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    Thyndd got a reaction from LemiusK in youtube - Most random   
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    Thyndd got a reaction from LemiusK in An Unintentional Return   
    And 6 years later, people are still shitting on SAO. Some things never change huh 
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    Thyndd got a reaction from LemiusK in What are you playing?   
    Thank God. 
    I would say it actually is around 50 to 60 hours for most people. Did you keep track of the time? Otherwise it could be that you were so engrossed that time just flew by 
    It makes me sad that you didn't get what you expected from MLA. I know how harmful hype can be to one's experience, that's why I always try to keep it to a bare minimum, even with the so called and widely regarded as 'kamiges'. Oh well, I'm glad that at least you enjoyed the technical aspects. For a 2006 VN (and even by today's standards) it's freaking amazing. 
     
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    Thyndd reacted to LemiusK in What are you playing?   
    Just for that quote, welcome to the ignore list. I warned you.
    You can quote me however you want now, I don't give a shit. Not going to read your posts from now on.
    If any one else has something more meaningful to add, feel free. Otherwise, my ignore list is always open for troublemakers.
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    Thyndd reacted to adamstan in What are you playing?   
    Yesterday I finished rereading Princess Evangile (+ after stories from FD), to check all-ages version.
    It was almost as much fun as it was the first time, almost year ago - it felt a little like returning to visit good old friends
    TL;DR version:
       - best girl: Ritsuko
       - best route: Ayaka
       - best epilogue: Chiho (in FD)
    Under heavy moege disguise, there lies another VN with family as one of its main themes. In every route the conflict is caused by family issues.
    It's possible, that all-ages version made it all clearer to me, as I wasn't distracted by h-scenes (which were numerous in adult version - 5 per heroine, each consisting of two "acts". I didn't remember there being that many of them )
    PE has really great cast - both main heroines and side characters. Most of the Konomi's lines or Ruriko's comments are golden
    As for routes, I went with the order heroines are introduced - Rise, Chiho, Ritsuko, Ayaka. Chiho's route is kind-of stand alone, but it's connected with Rise's, so that order seems the best for me. Whatever, it's good to read Ayaka after Ritsuko.
    Rise is very nice girl, if a bit jealous Truly "sun of the school" I loved the scene in her route was when she
    That was really moving for me.
    Chiho gets bonus points for being childhood friend The scenes in common route (and in the beginning of hers) when she fights with Rise over Masaya are hilarious I also really liked caring side of her personality.
    Ritsuko - ah, Ritsuko, best girl according to many (myself included). On a surface, very serious and strict, but hidden underneath lies quite playful and sweet girl.
    I love how she gradually opens up in other routes as well.
    Ayaka - like her sister, hiding many surprises.
     
    Now let's talk specifically about All-ages edition. I was really curious how they handled it. It turns out to be somewhere between ASFOS and Sanoba Witch. All sex happens off-screen, but it's clear that it happens. However, some of the random scenes are just cut out - and it isn't noticeable, I was actually surprised by the amount of scenes when I skipped thru adult version to compare.
    First time in each route is handled similarly to Sanoba, meaning there's lead in, then black screen at the act itself, and then "cuddling (or morning) after". Introductions were slightly rewritten, and in case the scene in +18 didn't have the "after", it was added. So for each route there are new CGs for the first scene.
    In Rise's route, the lead-in is rewritten so Rise asks to take a shower. After she comes out we get CG of Rise wrapped in bath towel, then there's black out, and after that the cuddling scene that was present in adult version too.
    Beginning of Chihos first scene is handled in similar manner, so we also get her new bath CG (slightly NSFW - "steam censorship", but definitely most fanservicey among replacement CGs):
    She also gets absolutely cute new "morning after" scene, that wasn't present in adult version.
    In Ritsuko's route in the beginning there's new CG of her sitting on the bed, being a bit nervous. Masaya comforts her and then after blackout there's cuddling scene the same as in adult version.
    There's also replacement scene in bath later, where they just sit in the bath (Ritsuko wrapped in towel) and talk about various things.
    In case of Ayaka's route, in adult version there wasn't cuddling after scene, so it has been added (pretty nice, if you ask me):
    Also, similar to Ritsuko's route there's replacement scene in bath, where Ayaka in swimsuit washes protag's back.
