hand, proofs that a even in such a situation, you can find a woman that loves you.
And if that’s not enough, I finished the game with Shion’s route, which was arguably the best route. Its ending was a awesome way to finish such a VN.
3) Aoishiro
I believe the ending theme speaks by itself. Definitely one of the greatest ending themes ever, not just in VNs.
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Sorry for the late reply.
Studying in a Japanese school is very slow, but there are some advantages to it. You can meet people that might have interest in the language, which might be useful if you feel lonely. Also, you can ask questions to your teacher, something very hard to do with self-study. Lastly, if you are not sure about which is your best way to study, you might find some short-term progress, which you will need to keep yourself motivated to study.
But remember, you will progress slowly. In my case, I had to wait three years in order to take JLPT N5, when you can do it faster with self-study.
My advice is, try it out, but go preparing yourself for when you have to leave classes. I suggest this:
1) Search for private Japanese teachers where you live. They often progress at your pace, letting you go faster.
2) Should this fail, try entering the Japanese school. Wait until the first class ends, and after everyone left, try to ask your teacher if he/she can contact a private teacher for you. I did this and managed to skip a year until passing N4.
The content you will study in a Japanese school changes depending of the school and the teacher. There are several textbooks that schools might use.
I will give you some tips later. For now, I will wait your message.
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7 minutes ago, nekofuwafuwa said:
Hi again,
Haha, I want to play Aoishiro exactly because of the multiple bad endings and mystery! I don't mind much the romance on this one so everything is good.
What you didn't like about Forest? I still have to play this one. And if you don't mind fantasy settings and somewhat poetry-like dialogues you should check Inganock. Although I'm not sure if you will enjoy since I haven't played Forest and cannot say if they are similar...
I'm also studying japanese. If you want we can share materials to study one day. I'm trying to read Hoshizora no Memoria in Japanese now, but it is hard to keep yourself motivated in your first VN's since it takes much longer to read...
And please forgive-me if asking this is rude, but are you perhaps a girl? I saw one post of you saying that you are writing an Otome scenario for Katawa Shoujo and that got me curious. Since I'm also a girl and I find kinda rare to know other girls that enjoy Visual Novels (Besides Otomege!) It's always nice to find another girl in the same hobby. (And if you aren't, sorry!)
But anyway, have a nice week! And enjoy Enigma, I need to play this one later too!
I'm glad you find Aoishiro enjoyable.
What I didn't like about Forest was that it's very difficult to understand where the game was heading to. I dropped it in the fifth chapter, which is where the game boasts a lot of choices. The game lets you restart a chapter whenever you get a bad ending, but depending of your previous choices, the correct answer will change. I found very bothersome to read the walkthrough, since it assumes you do a very specific set of choices, hence why I ended up dropping it.
I have some interest on Inganock, though. Maybe once I finish Enigma, I will check it.
As for sharing our Japanese materials, you're welcome. I study in a Japanese school, so my method may vary from yours. But since I need some help to make it better, I'll apreciate it.
By the way, did you played Hoshizora no Memoria in English beforehand? Sometimes reading the original after reading a translation may help you, since (assuming a good translation) you will already know how will unfold the story, letting you focus on more subtle things (kanji puns, kotowaza, and so on).
Unfortunately, I'm a guy. But don't worry, you can talk to me about VNs. Just keep in mind I don't play BL VNs, since I found its concept of romance to be... too irrealistic, when not outright fucked up.
As for my otome take on KS, it's a long story, so send me a message if you want.
Have a nice week!
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55 minutes ago, AustriaVNFan said:
How comes you stalled this game even though you liked it so much?
And btw. you can also not just rate in whole numbers. If you choose 'Other' you can type in more fitting values (like 7.5, only 1 number after the dot possible but it still helped me a lot)
Two years ago (which is when I was playing RGD) I was slacking too much with my university tasks, so I needed to focus on them. As a result, I stopped playing VNs until 2 months ago, and I've already choosed Enigma to play.
Neverthless, I changed it to "Playing" since I plan to resume it eventually.
Thank you for the tip. I'll check whether some VNs' votes must be changed.
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I have a doubt that I need to ask, since I don’t know a better place to ask it.
Before starting, I must confess something: I have very low empathy for LGBT characters in manga and anime. I didn’t want to admit it, since I enjoyed reading Aoishiro, Kashimashi and Pulse, but it’s the truth.
I’m currently writing a Katawa Shoujo fanfic, where I reimaginate the game as an otome game, focusing on Iwanako and five male love interests. But there is a problem:
SpoilerI hate Misha. I hate her so much that halfway through the fanfic I plan to have her commit suicide.
It’s just I loved Hisao’s personality during Shizune’s route, so to find that the entire route was all Misha’s fault pissed me off a lot.
Not going to lie, I believe that Lilly and Shizune’s dispute was because Misha was leading her into a toxic relationship that isolated her from everyone, so that nobody aside from her can be with Shizune.
Somewhat similar was what I felt after finishing Corpse Party Blood Covered.
SpoilerI felt Naomi’s actions through the entire game were so forced, I couldn’t take her depression seriously. Sure, she might be scared that her best friend was killed, but I believe that what killed her was a evil Naomi from another dimension (the one from the PC98 game, for example), since she doesn’t recall in the game to have meet Seiko before finding her hanged in the bathroom.
And for those that claim that she was darkened: she would then have been darkened TWO times (one for when she splitted from Seiko and another one before meeting Satoshi, not counting the one she gets after watching the TV in the final chapter). I find it unbelievable that she can awake so many times from the darkening.
