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Vorathiel

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  1. You're right basically, knowing inner thoughts of a person is easiest way to know and symphatize with this character. But consider this: Charage are usually 'put yourself in' stories. That's why we have such a bland protagonists, obviously. But if you want to have that immersion into game/vn/story, you cannot show inner thoughts of any other characters than protagonists. It's immersion breaking because protagonists does not know what other characters are thinking. Switching perspectives is a good thing and it suits story driven VNs/books/anything. It's a simple yet strong writting tool. But when it comes to charage, where immersion is really important, it's just of putting. And lazy. Why lazy? Well, when comes to 'put yourself in charage' writter must show heroines and other characters interesting by their dialogues, actions and interactions. Which is sometimes very hard to do. Going into their heads is lazy, it's like cheating. It's basically the same type of 'tool' as "protagonists is secretly reading heroines' diary and get to know what she thinks". Both are shitty, both are lazy.
  2. Well, if E17 was too much for you in that regard, be prepared to be heavily disappointed. Especialy if you're looking for a deep, coherent, massive sf plot elements, deep interesting human/humane characters and/or intersting, engaging story. Himawari have non of this. Can't wait for your opinion
  3. Finished Air. Spreadsheet: I really liked it. Summer was awesome, and I was a little dissapointed that plot threads from it was not prolongated into Air, but Air in itself was a nice, self contained story about Yukito and his whole role in that chapter was really unnecessary though. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ And I stalled 11Eyes, because I needed new stimulus. I started Aoishiro. And I like it very much. Interesting cast, with protag-lady, who has slightly complicated character, great art, fantastic music, great thechnical aspects, and intriguing amosphere and story. Above all it's all ages and yuri. I'm really hyped up. ^^
  4. So music theme it is, right? So far nominated are: - KiraKira - Deardrops - LoveKami - Brass Restoration - Quartet! ...and not much left in 'musical themes' on vndb.
  5. I know, I know, but I love to hate, so moeges are fine from time to time. ;d Music as a theme sounds good. (Well, anything not sf sounds good.) I never get to read kirakira or....erm.... Yeah, right. What else is there?
  6. Would gladly participate, cause I don't have anything for 'must read' in the near future. Just hope that nominations/theme will be interesting.
  7. It's not like Clannad drags. I just hated every single one person in the cast, and humour was vile, didn't clicked at all with me. I read route of dorm Lady (completly hollow waste of time) and half of Tomoyo route (from all the things I hate, the strict bossy archetypes are the worst). But I just came back to Air, and read second route - Kano. And I was really surprised. It had working humour, really pleasant atmosphere and even final with 'Key magic' made sense. Usually it all comes down to some 'ethereal' mumbo jumbo with 'poetic' sentences without much cohesive content. But this time, while all that magic was unexplained, characters were reasonable about this, they were confused and surprised, and text was meaningfull and understandable. This type of 'key magic' I can get into. Usuall type (Minagi route from Air, most of the Kanon routes) is just not for me.
  8. But...why? : D She even have the second worst design, right after that childhood friend ;d
  9. I was reading Steins;Gate 0 and I was so bored that I started...and finished Hanachirasu. And then, I came back and finished S;G 0. Hanahcirasu: Simple story, but with great setting, awesome, unique protagonist, really good writting and translation (Makoto is awesome!) and really emotionally intense fight scenes. Great depiction of fighting styles, moves and thoughts during battles. After finishin Hanachirasu I came back for a moment to 11eyes, just for a battle scene and I thought that I'm gonna puke, it was such a degradation of quality level in fight scenes. Back to Hanachirasu - Solemn and melancholic atmosphere throughout the entire game is an icing on the cake. I can't get more hyped for Muramasa. Hopefully I will live long enough to read it. Also - 'Joke ends' in second playthrough are absolute garbage, but didn't hit me strong enough to lower my grade for it. 9.1/10 And finally my most hyped VN ever, S;G 0. And the biggest dissapointment ever, of course. High points were really high, cast was great, Maho is now one of my favourite heroines ever. Writting was really good, and events were interesting. But. It was filled with fluff and fillers. Boring fillers. 'Straight-from-fandisc' fluffy fillers. I read it with suggested by almost everyone order. And after the Vega and Altair ending, rest of the VN was... completly non-engaging. Because I just knew that it's not 'canon', it didn't happened and it's just a simple 'what if'. So non of the (interesting in itself) events made any impact on me. After finishing this it become clear why S;G0 had structure like that, but what I felt while reading was just boredom. Also - there was a 'true ending', which presents a new plot thread...which is contained in some Drama CD, and not in any VN. Great. Overall - too much fluff, really bad structure, and bad 'true ending' really dimnishes the experience of this, quite good VN. So yeah - Not bad, but really unnecesary and skipable 'fandiscish' sequel to a perfect title. 8/10 EDIT: I agree with ChaosRaven statement as well. Cast is really..mediocre at best. I really was liking this title more than I should at the begining, but now, after Yukiko first fight scene I'm just... burned out for this title. But I will finish this, it's not nearly as bad and repulsive as first 10 hours of Clannad, to which I will never return.