    For other changes - in common route one SD CG was removed, and the scene with Konomi reading eromanga has been rewritten so she doesn't read it aloud.
    In Chiho's route rather explicit picture of the book they use for "studying" is replaced with the cover that reads "How to...". Also, the dialogue about creating martial arts club is moved from the night in the classroom (when there was random sex scene in adult version) to some other point later.
    In FD epilogues there are no replacement scenes (as in this case all-ages version was created by MG), instead there's just short description along the lines "and then we made love until the dawn" .
    All in all, it was really enjoyable version, and the lack of sex scenes didn't bother me - it was handled very well. It is much tamer than AA version of Sanoba, and a bit bolder than ASFOS.
    My score for the whole VN remains the same - 8.5/10, really enjoyed it.
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    Thyndd reacted to LemiusK in What are you playing?   
    Could you explain this rather inappropriate response?
    Honestly. I wish people wouldn't quote me at all if they're going to give me pointless replies like that. Saves me the trouble of clicking the notification. Really ticks me off. Just ignore my post if you're gonna reply like that again, m'kay?
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    Thyndd reacted to Riku in What are you playing?   
    Finally read Muv Luv and Alternative (which I don't understand why it's marked as 50+ hours when it's like 30+ hours, and I'm not really a fast reader).
    So, my overall disappointment for what many people overhyped aside, let's talk about the best point of both VNs: Sprite gimmicks.
    This is the most freaking amazing usage of the sprites I ever saw in a VN (well, not like I read that many anyway).
    Lips and eyes aside, the way the characters change expression and move during the conversation is good. The fact that they actually change their direction depending on who they talk to. The fact the characters you don't talk to also change their expression and even move in the background. The usage of the depth of the background. How cute Kasumi is when her rabbit ears move with a sfx.
    All these sprite gimmicks make the overall experience so alive and so much better that all the VNs I read so far (minus Bladr Sky, which is amazing in a different sense) feel like shit. And from now on the still sprites I'll see in all the VNs I'll read will feel really stale.
    I didn't read that much discussions about Muv luv, so I don't know if it's actually praised along the story and all, but I feel like it should be, because to me it's the most stand out point of the VNs and the only thing that actually left an impression on me.
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    Thyndd got a reaction from Kenshin_sama in An Unintentional Return   
    And 6 years later, people are still shitting on SAO. Some things never change huh 
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    Thyndd reacted to Kenshin_sama in An Unintentional Return   
    Nope, these troll posts are actually older than his channel, lol.
    Okay... time to go hang my head in shame for a while.
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    Thyndd reacted to Naterocks2000 in Have you ever read a VN in which one of the heroines was secretly depressed/traumatized/borderline suicidal etc., and while doing her route, you helped her get over the depression/come to terms with the trauma/find a reason to live?   
    Was going to quote somebody but felt what I was going to say was better off not in response to anybody. I said on here before that I have been in a relationship with someone who had depression, and it wasn't a lie. The feeling of having to worry about someone who is very mentally unstable and could opt to take their own life without you around is something I will never forget. That, at least compared to what I have read in either manga or VN form, has never been properly conveyed.
    As others in the thread have mentioned before, love cannot cure depression. It can make things much more bearable knowing that at least one person cares whether you are alive and breathing or six feet under. Sometimes, it may even lessen the impact depression has, though, I can't prove that but can base it on what she had said to me at times. In my experience, being close to somebody with depression leaves yourself vulnerable to feeling-like/becoming a victim to it. At times, the worry you feel, or anxiety can literally make you sick. In my case, I had really bad insomnia because I would worry she'd text me a goodbye letter or something of that nature, or when I was in her room I could easily find pills, razor blades, and other items that could cause serious bodily harm to her (Yes, she did go to a psychiatrist but nothing they gave really changed her besides making her into a vegetable for hours on end, and most of the time worsening her condition).
    It can really weather a person's mental state, both having depression and staying close to one with it. That's not to say depression is that person's fault or that they aren't worth caring for, hell I loved her and stayed with her for 7 years and wasn't the one that gave up on the relationship. The amount of times I thought I would never see her again, or that I would hear she was put into the hospital for attempting to end her life and the way it made me feel can only be described as agony. It is a trauma I don't like to think about, that is why Yume Miru Kusuri struck a chord in me when I played through it. 