My issue is that these two characters are so popular, I don’t feel like talking about these games. I loved Shizune’s route, yet I can’t withstand how people like to portrait the characters as mentally unstable, and the focus that the route took in the end pissed me off more than any other route I’ve played later on. In the same way, I don’t want to keep playing the Corpse Party series if it’s going to be all around Seiko.
I might add Yuki Ashikaga from Cross Days, but I never played (nor I want to play) the game, so I’ll refrain from that.
So, is there a character everyone loves, yet you can’t withstand? I’d like to hear opinions.
Thank you
(PS: I’m not a English-speaking person, so if there is a mistake, help me correcting it)
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It all started in 2014 after finishing Otoboku. I loved the VN so much that I've attempted to read the sequel untraslated, merely relying on a hiragana/katakana guide and ITH. I couldn't pass the second line, so I ended up choosing to study in a Japanese school so that one day I can finally read untranslated VNs.
So far I have JLPT N4, but I haven't read untranlated VNs after that attempt. I'm planning to resume reading the VN soon.
But besides Otoboku, I also want to read other VNs. Most of the ones I really want to read are the ones from Caramel Box, and there are Atlach=Nacha, Sanzen Sekai Yuugi and Secret Game. I might ask recommendations for JOVNs sooner or later.
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10 minutes ago, nekofuwafuwa said:
Don't worry, I also always switch between hobbies (or am just busy with University), so I haven't read a lot of VNs too, altought I discovered them in 2012~2013
Ah! You played some interesting titles. I just found out that Aoishiro was translated recently and almost never see anyone talking about it, do you recommend it? The synopsis really got me interested but I have such a long backlog to play already
I also don't see many people talking about Rose Guns Days. I wonder why? But it is another title that I really want to play.
My favorite titles are Sekien no Inganock, Saya no Uta and good Nakige games. I also enjoy playing Touhou, although I still have to finish playing all the games (and I suck on it). But I mostly enjoy besides Visual Novels, playing action RPG's, Simulation games and J-Games in general.
You definitely should create a VNDB account. Is a great way to keep in order what you want to play and what you've already finished.
1) It really depends on the person... I think that everyone has a different personal voting system in their heads, so it's hard to say. For me, I tend to be literal with the voting descriptions names. For example 8 in VNDB is named (Very Good), 7 is (Good) and 6 is (Decent). But I think that nobody besides me really use it that literally. I also might have enjoyed a lot more than the grade that I gave to a VN, but because of X reason, I felt like it didn't deserved a higher note or it was missing something...
But I hope that other people can also answer your question, because I'm really not the best one to give it an answer.
2) There is a option to select if you dropped a game or stalled it, so just select that if you need. You can also insert a comment to explain why of that situation.
Good luck in your studies! If you want, you can share with us what motivated you to study. (Or what untranslated VN titles
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I also discovered VNs in 2012, and just like you, I'm also busy with university.
In regards to Aoishiro, it's been almost 10 years since it got translated, and I played it more or less in 2015. I do recommend it, although you will found very little romance in it. Its multiple endings and its supernatural elements were what interested me (alongside my interest on yuri, which unfortunately has lowered with time).
I also wonder why RGD gets so low attention. I loved its plot and artstyle (the art was the main reason I choosed over the When They Cry VNs). Maybe its skippable gameplay was the issue, if you play with the highest possible score, it will eventually force you to use the spacebar to skip the gameplay.
I've played Saya no Uta, even before knowing who is Gen Urobuchi, and it's indeed good. I havent played Sekien no Inganock, though, since Forest somewhat drove me away from Liar-soft VNs. Maybe one day I might try it.
Touhou requires time and effort to be played well. I passed from barely beating EoSD to get a Hard 1cc in IN with YuyuMyon. It was my most glorious victory so far.
I've already created and filled my VNDB account, so you can now see what I've played so far.
I have to go shopping. When I return, I will tell you my resons to study Japanese
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6 hours ago, AustriaVNFan said:
Hello and welcome here
This is quite an easy-going forum so you should enjoy it.
About your VNDB account... do you already have one and don't know how to link it here? Or do you not know how to create one on VNDB?
I didn't had time to create one, but it's ready. I just need to figure how to add VNs to it.
Speaking of the which,
1) Which is the best way to decide my vote? From what I saw, my vote seems to be from 1 to 10.
2) What about dropped VNs? And VNs I only played partially, and dropped without getting 100% completed.
EDIT: Nevermind, now I figured out how to vote. There is also an option for dropped VNs. Thank you.
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7 hours ago, nekofuwafuwa said:
Hello user with similar name as mine!
What are your favorite titles or other things that you have played? Six years is a long time.
Welcome and have fun!
Well, I've been alternating between reading VNs and other activities, such as Japanese learning. As a result, I might spend some months without reading anything.
As for my favorite titles, if we talk about VNs, they are:
Aoishiro
Corpse Party - Blood Covered (I prefer the PC98 version for reasons I will reveal in my next topic)
FSN
Katawa Shoujo
Otome wa Boku ni Koishiteru (I really want to read the sequel, although I haven't took it seriously yet)
Rose Guns Days (I've only played the first season, but I plan to read the next ones)
Tsukihime
(Now that I think about it, I wonder how should I create my VNDB account, and its VN list.)
For games, I mostly play the Touhou games and occasionally other danmaku games.
Also, I'm surprised there was someone else with this name. Guess I'll need an image. (Once I know how to add one)
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The MC. I doubt there are heroines that contain this theme, although I'll welcome it if you know some.