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IIRC, there is now a choice at the beginning of the same route which sends you to the next chapter. If that one doesn't show up, then idk what's the problem.
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Unlimited is the 2nd part of the trilogy, Alternative is the third. Unlimited is part of the first game Muv-luv, whereas Alternative is its own game and is around 2x longer than the first 2 parts together. The difference in the story is a little spoiler, so I'm not going to mention that
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Steins;Gate and Clannad are arguably the only good ones. Both of them being really highly rated in both mediums (at least the After story in Clannad's case)
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Wonderful Everyday (Subarashiki Hibi) is what you're looking for.
Some of its content is rather messed up, though
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The most extreme case of tsundere from what I have read was in Fureraba. Extreme in the way that before you get to her route, she's the most hostile heroine I've ever seen (for a moege at least) and after, she's so infatuated with the MC that it was annoying to me. So if that's what you're looking for, Fureraba should be an obvious choice.
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Sharin no Kuni is pretty much G-senjou's predecessor - there are many similarities, including the ladder structure, which however works slightly differently. At the end of a chapter, instead of sidetracking to a route, you just keep going through the main story. There's both, comedy and drama, just like in G-senjou.
And Steins;Gate is another VN with ladder structure, which works just like the one in G-senjou. Also has a true ending, but you'll probably need a guide for that, lol. It does have a bunch of comedy, but it more than makes up for it later in the story with drama.
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Mortia Kenichi from Sharin no Kuni. Some people say that he was the inspiration for Grisaia's Yuuji (they do have a bunch of similarities), but I like Kenichi more, because he's the troll master.
Yuuji wouldn't be in my top 3 anyway. There's Okarin from Steins;Gate and Battler from Umineko who are just too good.
While Kenichi is my most favorite because he's simply way too cool and also makes the non-dramatic moments very fun to read, both Okarin and Battler are much better in terms of being able to sympathize with them. Umineko wouldn't be as enjoyable if the protagonist didn't let you immerse yourself into the story so easily. Umineko did use a sprite for the protagonist and the point of view wasn't exclusively locked to scenes he participated in, but Battler made me feel as if I had an ally in the story, at least one character that you care about regardless of the developments. And Steins;Gate just wouldn't be Steins;Gate without the eccentric mad scientist.
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It's possible. I think it happened on even more occasions than that, but don't quite remember, because the common route was so long and I've read it a while ago.
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1 minute ago, Zalor said:
You have Battler as your avatar right? Given what you said, what did you think about Ange and her subplot in Umineko? (Also I only finished the question arcs so far, so please avoid any details that come up during the answer arcs)
That was episode 4, right? I didn't really enjoy reading about Ange's situation. It was kinda dragging, I didn't sympathize with her a whole lot and her interactions with Maria were just annoying (because I hate Maria). They just went too deep into describing their mindsets and how they're changing their attitude towards life.
SpoilerBut given Ange's circumstances, I don't think that her escaping into her own little world was all that weird.
In Umineko's case, her situation in school wasn't something like a plot development, it just served to show the readers how she was suffering, how she was alone in the future world and why her overall attitude is so stoic and cold. So it was basically a character introduction, since she only showed up that late into the story. As I said, I couldn't really sympathize with her, as she was a completely new character, so I didn't really care about all the bullying. But if I have to make an opinion about it - it was not uninteresting like it would be in a different VN with a school setting, because it served an important role. However, the narration just went too deep into everything, so that's why I think it was dragging, because it wasn't about a character that was already a part of the story.
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21 minutes ago, JJ! said:
The route plots that I dislike the most are when really bad things happen to a heroine primarily because she met the protagonist. He takes her to a restaurant she has never heard of before and she gets serious food poisoning that damages her organs. He tells her about swimming in the secret cove and she goes there and gets a bad injury. He gives her a gift and she goes into a burning building/jumps off a balcony to try to save the gift - and it goes as poorly as would be expected. He teaches her to drive and she gets into a gruesome car accident. If she had never met the protagonist, her life wouldn't have taken the negative turns that it does in the plot. That situation is just about as far from the emotions I want to experience in my life as possible.
Where do you even find these twists? lmao
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The type of plot where a character is ostracized in school for literally any reason. 100% of the time, this is because of rumors or some fabrications. I have never come across a story where a character gets into this scenario for a remotely valid reason, but then again - I don't think this kind of story about someone who's in fact worthy of being an outcast is all that common (because such stories generally involve clearing the character's name and putting an end to all of that).
I generally dislike this story because they always use a random side character or a group of them (this group tends to be literally all the students in school who don't have a character sprite, because why would the author want to antagonize characters that are actually relevant) for the sole purpose of being an absolute annoyance to everyone else and to the reader as well.
IMO, there is nothing interesting about a story like this, regardless of the decisions the characters make. At the end, they either forget all about it, as if nothing ever happened, or change in a random way, as if becoming a new person, which never makes sense. Most of the time, the unimportant characters that caused all of it don't get any repercussions (and that's not even a bad thing, because nobody cares about these characters).
