Vorathiel

All I know about Himawari were desings of main characters, and that it's 'character driven story, set in not distant future'. And that first chapter is moeblobbing, while next ones are much more serious. So far - it's exactly what I thought it would be. Except that I don't like basically nobody except Ginga, whom I only 'tolerate'. [Aqua in her 'route' is much more unlikeable (her attitude towards Youichi, while explainable, is still far from nice, so I just don't like her) than in 2048.] Who cares about law? (And I do believe that law aboard space stations are clearly defined.) It's just...wrong. Creepy. From moral standpoint. Yeha, because shoting a guy is a normal thing to do and everybody 'can' do that. I agree that Daigo needed her. I don't see why she really 'needed' him, but there would be no progress in her character if not for him, to that I agree. Yup, I do know. And I stay by my words. "Stockholm syndrome is a psychological condition that causes hostages to develop sympathetic sentiments towards their captors, often sharing their opinions and acquiring romantic feelings for them as a survival strategy during captivity." This guy was a completly new thing in her life. She, as a decent human being, out of compassion and fear, helped him and tend to his wounds. Then he started to live in her quarters. She was constantly angry at him, constantly tired and was (in her thoughts, so it was genuine) yearning for some calmness. Of course she spended time with him and wanted this time to be as enjoyable as possible - as any sane person in her situation would do. If she went to Akira (of whom she was scared), she would be in problem as well, because she was sheltering him. She was confused and didn't know what to do, to the point in which she completly enclosed herself from even her 'sisters'. Probably most of the 14 yo girls, living in bubble of spacestation, with very little human interactions would be very confused, or even scared if 40+ yo loud and creepy guy imposed himself on her room and her life. And she couldn't even escape, because she had nowhere to go - it was her room, her one and only private place. Well, good for you then. I believe your feelings were in writter intentions. I feel like I spend too much time discussing this before I even finished this title. I will come back to you after I finish this whole VN. Hopefully tomorrow. Just hope this ending is as good as you're saying. But I have in mind fact, that I found true route in ever17 very lacking and pretty mediocre (best route was Yous' route), so I have reservations when people writting that 'XYZ is greatly tying everything together in the last chapter'. So, yeah. Let's get back to grinding.

Well, not to say that I gave some molestation events in my history, because it was nothing as strong as that, but I do remeber having an uncle, who was a hard worker and always 'traditionaly' tend to kiss, as a greeting, everybody in family. Including me, young kid, my brothers, and basicaly - everybody. You know, somebody with big, rough hands, strong handgrip, moist lips, reek of booze and cigarettes, etc. Somebody like this (one of the first images in google images, don't know this guy, I apologize if you're him, and you see this. ) Diago is 43 years old. And reek of booze. Guy on this picture is 45. Very close. Now a random, attractive 14 year old girl. Flatchested, young, undeveloped. Now picture them like this CG. Creepy as fuck, ain't it? Add to this his creepy, perverted attitude, and here you go - Amamiya Daigo, the Hero. To add insult to the injury, their relationship was basically That was sickening. I have absolutely no possitive thoughts about his character. So scene in spaceshuttle was...yeah, I was glad. Anybody can tell me how it ended in original, h-filled, version of the game? Also - his relationships with other women were horrible as well.

Remember the second chapter? Remember when Remember how beautiful that scene was and how heartbroken you felt when he said that? I don't. MRW: I was actually relieved when he said that.

You have the cause and effect order wrong here. Because it was dragging (maybe because I really dislike that type of 'humour', not once did I laughed in first Episode, and smiled maybe twice) I started to nitpick everything. But when it stopped being 'nothing' and started to presenting interesting plot points and ideas (from around middle of second Episode onwards) I stopped nitpicking and started enjoying (everything except for that pedo). And I must highlight - my nitpicking here was really a nitpicking. Not like in f.e. Sharin no Kuni or other horrible titles, when everything on every other step was insulting. Himawari is much, much better VN. And I really do hope that you're right and everything will do come together in the end. So, yeah, Merry Christmas everyone, time for some home-helping before going back to reading.

1) It seems so...or not. I feel like I spend more than 20 hours reading Himawari now (in reality probably 15 tops, I'm right after choice in 2048). Pacing is off, it drags. 2) Thanks for answers. Some of them were just 'because they can'. Like that porn mag. Come on, it's 2048, even now, in 2016 paper magazines, television and stationary phones are pretty much obsolete. Thankfully game got much, much better and started to get interesting. If this keeps up (and less Daigo mood killer please. I can compare him to Kazuna in Cartagra. You have a dark, solemn, melancholic tone and mood and suddenly SHABAM, creepy, perverted, loud and ufunny joke. And then GO through his mouth said to Aqua/reader that she's the moodkiller here. I rage quit at that moment. ) 3) Daigo... My, oh my. His relationship with Aqua is really close to stockholm syndrome, and what's worse Daigo is presented as booze and sweat reeking, perverted, 3 times older than Aqua man, who is throwing perverted jokes without end. He did some good things, but still -his relationship with Aqua is disgusting.

