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Yes, and laws don't have accomodate to YOU. If it's legal it's not necessarily right, but what YOU think it's right is worthless. If you really want to change the law, study politics, work your way up the ladder to a power position, get elected democratically by the citizens of your country, and then, with society's approval, change what you think must be changed.
As long as I'm not breaking the law of my country or the place I'm currenly in (and this even applies to fuwanovel), yes, I'm not doing anything wrong by any objective standard. I hope you realize how dangerous it is to say otherwise. I hope you do, but I know you most likely don't, because I can already tell you are one of those people who believe there's nothing wrong with mob justice.
Honestly the fact that you put forward the fact that 'fuwanovel allows Trump supporters' as a reason -even if you made clear it's not your main reason- for wanting to leave, says a lot about your stance. Just for the record, I'm not even American and couldn't care less about EEUU's politics, but I know for a fact that he's been elected democratically, so allow me to ask who the hell are you to shit on a big chunk of EEUU's population? I can't see where's the respectful part about calling Trump voters bigots, and expressing that, in your opinion, they shouldn't even be allowed in a forums that has nothing to do with politics, since, in your words, that's condoning bigotry.
The same goes for lolicon content and violent sexual content. Maybe you can't easily separate reality and fiction, but I can assure you that most of the people who consume lolicon content are not attracted to real children, and the wet dreams of most people who consume rape content is not raping a real woman. Insinuating otherwise is insulting people by calling them potential criminals. 

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Eh, I can't blame Fuwa either. For the content ban, that is, there's no excuse to forbid actually talking about loli stuff. 
There's honestly no need to risk it. People can go get their lolis elsewhere.
Though, since it seems like the discussion ban has been somewhat lifted, I'll just say that it'll always strike me as really bizarre that child pornography laws even applies to lolicon. Why, you might ask? Well, because in lolicon there's no child 

Back in the day when Fuwa banned discussions of loli content--provoked by a thread I created.  You can read my allegory of that affair, along with a link to what's left of the discussion, in the FuwaHistory thread.  Essentially, Tay himself stepped in and decided that the discussion was over.  Threats of reporting Fuwanovel to Interpol may or may not have been involved.

God help us. When in the world did even the otaku community get corrupted by the influence of political and cultural activist, who not only see issue with fellow community member's political beliefs but also seek to bring their political correction into the mix. The fact that Funyarinpa sees issues with another's fetish is simply put outrages, as if it’s anyone's business what another finds sexy, and so far, as I can tell it’s great that he is leaving. The Otaku community isn't home to these activists and never has been; and if one wants to join the community they can leave their ideals at the door and watch some anime or visual novels. It’s not a question of Right or Left either, our community is a place where all otaku should be able to come together to enjoy the medium. If you dislike homosexuality, rape, NTR, loli, futa, vanilla, incest, or anything else just say you don't like that genre and stay away. Those of us who like those things don't need you attacking us, as I've said before it’s not your business what I find sexy. Lastly, the fact that some people find topics offensive is of no concern, there will always be people who say that something's offensive and those people can go buy some diapers if they want to cry.  

I remember I had an argument with you over some political views that touched upon some of the topics you mention here. Keeping that in mind and recalling how things transpired, I know better than to engage in another debate with you. Moreover, that's completely beside the point.
If you feel hurt, frustrated or whatever by being here, hey, just leave, that's your prerogative and there's no right or wrong. But just let me tell you one thing. No matter where you go, you'll find people whose opinions heavily conflict with yours. Some of them you'll find disgusting and will make you feel outraged. Maybe if you had the power to do so you'd become a tyrant and outright ban everything that doesn't fit your vision of the world. But you know what? The truth of the matter is that you are powerless, and no one cares about what you think is right. If you don't learn to accept that you'll feel uncomfortable anywhere and everywhere. Optionally you could create your own echo chamber, shun everyone that makes you feel offended and become the bigot that you accused other people of being. Again, your prerogative.
Let me remind you that in order not to leave everything to the subjective righteousness of a few, we have laws. As long as those laws are abided by, we must objectively accept that no human rights have been violated. You are obviously entitled to feel in a certain way about a subject, but by openly holding in contempt law-abiding people who just happen to differ in their views you come across as someone who prooobably should get off his high horse. Carelessly disliking people and making you unlikable yourself doesn't tend to yield very good results, that much I can unfortunately tell from experience, because I think as teenagers everyone stood there to some extent. Some people just drag it out for longer than it should last.

