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  1. Your Novella was actually really good. Though it's been two years, where were you planning on going with the story, and what did you plan on happening? I would like to know, since it is unlikely to ever be finished or continued after two years of pending action.
  2. Oh, I guess I did misunderstand. Sorry about that. I tend not to keep track of who posted what comment, and so I can miss conversations between two people if they are going on for a long time, perceiving it to be a bunch of random people talking rather than two. Bad habit of mine.
  3. I understand you are in the heat of an argument, but what he said does make sense. Most people that play visual novels in the US do not buy the Japanese boxed version of the game. In a perfect word, they would, as this supports the developers of the game and goes against piracy. I am guessing though that many people like visual novels because they can play on any computer, including laptops or windows XP, meaning many of us do not have very much money, and other more important priorities when it comes to money. You are implying that Jiskra is selfish and egotistical because he refuses to obtain the game in a legit manner. I am guessing you have a very hard-line stance against piracy of any kind, including visual novels. this means you see no excuse for pirating a visual novel of any kind. that is a respectable stance, and it probably has worked for you so far. For other people though, deciding to prioritize buying Japanese visual novels over something such as paying rent isn't viable. Many have other more important financial obligations. Some people even have children. These people, who I would guess make up a significant portion of the visual novel community (judging by the ability of visual novels to run even without graphics cards on most PC's) would have to drop the VN's a s a hobby, and visual novels would become a lot more inaccessible as a hobby. This would be bad for the Visual Novel companies themselves, as well as Visual Novel licensing groups. Since many of the fans of visual novels in the west do not have much money, they cannot afford to buy the Japanese version of every visual novel they want to play. Many can't even afford to buy one Visual Novel (college kids, etc.). Forcing them to buy the Japanese version of the game every time they want to play it would mean that Visual Novels would not be a viable hobby in the west. This would mean that many of the people playing visual novels in the west, the advocating for them to be translated and brought over here, would leave. The Visual Novel community would become much less accessible, and the licensing companies would make much less money. This is because although most visual novels fans do not buy every visual novel they play (the ones from Japan mostly), they do support where they can, and this support would go away if a hard-line stance against Japanese visual novels pirating was put in place. Hard-line morality does not always work for those of less-fortunate circumstance. Keep in mind the person you are responding to in an angry manner had a very calm, even happy attitude in his post (as much as I can glean from text). He was not trying to incite you in any way, an was not trying to start an argument. You chose to respond in a heavily negative tone without any reason to, and without considering that his argument did have merit, and good reasons,e even if one concludes that they are wrong. Before getting incredibly angry over someone's post on the internet next time, it would be greatly in your benefit if you considered that they may not be dead wrong, they may have a point, they may not be trying to argue with you, and even if they are wrong, they may genuinely think that they are contributing to the discussion at hand. Screaming at them that their post is useless really doesn't help anyone on this thread, but it will cause you to lose credibility in your posts. Even if you are right about something, this behavior will dissuade others from agreeing with you, something I am sure you do not want. Edit: I am not asking for a steam version. Please do not remove this post. Edit: I am also not trying to rationalize piracy. I am saying that as a result of the imperfect world we live in, not everybody can play by hard-line rules, and there will be those that break them. Scolding those that do or saying they deserve what they got or something is forgetting that their circumstance is often different from yours. Your rules and moral system works for you as a result of your circumstance, but it is not the same for everyone. I would respect and understand this, as I believe this is important when respecting others. Piracy is a forbidden topic on this board because of the many different opinions on it, resulting from the many different situations people find themselves in. Piracy shouldn't be advocated here, but neither should hang and shame those who we find do commit it. That would not be conducive to this board.
  4. When people talk about things being overhyped, the idea is that they praise a work to the high heavens, set an impossible standard for it, and ruin anybody else's ability to enjoy the work. What is really happening is a little simpler. When people like a game, they talk about it. They share their experiences. When people dislike a game (this works with anime too), they will generally drop it and move on. Mabe they will say something quick about it, but most people are more concerned with finding works to enjoy, so it is not uncommon to find things we do not like in the process. When something is highly praised though, our expectations are set, and we feel let down and annoyed when they are not met. This is generally when people start to say it was overhyped, implying the high praise the game was given ruined it. This is simply a matter of personal taste. On an individual basis, people will generally spend more time talking about good works they have played rather than bad. With works not fitting in to their tastes, they will move on. On the internet, if many people like something, many people will talk about it, and people that didn't enjoy it will generally move on. This can create the illusion to some people that a game gets nothing but praise. Once again, on an individual basis, if people will enjoy a work, they will talk about their feelings. They are not trying to give a critical analysis. As with anything, no matter how many people seem to like it, if something is not to your taste, then you simply have different taste. Anybody can learn to enjoy, or at least appreciate, almost anything, but whether the work is worth their time investment is completely up to the individual. Hype isn't generally the problem in these situations. Expecting your experiences to line up with that of others is. And it is completely possible, and is usually the case, for someone to find what you percieve to be bad writing, to be well thought out. This is not so much their lack of experience or education but their individual taste and the subjective standard of writing at work. Nobody has failed you for not enjoying this game. It is simply not, at current, to your taste. Keep in mind, it is completely possible for you to learn to enjoy the game, as individuals can expand their taste. It is important to understand that choosing not to learn to enjoy it means that you do not think that it is, at current, worth your time (as time is valuable). This is very different from it veing impossible for you to enjoy, and the work has not failed any objective standard of writing, as none exists (just consensus). Good god that was long.