Both of you guys, please write more about next chapters you read!

I'm in second 'episode', 2048. Why there is no logic in this world? How can I care for characters and situations, when whole setting is falling apart? I admit - Aqua chapter is far, far better than moechapter. Aqua is really... human character, I like her inner monologues very much. BUT. Slight spoilers: And that's only from top of my brain, I forgot few things. Things with * might yet to be explained. I'm hope they will be. Still - it should be one hell of an explanation. And about that last complaint - I just hope that I'm supposed to dislike him. That it's intentional from GO. If not... oh well.

When will this moe route in Himawari end? I'm around time when they went to school, Aries -> rocket, Ginga -> ring. It's not very bad, it's just bad. Most of the time, I'm reading through my fingers, with sad facepalm of 'money not well spent'. Aries is like somehow cute animal. Only eats and making noises. Not much human, let alone 'interesting chracter' about her. And I'm not into pets, so yeah - no points from me Aries, sorry, not sorry. Asuka is slightly bossy choldhood friend. Bland. Boring. Nothing about her makes me wanna read more. Ginga. He's fine. He's intersting, he's (sometimes) funny. Humour here is mellow - when it works I get little smile on my face, when it not works...see start of this paragraph. Story - not much of it for now. Nothing is happening. Not at all. Absolutely. Which is not a bad thing in intself, nice SoL are sometimes good to read. And finally: Aqua. Unfortunatelly I know about her much more than I needed - I know that she's the main character, that she has the most 'screen time', whole route from her perspective and that she's the most beloved "best grill ever" by many. But... while not extreme, she's tsunderish, bossy (first interaction with protag was punching him in the guts for 'stress relieving' FFS!), unfunny and also - stupidly clumsy. And (probably) very smart. Which is contradiction in her situation. For every hanami drinking scene, which was fine and nice, probably the best depiction of drinking party I ever read in VNs, we got 'oniichan' scene, which was painfull to read, especially with that freaking choice, when we got 3 answers, but every one of them was the same incestous unfunny joke. Also - I just love when those fucking.... girls are making protag looks like incestous pedo rapists, and he (or any protag ever) can't say anything to defend himself from those false, degradating, stupid and frustrating accusations. So yeah. You could probably feel my rage in this rant. But it's not that bad, it's still far from Sharin no Kuni levels (I watched a finalle from Touka route on youtube today. Worst. Piece. Of. Shit. Ever. Written. Nothing in that VN mae any sense.). After those few hours with Himawari I would give it 6/10, but I know it will get much better and less moe. I just hope it really gets better because for know the worst thing about it is... characters. In character driven VN. Great. I also don't like art in this. Looks like generic 'moeblob art factory - product #3352'. With ocasionally crooked faces (shy Aries have crossed eyes, bravo). Originall art wasn't much better, but it was slightly better. EDIT: Did I mention that this is...boring? Like really? Also - I slowly loosing hope, because writting is not good. Scene when they were plaing deatrhmatch with toyguns - slight spoilers - protag spilled himawari seeds, Aqua tripped and protag...isntead of shooting her here and now, decided that he must run away. Because reasons. Or rather - for no reason at all. That was stupid and distracting. Little things, but enjoyment of every vn, (or movie), depends on how well it handle those little things. If they're baffling, then they're reader/watcher is disconnected from the story.

It's sad that this type 'fits' in oddball category. :<

Finished Remember11. And what an ending it was! Last two scenes were soooo creepily epic. I wasn't dissapointed, I figured up what was possible to figure up (without 100%, because I don't like grinding) by myself, and later read 'explanation theories' in the net. Some of them great, some of them shitty. I'm glad that this game ended where it ended. 9.1/10. Much, much better than Ever17. I would even say that R11 is top tier VN, alongside S;G, MLA, I/O, Kara 2, FataMorgana and Majikoi. Love it. And now, after 10 hours of R11, it's time for some moeblobing with ugly lolis - Himawari. Sunday well spent.

Fourth day. And...it wasn't that surreal. I must say that I somehow figured out HEAVY SPOILERS. REALLY. and from that point on everything really felt into it's place for me. And I add - this is the first time in vns, when I made a right suggestion about some plot twist, or plot revelations/progressions, when I felt satisfaction instead of let down at how bad that 'twist' was. What a great title. Nakazawa Takumi is probably the best VN writter I have encounter. (Uchikoshi seems to be shitty though. ;p) It's time for finish this title. I have a feeling that I wont be dissapointed at lack of ending, that everybody is talking about.