    (Just wanted to say that it wasn't my intention to make this into a sob story of myself but more as a post of awareness about how depression can seriously impact people and their loved ones. Oh, and that the VN way of "MC love cures all" is bullshit and I wish more realistic depictions like mentioned previously in the thread were more frequently used.)
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    Thyndd got a reaction from LemiusK in So I grew tired of being an English pleb and I decided to do something about it asap   
    And I'm leaving this post behind for the record, so that if I were to shamefully give up in the future you can humiliate me and rub it in my face to your heart's content. Please do if I fail.
    Starting from today, I'm gonna be putting a very considerable amount of time and effort into learning moonspeak to a level where I can stop learning it deliberately and just progress as I use the language. 
    So, where's my current level at? Hard to say exactly, but let's see. I have a pretty comprehensive grammatical understanding of the language, but it's more on the linguistics side rather than the practical side. Not completely useless, since at least I won't have to beat my head against the wall trying to figure out how things work, but yeah. My active vocab is limited to the most basic day to day conversations. I know how to write the kanas and I should be able to at least recognize around 200 kanji with their meaning and hopefully some sample words.
    To sum it up, whilst I'm not starting from absolute zero, it's definitely still an early beginner level. So, what's gonna be my approach? Something that hopefully won't drive me to commit suicide, and the closest thing I've found to that that sounds like it could actually work, is the AJATT method, which is supposed to be an immersion based approach. You can read more about it on its website if you google it, but very briefly this is what it says:
    -First of all start off with Remembering the Kanji and learn all 2046 kanji and their meanings, without bothering with their readings. Use a SRS program like Anki to help you along the process.
    -Do not learn vocab. Learn full sentences in context instead. And not any sentences, but only those that could be considered "comprehensible input". That is, sentences where all you're lacking is one piece of vocab or grammar. Avoid sentences where you'd have to look up everything. Create Anki cards for those sentences, and at the beginning attach an English translation on the back, but don't go out of your way to try to memorize the translation: just focus on getting the meaning right and use the translation to check your understanding. Oh yeah, and the sentences won't have furigana, so you only know the flashcard if you are able to read it out loud, write it, and understand it.
    -As you get better you'll switch to 100% Japanese flashcards, describing every word in Japanese.
    -All this should be accompanied by frequent exposure to the language. Active exposure when possible. That means for example trying to listen carefully to movies and anime without subtitles and picking up on as much info as you can.
    And that's it. No magic involved, it just makes sense that it has to work if you are consistent. And with that said, I have some odd hundreds of kanji to learn, so I'll see you guys within 3 or 4 months, which is what I expect it to take me if I don't neglect my study. 
    Oh yeah, and in case someone got motivated while reading this, feel free to join in. The more, the merrier. It'd be by no means to be taken as a competition, but it's true that turning it into a group activity would have its benefits. It's much less likely to give up on something when you're doing it together with other people, that's for sure.
     
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    Thyndd got a reaction from Dreamysyu in So I grew tired of being an English pleb and I decided to do something about it asap   
    And I'm leaving this post behind for the record, so that if I were to shamefully give up in the future you can humiliate me and rub it in my face to your heart's content. Please do if I fail.
    Starting from today, I'm gonna be putting a very considerable amount of time and effort into learning moonspeak to a level where I can stop learning it deliberately and just progress as I use the language. 
    So, where's my current level at? Hard to say exactly, but let's see. I have a pretty comprehensive grammatical understanding of the language, but it's more on the linguistics side rather than the practical side. Not completely useless, since at least I won't have to beat my head against the wall trying to figure out how things work, but yeah. My active vocab is limited to the most basic day to day conversations. I know how to write the kanas and I should be able to at least recognize around 200 kanji with their meaning and hopefully some sample words.
    To sum it up, whilst I'm not starting from absolute zero, it's definitely still an early beginner level. So, what's gonna be my approach? Something that hopefully won't drive me to commit suicide, and the closest thing I've found to that that sounds like it could actually work, is the AJATT method, which is supposed to be an immersion based approach. You can read more about it on its website if you google it, but very briefly this is what it says:
    -First of all start off with Remembering the Kanji and learn all 2046 kanji and their meanings, without bothering with their readings. Use a SRS program like Anki to help you along the process.
