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Did you have to go about basically saying "fuck you and what I assume is your laziness"? It's clear the dude just wants to read it in any form since translation progress has gotten to the point where like a pc would say "too long to estimate" on the download estimate. Laziness? for what, not learning an entire language? How is reading it with machine translation a lack of respect?(If anything, it's showing his respect to the series by suffering through MTL because he wants more.) It isn't like he is going to release a MTL patch or something. And no, I am not buddy buddy with him, though I do know that this little outburst of yours was pretty childish and just unwarranted in general.

Do you know what Majikoi is? Comedy Do you know what is the WORST thing to machine translate? Comedy

Guys, don't take this idiots serious. You know what don't ever take a translator serious or someone who knows to claim Japanese. I've been friends with a lot of people who can speak Japanese and even make a living of it, and yet they claim MTL is bad, blahblah. but it's all BS. Most people think I know a bit of Japanese and let me tell you, this will be my first time I ever confess this. I actually don't at all. I use MTL for everything and speak with a lot of those so called friends about VNs I've read and they respect my opinion about it and I can talk about most details and they haven't showed any doubt that I could actually read it. What an absolute morons. I even tl doujins and get praised for it. LUL can you imagine it. It only reads so well because most of my projects has an editor.

Reading MTL'd VNs is to respecting them as would reading a book with each page smeared in your own feces, blocking out half the words, be to reading a book. You're free to do that, of course, but please don't do it in public. It smells.

I disagree with it having nothing to do it, considering I was sticking up for OP in this case the entire time. Honestly, you need to have a little chat with your resident "purposefully abrasive"(found that gem on the neko forums when one user in this thread was called out for his behavior there) users who try to shit on someone else reading something the way they intend to do so. I said many times "let people enjoy things how they want" though somehow it devolved into what it became. Also, see Zakamutt's comment, you might want to hide it considering he's blatantly calling the OP an imbecile. Either way, it's clear that there is always the bad apples that come along to sour things. Now, I won't be commenting further on this thread. (I know I'm not 100% innocent but at least I stuck up for OP in this case and didn't try to be an outright ass about it. My answer to the main topic? Probably shouldn't read in MTL but if you want to try who am I to stop OP from doing so?)

ive literally read every majikoi vn with a machine translator. first one wasnt done and the original tl team just disappeared so i finished with a machine tl. same with the second one. tl took forever for the A series so i read those with a machine tl. i got the jokes, i got the drama so dont listen to the "elites" as its acceptable with a machine tl.

OTOH, MTLs can spew some really hilarious lines - so maybe different kind of comedy will be born this way

Wow, what a wonderful circlejerk this turned out to be. I think you guys spent so much fuel you won't be able to read eroge for the next two weeks. But yeah, reading comedy VNs though an MTL sounds kind of miserable...

It's probably both of you want the last word, and one of you probably the wiser (looking at you) should stop replying. Hopefully MCDerp takes the hint. Worse case an moderator need to sort you guys out with the old fashion time out at the staircase w. it seems McDerp didn't.. oh well

What else did you expect? People to sympathize with your laziness and lack of respect for the original text by forcibly butchering it through Google Translate? Get real.

MTL is a horrible idea in general and for comedy its even worse. None of the jokes will make sense since everything is gonna be translated extremely literally with no care for context whatsoever.

According to MG it will be released 2019.04.18. Adult version in MG store, and all-ages version on Steam. Some people on r/vn say that there will be adult patch for steam version, but I couldn't find info about it on MG site. I'm going with all ages version probably.

Thanks <3 I'll give it a go once i finish up root double

I agree. You only need to look at the CGs and fap to the chupa chupa SFX ^^

EDIT: Let's keep things on topic now. If the derailing continues, the thread willl be locked permanently. Stay civil and respect each other's opinions, please.

I think you guys have both different options and that is okay, you don't have to fight over it. I might not like MTL, but if someone wants to, let them do so. If they enjoy it's all fine. Maybe they even get the intention to learn Japanese as they want to understand more and more while reading.