If you're leaving now, then farewell, sir! Take good care of yourself throughout your life!
But, you know, you're going to get rid of the Santa hat before leaving, right?
Right?

Sorry, I'll get serious for a second, because you are being frivolous and (I hope) you don't realise it.
You say you could've been "traumatized" by posting online because you've seen "extreme" stuff. Earlier you felt entitled to say that things like loli content can make abuse victims re-traumatized.
Due to the environments I've lived my life in, I've known victims of abuse and some of them I've loved and called them my friends (and one of them my girlfriend). I can tell you neither of them would give a flying fuck about loli, or whatever "extreme" thing you've seen while posting. This is because this kind of people is either 1, strong and 100% over it (two girls I've known actually even enjoyed loli themselves) or 2, too busy dealing with their actual real issue every day and every second of their lives inside their heads to fucking care about what you call offensive or harmful.
Please, do not speak for them. Do not call whatever shit you have seen online "enough to traumatize" you. Do not pretend to understand what you know nothing about. You are being really, really disrespectful doing so, way more than anyone else here.
/seriousmode

I feel really sad for you... That's a lot of hate to endure living with... I hope you can find happiness in the future.
It'd be nice if, at least out of respect to yourself, you could keep the discussion polite.

I think there's a bit more to that. What I like in the culture of political correctness (yes, I'm using the term unironically) is that it encourages self-reflection and being mindful of other people's feelings. That's what empathy is for me. For example, a group of people universally find some term offensive. I didn't know that, but if someone tells me that and it's a group that I have any kind of respect for, I won't use it, otherwise I'd be an asshole on purpose.
On the other hand we have the abomination of outrage culture and treating everything even slightly questionable as a scandal. Vide Attack Helicopter Dating Sim and the discussion about that, I think my posts there kind of missed the point, but the one thing that frustrated me is that intention and context seemed to lose all meaning. It's only the hypothetical person that might feel insulted by it and their overzealous advocates that matter. It goes to the bizarre extremes such as Kim Kardashian not being allowed to impersonate Diana Ross on Holloween party because of Jim Crow and blackface... I mean, how the fuck did we get here from the genuine defence of vulnerable groups?
With eroge we got to a similar point. There's a lot of content in it that I personally find objectionable and I don't really hide that. I openly argue for the availability of all-ages editions and would support replacing certain content for Western release (ex. Kara no Shoujo's rape scenes), if it was done with actual care. But the community never stopped me from enjoying the things I actually like and speaking my mind on all kinds of manners, while there are definitely those that would happily burn my entrainment with the whole forest of "questionable" otaku media. I mean, we just had one of the most wholesome-looking yuri VNs ever banned by Steam as potential child porn. An all-ages, light romance that teaches people Esperanto FFS. I don't want to whitewash all the creepy weirdness that comes from 4chan otaku and other fringes, but damn, reasonable discussion is simply dead by this point. If we're not going to be tolerant with each other, we can just all follow Funya and jump into a pit of fire - it's not like we have many other places to go to cultivate our hobbies, or enough people that share it to break into a dozen of factions.
EDIT: And one more thing that people seem to gloss over in Funyarinpa's story... He was a minor, as I assume, openly active in a porn community for years without anyone doing anything. As much as I believe that it's not really my place to police what other adults do and most of them are probably stable enough to not be influenced by all the vile crap, no middle schooler should read euphoria. We might not be able to stop them anyways, but eroge communities are not a place where anyone below 18 should be allowed into. We should take at least that much responsibility for what we're spearing around here (not that it matters much at this stage of Fuwa being dead, but it's a good lesson for the future).