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11 hours ago, [Hun]Lepto said:
In a way, I think Michiru's bad ending is also frightening, yet decent. It shows how a person can easily fall apart if the only spiritual support in your life starts doubting himself. Though, I guess we could say though that maybe it was kinda out of character for Yuuji to try reverse his decision when he was never known to back down like that, not even when
When I said stupid and random, I meant it mostly in terms of how coherent it was with the choice that sends you there. Taken separately, Michiru's bad ending isn't actually that nonsensical. And also Yumiko's bad ending has some connection to the choice and kinda makes sense, but that ending is just not interesting at all and kinda predictable.
However, Sachi's bad ending was just a joke IMO and Makina's was a "wtf moment"
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Amane's bad ending was actually interesting. All the other bad ends were kinda stupid or random, but for Amane, I recommend checking it out
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I am someone who hasn't even read Shizune's route, because it was kinda too boring for me and I stopped soon after entering the route.
The other routes were pretty fine though. I read Hanako's route first because it intrigued me to see what's up with that shy girl stuff, but in the end Lilly became my favorite heroine. In my opinion, Rin's route was the most interesting.
I've read this a while ago, maybe as my 3rd or 4th VN. If I was to read it later, like now for example, I probably wouldn't be able to enjoy it as much, as the drama is too tame in comparison to most of what I've read and comedy is not its strong point. But it was a solid experience nonetheless.
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Subarashiki Hibi and Muv-luv can hook the reader pretty well, but it kinda depends on you.
To get to the actual drama/intense story in Muv-luv, you need to wait till you get to the 3rd game Muv-Luv Alternative and the first 2 probably aren't what you're looking for, but I would say it's worth it.
As for Subahibi, your enjoyment will be based on how well you can tolerate it. The story is very interesting, but I'd probably describe it as "hard to read"
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White Album 2 Closing chapter has someone like that (I dont like him very much), but idk how the translation for that is doing. It's probably not 100% done.
Steins;gate 0, but you have to read Steins;gate first (actually, just read Steins;gate, regardless of what you want
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Symphonic rain is a little bit of a stretch, because the protagonist doesn't really have a reason to be depressed (and he isn't really), but he's just very melancholic by default. The whole VN has an overall very melancholic atmosphere, maybe you'll like that
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I want to eat your pancreas. Before I watched it, I thought it was going to be a very sad tearjerker. I've read a bunch of reviews of this movie on MAL and most of them suggested that it's a badly executed story with shallow characters and it completely fails as a tearjerker. So after watching it, I absolutely didn't get the impression that this movie even wanted to be a tearjerker. 90% of it had a rather happy atmosphere. I think that this movie was very much misunderstood by the audience.
Shinchou Yuusha. After reading the summary, I expected this to be just another random comedy isekai with some fanservice and that it would get boring quickly. An overpowered protagonist who only has 1 personality trait and nothing else to his character. Well, I was proven wrong really quickly. This anime was actually genius and the comedy never got boring. The way it works is rather simple. This overpowered hero is not actually the protagonist (this is made obvious by never hearing any of his internal thoughts). Instead, the protagonist was this goddess who summoned him and her interactions with the hero and her overreactions are totally golden. Her voice actor did a seriously good job. I feel a little bad for this show, because most of the audience probably couldn't realize that and therefore couldn't enjoy the show because of some biased opinions towards random isekai comedies.
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Fureraba and If my heart had wings are what you're looking for
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I like your comments about the first episode. I also thought it was really brilliant, although there was 1 or 2 later episodes I liked more. But the first one definitely had the best atmosphere of a horror.
If you've read 2 episodes and are still not clear about Battler having a personality, then that's kinda sad, tbh. I think his character started being "all over the place" since episode 2. Also the fact that he has voice acting (if you have the patch) and a sprite is enough to indicate that he is not that kind of a protagonist. On top of that, the narration and point of view is sometimes replaced by a third person, so it might even make you feel like you are your own character in there who's thinking about what's going on like everyone else.
If you find what Beatrice does irritating (and the other magical elements), then I guess it's kinda unfortunate, but I hope it doesn't ruin the experience for you somehow. But one thing is for sure - Umineko has enough mysteries to keep your logical self entertained.
What I'm pretty surprised about is your overly good impression of Maria. She was the character that I absolutely couldn't stand in any scene where she appeared. It's not very common for me to hate a character as much as Maria.
As for your theories, they are definitely nothing to scoff at, given that you've only been through 2 episodes.
What do you think of the epitaph? It's probably the most absurd riddle in the game (in terms of figuring it out).
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Symphonic rain should work too. It's got a nice atmosphere
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So I ended up binging through the 2nd half of Higurashi Watanagashi today.
The words that best describe my impressions are probably "I wasn't disappointed".
SpoilerI've learnt not to let down my guard from reading Umineko, so when things started becoming a little too simple and straightforward and later the ending was turning to a more positive direction, I was slightly dubious. But the twists at the very end didn't fail to make me smile at how everything suddenly turned into an even bigger puzzle
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4 hours ago, Ryleona said:
Playing Higurashi right now, chilling in chapter 2. Very spooky.
What a coincidence! I am currently reading through Watanagashi as well.
So far, the first episode was creepier, though
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I found this by pure chance, it's kinda hilarious.
The fact that this thing has been on youtube since 2005 is incredible. Might be the oldest video on YT I've ever seen.
Looking for a heroine like Usami Haru from G-senjou no Maou
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The only character that seemed similar to Usami to me, was Minakami Yuki from Subahibi (one of the protagonists). She had same-ish personality and even the same voice actor.