I say yes. Cause I want to say almost same thing about Sharin no Kuni. Other that this and Grisaia, obviously... Not much. Even in Kara no Shoujo 1 Deaths in VNs are very rare if you not count bad ends. And bad ends are just stupid add ons imho.

Why does it sounds like Comyu 2.0? How far from thruth am I?

Thank you so much! Although I'm suffering from horrible lack of time, and read VNs only on Sundays, I will definitelly find time for more Majikoi!

"Zig(u) Hairu!" Is painfull. At least they did not attempt to speak Latin, which be probablly terryfyingly horrible. I love the translation method of latin sentences (12:00 in video)!

No, no, creative use of words it's appreciated. If it fits. And if words like 'shitfaced' fits to the character....I'm then not sure if I want to know this character. Rest of your post made me worry...but at least now I'm prepared for it, so it will not hurt as much.

I just started to check if everything is working fine. And I must say - first few track in soundtrack are uncomparably better in old versions than jazzy, strange and wacky new ones. Definitelly will be sticking to the old soundtrack. Also - I saw a few things on twitter that makes me worry, and much less excited about this title. Screens in spoiler, but non spoilery. So...yeah. But less hype = better enjoyment if it turns out to be realy great. Also my friend says that his gut is telling him, that Himawari will turn out just like Sharin no Kuni ("classic, greatest vn ever", which in reality is just an incredible crap), but I refuse to believe him.

Which one is that confussing (from Kokoro side)? Or is it confussing only in Satoru route?

Well... nothing really. I just read all of them, slowly, but steady. If something really picks up my attention (like Himawari now, or earlier Swan Song) I will put it up the queue. So there is never something I really want badly to read that stays unread for too long.

Remember11. I'm after Kokoro route. Took me around 7-10 hours. I liked it. Lot's of greatly lean on mysteries, few nice interesting theories, no definite answers. It's good. But after that I made a 3,5h long grind thorugh all the bad endings I could get at this time. So 14, or 15. Who the hell said I NEED them? And even worse - that I need them even before I start next route? That was pointless. No new information (only nice new text, was when I was choosing other choices...but not in those 'crucial' for bad endings ones), almost every bad end was something like in very short scenes. Sigh. I have only around 3h of reading tonight, and instead of grinding I could be more than a halfway thorugh Satoru route, but no... I 'needed' bad endings, sigh.

Why not whole KiraKira? I have a little 'something', irk, that puts me off from Noble Works. Same as Da Capo. Can't explain it. Just... no. Dracu Riot - will read, but after 'our' Fuwa+Oxford Comma team will finish their patch. My Girlfriend - I saw this vn few times, but never paid any attention to it. I'll read more about it, but I'm pretty hyped, thanks for that recommendation. Edelweiss - over-the-top humour? I love it. I loved it in both Majikoi and MuvLuvExtra. But I didn't liked the humour of other Override title - Dengeki Stryker. It was never 'laughable' to me, few quick smirks, that's all.

It's 30-50, but I assume it's closer to 30 than 50, right?

nvm EDIT: I made double post here, so I edited it out, sigh. OP still valid. : d

It's actually not a joke. No, really. I'm looking for some 10-30h long charage, in english. You know, funny, simple, fairly 'good' common high school oriented common route, few choices and few routes where you have 'romance' with some girl. Something to read for 30-60 minutes a day, without high need for my attention and focus. Nothing much right..? There is a craptone of those. Or so I thought. But...I just can't find them. VNDB wasn't very helpfull (there is no 'charage' tag), all those branching routes, multiple endings, high schools and other simpe tags seems to contradict each other and my search results have 15vns tops, most of them with only partial patches, or really shitty quality (below 6.5 or something like that). I read Hoshizora no Memoria, Yume Miru Kursui (too drama heavy for my request here), Kanon, Ikinari Anata ni Koishiteiru and Period. And also Grisaia 1 and Muv Luv Extra. And Majikoi. And Katawa. And A Profile. What else? Clannad is too long and have some 'bigger story', Air the same, Da Capo series I do not want to touch for some unexplained reason... What's left in here? Edelweiss? That Shinigami-something (with silver haired loli)? Kira*Kira? Symphonic Rain? Are they fit in my request? Are they any good?

Interview translated by reddit user jis33785: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1GtQTEDpj3Fl8gkP9GQdI56VJYeDoaZrPIqm1HypWZds/edit Few details about setting, what was happening in Key when they started this, and that they are still developing routes, not even writing yet, so we should not expect this soon.