  5. I'm pretty sure this discussion is safe. Relax. And I already watch Kodomo no Jikan, so it's a little late for that. It had a good message behind all of that awkward fan service, and was actually a surprisingly nice story. It was written by a female manga author to help girls who were in love with older guys, so the message would make sense. I also watched Boku no Piku and didn't react, so . . .
  6. Although not directly answering the topic, you could also post Anime where the characters simply have a large age gap between them. Examples include Kara no Shoujo (VN), with the 30 year old male and 16/18 year old female, and Spice and Wolf (girl is 300, guy is 25, girl looks only 15). If you do this though, please tell me, as it does not answer the above question but rather a secondary one.
  7. So, I am watching anime. And I notice that there are many loli heroines in Anime. That's cool. Then I decided to watch Log Horizon. And I notice that the main character is Shiro. I did not notice this. It was a huge depravity of thought. In this show, especially evident in the second season when they both confess, you get the idea that there are two girls that like Shiro. I did not know this either. It was mindrape. Their names are Minori (a Miko Preist) and Asuka Langley Soryu (a ninja). Minori is actually 14 (as stated on the wiki), although it also states, and is evident in the show, that she acts much more mature than she is. Azusa Nakano acts as Shiro's main body guard and follows him around the entire show. Aside from using her ninja powers to protect him though, Anko Mitarashi isn't actually given much screen time or much character development, and all of her lines revolve around Shiro. She feels more like an ornament for the main character than an actual character. Heck, Alphnose Elric gets more character development in the ending theme than the actual show. Log Horizon sets up these two girls to like Shiro. This means that for anyone watching the show, you are going to compare them. And since the audience identifies the most with the main character, how this comparison goes matters. Both Minori and Ami Kawashima look like loli's. The Shinto Preist acts much more mature for her age due to her experiences with her brother's crippling illness. the Ninja girl is a college student, so naturally acts her age. Therefore, they look and act approximately the same age. The difference is that as of episode 21 (the episode I am on), Minori is given much character development and a very sweet personality. She is designed to be very likable, and since she loves Shiro, she is designed to be shipped with Shiro (for people that like loli's and/or her personality).Minori also gets a huge chunk of the show where she is directing battles and put in situations where she makes decisions separate from Shiro and her existence as a character separate from Shiro arises. In other words, she is a very well developed character with a very likable personality. Akise Aru on the other hand is only shown following Shiro around, and all of her dialogue revolves around Shiro, as hse is never portrayed in the show unless the scene is about Shiro. Because of this, the show doesn't really delve into her personality as much, and she feels very much like an unimportant side character that's just "there". So you'd expect the logical answer would be for the show to pair Minori and Shiro together considering how it wrote itself that way. No. What happens is Log Horizon has you fall in love with this amazing, well-realized character named Minori, who has great significance in relation to Shiro, and an actual backstory with him. And the audience (me) loves her. And then Shiro up and chooses the desk ornament. If the show wanted me to pair Shiro with Akame, why did it put so much effort into getting me to ship Minori instead. It should be reversed. (if you haven't noticed, I like loli's. My case still stand, though). Here is a Neko for your patience with my long textpost: My question is: is there any anime where a mature character (generally at least 18, or is portrayed/treated that way) chooses the loli heroine, and falls in love with her. One where the loli is an actual loli, and doesn't just look it. No more cheap excuses (but Sir,she just looks like she is 9). I want a show with balls.
  8. Are you related to Kayuga? You have complementary profile pics, and I was wondering if I should follow you too. Oh, and where is the list of Global Moderators?