    -Do not learn vocab. Learn full sentences in context instead. And not any sentences, but only those that could be considered "comprehensible input". That is, sentences where all you're lacking is one piece of vocab or grammar. Avoid sentences where you'd have to look up everything. Create Anki cards for those sentences, and at the beginning attach an English translation on the back, but don't go out of your way to try to memorize the translation: just focus on getting the meaning right and use the translation to check your understanding. Oh yeah, and the sentences won't have furigana, so you only know the flashcard if you are able to read it out loud, write it, and understand it.
    -As you get better you'll switch to 100% Japanese flashcards, describing every word in Japanese.
    -All this should be accompanied by frequent exposure to the language. Active exposure when possible. That means for example trying to listen carefully to movies and anime without subtitles and picking up on as much info as you can.
    And that's it. No magic involved, it just makes sense that it has to work if you are consistent. And with that said, I have some odd hundreds of kanji to learn, so I'll see you guys within 3 or 4 months, which is what I expect it to take me if I don't neglect my study. 
    Oh yeah, and in case someone got motivated while reading this, feel free to join in. The more, the merrier. It'd be by no means to be taken as a competition, but it's true that turning it into a group activity would have its benefits. It's much less likely to give up on something when you're doing it together with other people, that's for sure.
     
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    Thyndd got a reaction from Happiness+ in So I grew tired of being an English pleb and I decided to do something about it asap   
    And I'm leaving this post behind for the record, so that if I were to shamefully give up in the future you can humiliate me and rub it in my face to your heart's content. Please do if I fail.
    Starting from today, I'm gonna be putting a very considerable amount of time and effort into learning moonspeak to a level where I can stop learning it deliberately and just progress as I use the language. 
    So, where's my current level at? Hard to say exactly, but let's see. I have a pretty comprehensive grammatical understanding of the language, but it's more on the linguistics side rather than the practical side. Not completely useless, since at least I won't have to beat my head against the wall trying to figure out how things work, but yeah. My active vocab is limited to the most basic day to day conversations. I know how to write the kanas and I should be able to at least recognize around 200 kanji with their meaning and hopefully some sample words.
    To sum it up, whilst I'm not starting from absolute zero, it's definitely still an early beginner level. So, what's gonna be my approach? Something that hopefully won't drive me to commit suicide, and the closest thing I've found to that that sounds like it could actually work, is the AJATT method, which is supposed to be an immersion based approach. You can read more about it on its website if you google it, but very briefly this is what it says:
    -First of all start off with Remembering the Kanji and learn all 2046 kanji and their meanings, without bothering with their readings. Use a SRS program like Anki to help you along the process.
    -Do not learn vocab. Learn full sentences in context instead. And not any sentences, but only those that could be considered "comprehensible input". That is, sentences where all you're lacking is one piece of vocab or grammar. Avoid sentences where you'd have to look up everything. Create Anki cards for those sentences, and at the beginning attach an English translation on the back, but don't go out of your way to try to memorize the translation: just focus on getting the meaning right and use the translation to check your understanding. Oh yeah, and the sentences won't have furigana, so you only know the flashcard if you are able to read it out loud, write it, and understand it.
    -As you get better you'll switch to 100% Japanese flashcards, describing every word in Japanese.
    -All this should be accompanied by frequent exposure to the language. Active exposure when possible. That means for example trying to listen carefully to movies and anime without subtitles and picking up on as much info as you can.
    And that's it. No magic involved, it just makes sense that it has to work if you are consistent. And with that said, I have some odd hundreds of kanji to learn, so I'll see you guys within 3 or 4 months, which is what I expect it to take me if I don't neglect my study. 
    Oh yeah, and in case someone got motivated while reading this, feel free to join in. The more, the merrier. It'd be by no means to be taken as a competition, but it's true that turning it into a group activity would have its benefits. It's much less likely to give up on something when you're doing it together with other people, that's for sure.
     
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    Thyndd reacted to Zakamutt in So I grew tired of being an English pleb and I decided to do something about it asap   
    Reading Japanese visual novels with a text hooker is p useful for learning if it clicks for you:

    Additionally, if RtK1 doesn't fit you then it's pretty skippable.