People is and always will be so different and have many different opinions, we cannot avoid this. Despite that, we must try to respect each other and allow everyone to express what they think. We must protect the right of everyone to stay away from things/people they dislike too, that way nothing is forced upon no one and everyone is happy and everyone is free to voice their opinion on stuff.
Someone can hurt you with words. You can ignore this someone then and befriend others whose words you like.
No one forces you to share their views, and no one forces you to argue with them about how yours are better. If this hurts you, you can just ignore it. If you feel the psychological NEED to impose your morals upon them despite being able to ignore it, it is you who is making a problem for yourself.
Please think about it coldly, realise you can just ignore the people and the VN's you dislike, and enjoy what is good for you and be happy.

Ugh, are we having yet another discussion about 2D vs 3D again or something...?
Is it really THAT difficult for people to keep their 2D mentality in check and not let that influence their thinking in real life? It's perfectly normal for a person to enjoy 2D loli stuff, and still want to beat the hell out of a real life pedophile.
Also, I mean, this is pretty much like "I find people killing each other gross and disgusting, so I will just boycott the whole movie community together".
It's perfectly normal for a person to have something they can't stomach. Doesn't mean they have to spread that hate to everything associated to it.
I can't handle NTR. That shit disgusts me. But I still enjoy everything else that is not NTR like normal.
It's not that people "normalized" this and that. People just learned to just, ignore things that they have no interest in and let the person be, that's all.

Basically, this whole topic is a simple indirect kink-bashing under an imaginary excuse of "normalising" something, the thing you can see on those weird twitter accounts with kirby avatars whose day usually consists of going around and attacking people for enjoying the stuff they might consider problematic. I'm pretty sure the thoughtlessly hysterical stance of Funya is very harmful to humanity in general, a thing that leads to censoring any stuff the arbitrary hivemind doesn't like, an endless pitfall of sorts. You don't like certain themes and imagery? Avoid it. It's very easy to do nowadays. Making yourself look like a weird victim simply because you aren't capable of responsible consuption is such a childish thing to do that it doesn't deserve any real discussion. I am not interested in reading stuff like Euphoria, Starless or Maggot baits but that doesn't mean that community is somehow bad for liking those or that people should be banned from the discussion. The only possible advise here is to grow up and learn to differentiate reality from fiction.

Yes, and laws don't have accomodate to YOU. If it's legal it's not necessarily right, but what YOU think it's right is worthless. If you really want to change the law, study politics, work your way up the ladder to a power position, get elected democratically by the citizens of your country, and then, with society's approval, change what you think must be changed.
As long as I'm not breaking the law of my country or the place I'm currenly in (and this even applies to fuwanovel), yes, I'm not doing anything wrong by any objective standard. I hope you realize how dangerous it is to say otherwise. I hope you do, but I know you most likely don't, because I can already tell you are one of those people who believe there's nothing wrong with mob justice.
Honestly the fact that you put forward the fact that 'fuwanovel allows Trump supporters' as a reason -even if you made clear it's not your main reason- for wanting to leave, says a lot about your stance. Just for the record, I'm not even American and couldn't care less about EEUU's politics, but I know for a fact that he's been elected democratically, so allow me to ask who the hell are you to shit on a big chunk of EEUU's population? I can't see where's the respectful part about calling Trump voters bigots, and expressing that, in your opinion, they shouldn't even be allowed in a forums that has nothing to do with politics, since, in your words, that's condoning bigotry.
The same goes for lolicon content and violent sexual content. Maybe you can't easily separate reality and fiction, but I can assure you that most of the people who consume lolicon content are not attracted to real children, and the wet dreams of most people who consume rape content is not raping a real woman. Insinuating otherwise is insulting people by calling them potential criminals. 

YOU GET RID OF THE SANTA HAT IN YOUR AVATAR TOO.