  10. S;G 0 - second part of it is kinda shitty. Whatevs. But. Localisation team sucks as well. Person A, (let's call him Alfred) is calling Person B (Brian) 'senpai'. But, stupid as fuck localisation team choose not to include that at all and instead went for 'Brian'. Just name. So Alfred is speaking 'Brian', while I hear 'senpai' in my earphones. Okey, whatever, they're dumb, but I will swallow that. 'Honorifics are bad and all that crap. Nitpick. Go on. But wait, there is more. Because here comes Person C - Carl. Carl who is 'strange' in some ways. When Carl is speaking to Brian, he's using form 'Brian-san' in earphones and 'Brian' in text. But suddenly, in one occasion, Carl is calling Brian 'senpai'. Exactly like Alfred was doing all the time! And here comes great fuss amongst the characters, because that's 'something wrong' and 'weird' and plot thickens. Buuut. This time we can see 'senpai' in text. Yet whole this means nothing, because all the time we were seeing 'Brian' coming from Alfred. Not once we have seen 'senpai' appeared on screen. So characters confusion and fuss is completly nonunderstendable for somebody who is not listening to voices. Great job localisation team. You sick fucks.
  11. S;G 0... Very mild spoilers ahead. Sigh. First part of it, first half (first arc - Altair and Vega ending, etc) was really good. Not mindblowingly great, like S;G, but really, really good, with some fluff and fillers, but also really high 'high points'. But other half of the game? I feel like I'm reading not very good fandisc with 'what if' stories. So much stupid fluff, red herrings (It's going to be a drama/action! Tense music! Cryptic messages! Peaople running in panic! ... oh, it's just Faris wanting them to clean up the room), a lot of them, which kills any tension and mood in 'proper' scenes. Humour is completly dry, scenes are boring and tends to be overlly 'VNish' (like Cleaning-Sergeant Nae, FFS). I haven't finished this yet, still around 8 hours to go (two last endings + true mini end), but I must say this: S;G0 feels like completlly unnecessary sequel, with few good/great ideas, few great seqences, one really great character (Maho!), but also filled with so much boring/moe/fluffy sol, that it drags it down really heavy. Whole 'Amadeus' plot brings very little to the table of whole S;G story. If this will not turn out better in last few hours, I'm gonna give it around 8/10. Only. I'm just surprised that nobody I've seen talking about S;G0 noticed diferent writters for two 'story arcs'. I was so baffled by the change of style and quality, that I immediatelly went to vndb, and my fears were confirmed - first arc was written by main S;G writter, other, fandisc-like half is written by two noobs, with not much in their portfolio.
  12. To all of you, SCA-JI fans out here. I read Ikinari Anata ni Koishiteru. I know that common was rushed by SCA-ji to just get it done, because there were a lot of production problems. But. Common route in Ikikoi have one of the most terrible 'abusing' type of 'tsundere' characters I have ever seen. Also - a lot of totally unfunny humour. And last thing - it had on absolutely great sequence. When they were 'investigating' school at night - that shit was like straight horror and it was really intense and creepy. I loved it. Can I take any parts of that and hype(/unhype) myslef up for Subahibi, or is Ikinari completly and absolutelly uncomparable to Subahibi and vice versa?
  13. From what I heard - it's much closer to 'philisophy teached in philisophy class' than colloqiual use of that word. Anywayz - I'm not very hyped as well. Everybody is prasing that so much, even people who love VNs I loathe, that my 'red warning lamp' is blindingly glowing. [And I read Ikinari, which has a common route written by Sca-Ji, so I have some averse to this guy :x] But we'll see. Good to see it actually getting released.
  14. Ask @Dergonu , he loved Mizuha side route in G-Maou more than true ending.
  15. Hey-ho, Steins;Gate Zero. First ending, nearly 10 hours. It's stabilly going for 10/10. And Maho is surprisingly awesome. ^^
  16. I never got to like Jacopo. Always But it didn't hold me from giving Fata 9.7/10 and reaching my top 3 favourite VN, just after the whole Muv Luv series and first Kara No Shoujo2. Isn't this just lovely? <3
  17. You guys really enjoyed Serial Experimnents Laine? I watched half of it, was boring and nonsensical for me, so I dropped it. Maybe I'm too dumb, but Evangelion is one of the best things ever (if you exclude the last two episodes and shitty 'in theeatre' scenes from finishing movie).
  18. Kamige, kamige, kamige kamige. Now I'm really discouraged. Same shit was all over the web, when Himawari wa supposed to came out in eng. Yeah, Crescendo 7.8/10, Steins;Gate 7/10, Comyu 7.4/10, main three Grisaias 7.2 and high praises for Sharin no Kuni, for which he edited fan TL, while Umineko 4/10 and MuvLuv 3/10.. So yeah, his oppinion is... completly unrelevant. At least if you're the person who is reading VNs for substance and not style (prose, etc), which seems to be Moogys' thing. Anyway - I'm interested. Yuri migh be my personal 'saviour' of VNs. First Flowers was great, I heard a good stuff from my (only one reliable) source about Lesbian Nurses, so I'm looking forward to SeaBed and Shadows of Pygmalion.
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