    That said if the ajatt approach works for you then enjoy
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    Thyndd got a reaction from Dergonu in So I grew tired of being an English pleb and I decided to do something about it asap   
    And I'm leaving this post behind for the record, so that if I were to shamefully give up in the future you can humiliate me and rub it in my face to your heart's content. Please do if I fail.
    Starting from today, I'm gonna be putting a very considerable amount of time and effort into learning moonspeak to a level where I can stop learning it deliberately and just progress as I use the language. 
    So, where's my current level at? Hard to say exactly, but let's see. I have a pretty comprehensive grammatical understanding of the language, but it's more on the linguistics side rather than the practical side. Not completely useless, since at least I won't have to beat my head against the wall trying to figure out how things work, but yeah. My active vocab is limited to the most basic day to day conversations. I know how to write the kanas and I should be able to at least recognize around 200 kanji with their meaning and hopefully some sample words.
    To sum it up, whilst I'm not starting from absolute zero, it's definitely still an early beginner level. So, what's gonna be my approach? Something that hopefully won't drive me to commit suicide, and the closest thing I've found to that that sounds like it could actually work, is the AJATT method, which is supposed to be an immersion based approach. You can read more about it on its website if you google it, but very briefly this is what it says:
    -First of all start off with Remembering the Kanji and learn all 2046 kanji and their meanings, without bothering with their readings. Use a SRS program like Anki to help you along the process.
    -Do not learn vocab. Learn full sentences in context instead. And not any sentences, but only those that could be considered "comprehensible input". That is, sentences where all you're lacking is one piece of vocab or grammar. Avoid sentences where you'd have to look up everything. Create Anki cards for those sentences, and at the beginning attach an English translation on the back, but don't go out of your way to try to memorize the translation: just focus on getting the meaning right and use the translation to check your understanding. Oh yeah, and the sentences won't have furigana, so you only know the flashcard if you are able to read it out loud, write it, and understand it.
    -As you get better you'll switch to 100% Japanese flashcards, describing every word in Japanese.
    -All this should be accompanied by frequent exposure to the language. Active exposure when possible. That means for example trying to listen carefully to movies and anime without subtitles and picking up on as much info as you can.
    And that's it. No magic involved, it just makes sense that it has to work if you are consistent. And with that said, I have some odd hundreds of kanji to learn, so I'll see you guys within 3 or 4 months, which is what I expect it to take me if I don't neglect my study. 
    Oh yeah, and in case someone got motivated while reading this, feel free to join in. The more, the merrier. It'd be by no means to be taken as a competition, but it's true that turning it into a group activity would have its benefits. It's much less likely to give up on something when you're doing it together with other people, that's for sure.
     
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    Thyndd reacted to alpacaman in What other languages do you like   
    I just listened to the first minute or so. I don't understand everything but I think it's mostly because of pronounciation. The singer obviously doesn't speak any German, but the grammar didn't seem too terrible. The mistakes were mostly ones even some more advanced learners make, like mixing up genders or constructing side clauses wrongly.
    Japanese is not that great a first language to learn other languages from since it few phonems when compared to other languages and having every syllable end on a vowel (except for n) makes learning the pronounciation of especially European languages very difficult. To take an example from the song the singer pronounces "er|in|nerst" (hyphenation in German is between the phonetic units (I hope that's the correct term, I'm not a linguist)) as something like "eeanas". While pronouncing an "r" like a muted "a" (or something like the u in "hut", for the English speakers who wonder how to pronounce an "a" in German)) when it comes after a vowel is something that's even done in many parts of Germany (especially in the northwest, where I'm from), she still has to turn it into two syllables thus swallowing the i (pronounced like the i in "hit") to keep up with the song although it's supposed to be the stressed syllable. Pronouncing the "er" at the end of the word like an "a" is again something that's also done in some parts of Germany, but not something you would expect a German professional singer to do. The same goes for dropping the "t" at the end of the word.