 

I remember I had an argument with you over some political views that touched upon some of the topics you mention here. Keeping that in mind and recalling how things transpired, I know better than to engage in another debate with you. Moreover, that's completely beside the point.
If you feel hurt, frustrated or whatever by being here, hey, just leave, that's your prerogative and there's no right or wrong. But just let me tell you one thing. No matter where you go, you'll find people whose opinions heavily conflict with yours. Some of them you'll find disgusting and will make you feel outraged. Maybe if you had the power to do so you'd become a tyrant and outright ban everything that doesn't fit your vision of the world. But you know what? The truth of the matter is that you are powerless, and no one cares about what you think is right. If you don't learn to accept that you'll feel uncomfortable anywhere and everywhere. Optionally you could create your own echo chamber, shun everyone that makes you feel offended and become the bigot that you accused other people of being. Again, your prerogative.
Let me remind you that in order not to leave everything to the subjective righteousness of a few, we have laws. As long as those laws are abided by, we must objectively accept that no human rights have been violated. You are obviously entitled to feel in a certain way about a subject, but by openly holding in contempt law-abiding people who just happen to differ in their views you come across as someone who prooobably should get off his high horse. Carelessly disliking people and making you unlikable yourself doesn't tend to yield very good results, that much I can unfortunately tell from experience, because I think as teenagers everyone stood there to some extent. Some people just drag it out for longer than it should last.

I'd do anything for her, except watch the anime

I just picked up Fureraba and oh god, I'm enjoying this way more than I ever would've expected. I'm not the biggest fan of moege... Just because the lack of conflict usually puts me off. I mean, it's a fundamental part of storytelling to give your characters some goal, something at stake and some obstacles, that's what makes a story interesting, right? Well I still don't think I'm mistaken there, but who tf cares about plot when literally every single scene has you laughing your ass off or dying from a cuteness overdose, or both at the same time. I'm just a man dude... I can't help it. 
So yeah, I have still a bit left of Misaki's route, but if every route maintains this level of comedy and fluffiness... It's gonna be a blast. 
And once more, the lesson I once learnt the hard way about never writing off anything because of its genre pays off greatly. 

The lack of "conflict" made Yuzuyu's route a little bland to me, but I loved all others - especially Misaki and Rina.
Rina's route had just the right amount of drama/conflict to spice things up a bit, and Misaki's - well, it was just great I think my final verdict was that Misaki was best girl, while Rina had best route.

I just picked up Fureraba and oh god, I'm enjoying this way more than I ever would've expected. I'm not the biggest fan of moege... Just because the lack of conflict usually puts me off. I mean, it's a fundamental part of storytelling to give your characters some goal, something at stake and some obstacles, that's what makes a story interesting, right? Well I still don't think I'm mistaken there, but who tf cares about plot when literally every single scene has you laughing your ass off or dying from a cuteness overdose, or both at the same time. I'm just a man dude... I can't help it. 
So yeah, I have still a bit left of Misaki's route, but if every route maintains this level of comedy and fluffiness... It's gonna be a blast. 
And once more, the lesson I once learnt the hard way about never writing off anything because of its genre pays off greatly. 

I just picked up Fureraba and oh god, I'm enjoying this way more than I ever would've expected. I'm not the biggest fan of moege... Just because the lack of conflict usually puts me off. I mean, it's a fundamental part of storytelling to give your characters some goal, something at stake and some obstacles, that's what makes a story interesting, right? Well I still don't think I'm mistaken there, but who tf cares about plot when literally every single scene has you laughing your ass off or dying from a cuteness overdose, or both at the same time. I'm just a man dude... I can't help it. 
So yeah, I have still a bit left of Misaki's route, but if every route maintains this level of comedy and fluffiness... It's gonna be a blast. 
And once more, the lesson I once learnt the hard way about never writing off anything because of its genre pays off greatly. 

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I haven't finished it yet. But afaik at first you can only pick SHIRONE or Yuuri's route. Then Sara's route will unlock once you've read both. As for the choices, for Yuuri's route you pick going for a stroll on the beach, and for SHIRONE you stay in your room having a siesta.