  9. Wow. I think I agree with everything you have said. Part of the reason why I was more concerned over the removal of H-scenes than you are is that I haven't played much Visual Novels before. Of the ten or so I have played, Saya no Uta and School Days HQ both had sex as a very critical part of the story. they were also very well written, and never used it as a crutch for the narrative. I was amazed that these stories could handle this topic in a mature way, so when I hear about censorship in gaming, I tend to be afraid that they are going to take a VN that is well written, and has figured out how to incorporate sex into it (consequences and all), and butcher it. I don't know how many games there are out there that actually use H-scenes properly, so I can be pretty paranoid about it. According to you guys though, they seem to choose censoring VN's that don't know how to properly integrate sex into its story. So I may not need to be as paranoid as I am. As long as another Song of Saya doesn't come out with half the game missing (because I like that game).
  10. I said that those who dislike H-scenes are most likely doing so because the culture they grew up in probably taught them to be less comfortable about sex. I said this because based on my limited understanding of the world, the information i gathered led me to conclude that. When I said this, I wasn't emotionally charged, and was not thinking of any of you in a condescending fashion. I simply attempted to infer how and why you guys hold the opinions you do, and based on that, made the most logical assumption I could. I may very well be wrong. I am not in any of your heads, and have no idea if I am right. I am completely fine with any of you holding a different stance on H-scenes, and if you feel my guess on why so many people don't like H-scenes is wrong, at least in relation to you, feel free to tell me. I honestly have no idea if I'm right or not. I can only guess. the reason why I wrote all that (yes, all of it), was because I wanted to solve this dilemma of mine by getting you to understand how I think of these scenes. Most H-scenes are badly written. I am not blind to that. Bizarrely, they actually do bring me closer to the characters, and I do end up enjoying the VN more. this is not because I am lonely, have no life, or simply think with my penis too much. I just think differently than most people. I guess I should change my question a little. If several random scenes were taken out of a game, them being your average character building *spending time with characters* schlick, would you pay for the game? i don't mean would I buy it, but would you, personally, and why.
  11. I recently have been trying to rate the VN's I have played. And I discovered that I really like Song of Saya. So much so that I believe it has been one of the best stories I have ever read in any medium. I gave it a 10/10, because I enjoyed it as much as I would enjoy a masterpiece (I don't think anything is perfect, nor do I think it is possible to rate an entertainment medium objectively, so I rate based on my enjoyment instead). What I discovered is that I also enjoyed Stiens;Gate just as much as Song of Saya, and think it's just as well written. I also enjoyed School Days HQ just as much, although for slightly different reasons, as it is not well written in the same way. All of these titles I want to give a 10/10, because I seem to have enjoyed them just as much in relation to each other, albeit in different ways. I think I will probably want to give Steins;Gate 0 is 10/10 rating as well, and this poses a problem. This means that I have given four VN's a 10/10, and VNDB says I should only ever give a maximum of three. Shit. I don't feel like I enjoyed them any less in relationship to each other, even if I enjoyed School Days for slightly different reasons. Rating them lower would means I enjoyed them less than Song of Saya. I need advice. I sure hope I'm using these forums appropriately.
  12. I lot of you are of the opinion that the censorship more or less doesn't matter because it doesn't impact the story at all. What especially stood out to me was the response "Basically, it's just porn" (Kurisu-Chan, 2). This is where my opinion differs from many of yours, and why I am so torn when the answers for others is so clear. To most people, the hentai scenes in these games is simply there for titillation, and adds no emotional impact to the story. The same thing could be accomplished through the use of a pornographic OVA on HentaiHaven. My opinion is very different from that, so before I say what I am thinking and why I believe that to be the case, I want you to understand that I am not insane. If any of you have ever played Steins;Gate, you'll get to a scene in the very beginning where Okabe buys his childhood friend a toy. From the way they interact, you immediately understand how close they are to each other. They are able to relay this feeling to you while maintaining the natural flow of the conversation so that it never feels forced. If they took this scene out of the visual novel, most people wouldn't be very happy. It is a small scene, less than 2 minutes, but has a huge impact when establishing the relationship the two characters have. Apply this to hentai scenes. I have never played a visual novel (that is not a nukige) where the hentai scenes had little to no impact on the emotional tone of the story. You can go to my VNDB page to see the visual novels I have played. Keep in mind, I am very comfortable talking about sex. I was able to go to my parents and blatantly ask them about sex, and how it worked, when I was a child. In the west, sex is a very uncomfortable topic. People feel very awkward talking about it, and it is treated as something that, although everyone thinks about it, nobody should admit to thinking about it. It is considered dirty and thought to be incapable of adding to the value of art. So far I have established that, for me, hentai scenes in fact do have a significant impact beyond mere titillation. I have only begun to explain why that is the case for me, and must do so, as my opinion is so outlandish to some that I do seem insane. I have watched hentai OVA's, porn, and played a few nukiges before. And I tend to get bored and don't usually finish (which is why I browse image sited for that