    On a side note: nobody in Germany actually speaks exactly the German you learn in school since there are many regional differences, even when it comes to pretty common expressions. Hochdeutsch or High or Standard German is something that the first countrywide news show after WWII invented because they had to decide when to use northern or southern German terminology and how to pronounce certain letters. And people from Bavaria are still usually not able to speak it properly because they tend to roll the "r" and have a tendency to turn straight vowels into diphtongs. I still don't know why Bavarian is considered a German dialect and not its own language because the difference between High German and Bavarian are not that much smaller than the one between Polish and Russian for example.
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    Thyndd got a reaction from LemiusK in What other languages do you like   
    Oh yeah, I didn't mention Basque now that I think about it, but I love it and have read my fair share of grammar books and papers about it  It has way too many amazing features to go unnoticed. Morphosyntactically, it's one of the few ergative-absolutive languages in Europe; it features polypersonal agreement which is just the coolest thing ever and something you really need to move far from home to find (the Caucasus for example, look at Georgian); it also features surdéclinaison... a french term for inflectional morphology being used derivationally and recursively (e.g Bilbo-ra-ko bidea / Bilbao-ALL-GEN.LOC / The road to Bilbao), and a lot of other very cool features that I could keep talking on and on... It's beautiful, truly!
    As for the learning difficulty... it's just like any other language, really. Sure, it's not a indo-european language and if you've never left the family before it's gonna take some time to get used to it. The fact that every baby in every country in the world learns how to speak in the same amount of time on average, means that there's no "harder language". Just a matter of familiarity 
    I mean, the "it sounds like they are angry" thing can be heard about any language people are not used to. I hear that all the time about Chinese and Arabic from people around me, for example. There's also the stereotypes and the contexts people often hear that language being used. 
    To me, German sounds lovely, and I don't even frequently read german literature nor I'm particularly fond of any german band or anything. 
    There you have it, my favorite butchered German in Anime. Just out of curiosity, how well can you understand what she's singing without looking at the lyrics? 
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    Thyndd got a reaction from LemiusK in Whats the appeal of ntr?   
    What can I say, he he. I'd prefer them alive and in one piece  Please don't ban me Dergonu-sama
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    Thyndd got a reaction from Dergonu in Whats the appeal of ntr?   
    What can I say, he he. I'd prefer them alive and in one piece  Please don't ban me Dergonu-sama
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    Thyndd reacted to LemiusK in What other languages do you like   
    lol It's not just you. I make quite the king of lazy bum myself. Can't tell you how many times I stopped reading a VN in the middle of the route because my mind starts wandering somewhere else, and I ended up switching to either another VN or just YouTube-surfing.  I think I have a really bad attention problem, not being able to sit still for a long period of time.
     
    Well, to be frank with you, even with my somewhat adequate knowledge of Chinese characters, there are still many complex Chinese words out there that I don't know the meaning of. It's actually hardly a surprise why people have trouble learning kanji, when I think about the more complicated Chinese words that aren't used in everyday conversations. Give me words that we use everyday and of course I would be able to recognize them easily. But if it's something more specific, especially those dealing with folklore like plotge often like to use, then I'll probably take as much time as any average westerner to learn kanji as well, especially if I have to learn the different nuance kanji have from Chinese words.
    That said, it is nice to hear that you could simply learn kanas under a full afternoon. That does seem to solve half of my problems learning Japanese. Despite what I said above about kanji, if I could get a basic grasp of just the everyday characters Japanese use alone, then I could read at least half of the untranslated VNs out there. So yeah, it's definitely a tempting prospect that makes me want to jump in and start learning now.
    On the other hand, I think it really takes practice in conversations for you to fully grasp a language. The only reason I'm able to use English as fluently as I can today is because it's a necessity, and because I've been using it for such a long time. And even then, my English is still hardly perfect. So when it comes to Japanese, to find a proper partner to have a Japanese conversation... that can be a daunting task in itself.
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    Thyndd reacted to alpacaman in What other languages do you like   
    I don't speak any languages besides German, English and Spanish. I had Latin classes for seven years and even chose it as one of my final exam topics in high school (you only have to pick four in Germany) but that basically amounted to translating while using a dictionary so I don't actually speak any.
    Other than that I really like the sound of Portuguese and Dutch since for me it kind of sounds like someone with a throat condition trying to sound cute. Also Basque really fascinates me since apparently it isn't related to any other known language and it is said to be so complicated that it's impossible to learn if you haven't grown up with it.
    I'm actually surprised that German seems to be a popular language. I heard many people say that every conversation in German sounds like people are arguing. On the other hand a lot of famous authors and poets wrote in German so it has to have some kind of appeal. The Japanese language also has quite a few words they took from German, my favourites being Lumpenproletariat (I mean, obviously) and Arubaito (from Arbeit, meaning work) which for some reason has a slightly different meaning in Japanese since it refers mostly to part time jobs. Also the term Steins Gate sounds weird from a German standpoint beside the obvious language mixing. You would probably say Stein gate. While adding the "s" is not technically wrong since the rules for connecting words in German are kind of loose, it sounds like a genitive implicating posession thus resulting in a meaning like "gate belonging to the stone". Several German cities actually have a place called Steintor ("stone gate"). I know Rintaro playing around with other languages is supposed to be stupid, but it still bugs me for some reason. The term "reading Steiner" is even weirder since the form Steiner for the word Stein doesn't even exist. Steiner exists as a surname though. Stein is pronounced "Shtine" by the way.
    Something similar goes for the anime Schwarzesmarken (German pronounciation Shvartsesmarken with both "a"s being pronounced like the u in ruffian). It took me some time to understand that it's supposed to mean something like "black marks". But then it would have to be Schwarzmarken or Schwarze Marken.
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    Thyndd got a reaction from LemiusK in What other languages do you like   
    So how is it learning written Japanese for someone who is already fairly proficient with hànzi? I imagine that the multiple readings must still suck, but at least most kanji you may be able to recognize and at least figure some of the meaning (even if it's sometimes somewhat off), no? 
     
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    Thyndd got a reaction from alpacaman in What other languages do you like   
    ... aside from Japanese, which I assume every one of us here is pretty fond of 
    So I had this idea and thought that could be interesting since from what I can see we are a fairly multicultural community. That should ward off the stereotypes or at least level it out somehow.
    So, with your consent, let's get started. 
    As a huge language nerd that I am, I cannot for the life of me list all the languages that I happen to like, but let me at least call out some names, soshite, kono forums wa weeb dakara, let's weeb it up a little by providing some animu songs as samples. 
    Arabic: I love its sound to bits. So badass yet so beautiful. The grammar is nothing short of amazing, you've gotta love semitic non-concatenative morphology. 
    Song
    Slavic languages: particularly Czech, Polish and Russian. A lot of palatalization and sibilants, along with monstrous consonant clusters. They sound elegant, rich and complex but also sweet and cute. 
    Song Song 2 Song 3
    Hungarian: I like slavic, and Hungarian phonology, in spite of the fact that it doesn't have any relation to the slavic family (it's finno-ugric) kinda has a similar touch to it. That aside, I'm a big fan of agglutinating languages with vowel harmony. 
    Song
    Turkish: have I said that I love agglutinating languages with vowel harmony? Besides, Turkish grammar is incredible, probably the most regular language on Earth. 
    Song
    Chinese (mandarin) : I'll be honest with you, for the most part of my life, I didn't like chinese at all, nor any tonal languages for that matter. However, due to repetitive exposure and interest in its grammar, little by little I grew to like it quite a bit. Nowadays I find chinese to be a fascinating language with a ton of amazing linguistic features. Don't let the basic appearance of its grammar fool you, chinese is a very complex language at heart. 
    Song
    German: fairly typical right? Everyone loves German these days. I guess it's the trend right now, probably born due to the number of german bands that started to crop up during this century. Not my case anyway. For me German sounds magical and unique. It's my favorite germanic language along with Icelandic. 
    Song
    Aaaand I'll stop here. There are a lot more languages that I'd like to talk about, like Welsh and celtic languages, Icelandic,  Swahili, Hawaiian, Nahuatl... But the list would not end and sadly I can't provide weeb stuff of those 
    Now it's your turn. Let's see what you guys like, it should prove to be fun and interesting. Also, if you are ok with it, I'd be nice to know what languages you already speak, in order to see how this affects your taste. For the record, my native languages are Catalan and Spanish. 
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    Thyndd reacted to Andromis in What other languages do you like   
    My favorite languages have to be anything Slavic (Though mostly Polish), Arabic, and Italian.
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