sort of thing instead). Sex in real life, however, is unlike porn in the fact that is is heavily emotionally charged. We have sex with people we love, and it tends to come after the relationship buds and grows to a significant extent. What I am amazed by is how there are so few stories that capture sex this way. Porn cannot capture sex in this fashion, as relationships and meaningful sex takes time to grow. Visual novels, however, are the perfect fit for this. They tend to tell long-form stories, giving time to bring the reader and protagonist closer to the characters. Because these are not TV shows, they are not aired on TV and are able to be explicit about sex. This enables Visual Novels to show two people at one of their closest moments with each other. Visual novels are able to describe what characters feel during these close times, and can get infinitely more intimate because of this. Subtlety is important, but it is not the only way, not often the best way, to tell this type of scene. And this is why I think H-scenes are so awkward to many people, and why they seem so badly written. I argue that much of the reason these scenes feel so awkward to read is because people simply feel uncomfortable about sex. Admittedly, a lot of the time these scenes are simply placed into the story, and don't hold up to the narrative flow of the rest of the VN. But this doesn't mean that they can't have great emotional impact even when they are awkward. Sex in real life is awkward (the manga Futari Ecchi is a perfect fictional example of this). The sex scenes are censored in the west because they are thought to not add value to the story. This is a cultural thing, and reflects the way we think about sex. Many people feel as if the sex in the story brings no emotional impact to them, and I argue that this is because sex is inherently very intimate. In order to be affected by a sex scene, one needs to be very comfortable with the idea of sex and thinking about it intimately, as they are about to see to characters engage in it in a very intimate manner. If one is distracted by their own discomfort, they won't be affected by the intimacy the characters are feeling, and the emotional value of that scene will be lost upon that person. I do believe this is why so many people think of the sex scenes as simply porographic, when I do believe they are many times more, even when awkwardly written. Taking all of the above into context, if sex scenes do have a dense emotional impact relative to the story, would it still be worth buying them? Reading Nandemonai's post, this seems to be very much the way I view censorship. Thank you for posting.
  13. Sorry if this is in the wrong board, and too long, but I thought this was a serious enough question to warrant asking. I would like to ask you this: is buying and playing a commercially released censored title really worth it? Specifically the ones with no sort of patch for them? I was wondering this myself because I have not been able to bring myself to play the censored version of a visual novel, regardless if it is officially or fan translated. The thing is, when I pay for these games, I feel as if I am telling the companies they had a job well done. I feel as if I am rewarding them for censoring games. When it comes to what I, individually, can do about visual novel censorship, it is not very much. If a company releases a previously untranslated game censored only, with no option to play the original version, should I still pay for the game? Or would that tell the localization companies that I will buy their titles no matter what, so it doesn't matter what they do? What if the game is supposedly really good? Do I forgo ever playing it, opting for an incomplete experience? What are our thoughts? I just don't want to miss out on any good stories for because of unfounded logic. Edit: I am asking this because the only thing companies are obligated to care about is your money. Pay for a product, and they will consider their product successful. I am just wondering if I would be screwing myself over by paying for an incomplete title, or alternatively, if my fears are unfounded and I am just missing out on a mass of great titles. Also, I am fine with releasing an all-ages version of a title. I encourage that, since it broadens the audience of who can/is willing to play these games. What I dislike is when the original version isn't available, as this is limiting my freedom of choice and says that because some people will only/can only play this game censored, everybody must play it censored. This can be a scary prospect, especially considering something like ~80-90% of Visual Novels are Eroge.
  14. Wait, are you the creator of the website? If so, good job. Also, I know this is a very fine line I am walking here, but I felt it necessary to clarify your rules concerning loli (just understand, not debate them). As I understand it, one is not allowed to talk about the ethics of the subject, whether it is right or wrong. That is for another time and place where people aren't so strongly divided. As I also understand it, one is not allowed t post sexually explicit pictures on this site at all, but must post links to them with warnings that they are NSFW. I am assuming that this is the same for loli content as well. that is also a good idea. What is less clear is what we are allowed to discuss in connection to the term "loli." I am assuming w can't vividly describe any sexual scenario in any fashion, as that would be text porn. But am I allowed to discuss my favorite loli characters? Or fetishes? Not trying to push my luck, I just think it is really important to get out of the way, as I don't want to end up on the wrong side of a ban because I didn't understand the rules. Sorry if that gave me a bad first impression, but I felt that it was best to ask, as I like the character archetype and personally don't feel qualms saying so. Oh, and all of those visual novels are among my absolute favorites, except for Littlewitch Romanesque, which is very endearing for me, but not reaching the level of the others. Many of the characters didn't feel as fleshed out to me. the other ones were also a bit darker and more realistic (in a dark, gritty, "Last of Us" sort of way). And I loved the art style of NekoPara.
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