Just want to say that this thread remind me of this: And also I find that this love story at this thread is far better compared to Twilight XDD. PS - Honestly there's nothing to talk about here now that Stormwolf already decided it, and if he can't understand MTL then it's his consequence here so there's no need to either defend or attack it anymore.

A fair point, except that MTL is not the only way to experience it in some fashion. No, that’d be saying that MTL’d majikoi isn’t even a VN. A better equivalent would be saying that Windows Millenium Edition isn’t Windows 7 because it is inferior. Would be more dedication and respect to learn Japanese to experience it properly and then buy a Japanese version, no? But you didn’t, you experienced a boneless approximation of it. Your thought processes are already far more than simple enough, it’s fine as is.

How is butchering something and calling the mangled carcass the original a lack of respect lmao it’s basically the same thing seriously, idk why everyone’s so up in arms about this shit, my crayon replica of the mona lisa is pretty much the original, in fact, it’s respect that i would try to replicate it

A fair point, but it is impossible to get the meaning of things with MTL, so therefore MTL is not enough

For me, it's the fact that 90% of those stories are impossible to imagine due to the protagonists either being dumber than a rock or backing themselves into a corner for no reason. "Oh my god, the gym teacher has a picture of my panties/me and my bf holding hands! Better agree to become his sex slave till graduation or he'll spill the beans."

So, I'm currently also poaching in otome territory and finished Hakuouki - Kyoto Winds, the first part of the saga with the second part Edo Blossoms to follow. While Ozmafia left we with somewhat mixed feelings due to a wonky plot, this was overall a vastly better experience. I think this is also the first VN that I've read that could be called historic fiction, following a group of Shinsengumi samurai through the fall of the shogunate during the second half of the 19th century. I liked the two anime seasons and therefore always wanted to read the visual novels too. The first part does focus on the events in Kyoto and the conflict with the Satsuma domain. Surprisingly, despite being an otome and playing a female protagonist, this didn't feel 'girly' at all. Although the characters are certainly a bit romanticized, the whole atmosphere and setting was serious and mature. Although the VN has many hero routes and choices, it's still more of a plot focused kinetic story. The chapters focus on certain historic events involving the Shinsengumi and the choices mostly decide which characters to follow. The romance was at least in this part very light - there was not even a kissing scene. It's more bromance than romance. The protagonist was also so passive that she often appeared more like an independent observer instead of a fully involved character. The VN is clearly more about the story and the interaction of its characters and less about the interaction with the protagonist. I think there was even a choice to switch off romance at the start, but I didn't use it since I wasn't sure what I'd miss. Ironically, this often felt more like a well written chuunige due to its focus on cool guys and sword fighting action. You won't find your typical idiot friend here. The characters were a real blast, not only the Shinsengumi themselves, but also their enemies and the Choshu clan in particular. I think only Fate and Dies Irae put so much attention into their male characters. Although this is a historic VN, it also has some fantasy elements. There are furies - vampire-like individuals with special powers (that's not even a spoiler since it's already shown in the prologue) - and the Choshu also aren't exactly normal. Overall, my favorite character was Hijikata, the commander of the Shinsengumi whose route I played first. Then I played the route of the Choshu leader Kazama and Saito's afterwards. I thought about playing Harada's route as well, but with each route there's less new stuff and only the endings are a bit different, so I passed on it. Amagiri was also pretty cool despite being just a side character. Though those were only my favorites, since I liked most characters. The production values of the VN are very high. Great art even with animated mouths, good music, top voice actors and lots of drawn and voiced characters in general. It's hard to believe that this VN is already more than 10 years old. Overall, I'd rate this part an 8/10. I'd even given it a higher rating if the protagonist would have been better developed and more pro-active, but it was also not a big hassle, since she was more passive and not annoying. Looking forward to the second part.

RPG: Ikusa Megami Zero, Ikusa Megami Verita Strategy: Venus Blood Hypno, Venus Blood Lagoon

It's tagged as "Nakige" with 3.0 at VNDB, so maybe... I expected it to release later in the year. Now, I want release dates for Farther than the blue sky and Maggot Baits.

As an aspiring developer, what types of VNs do you think best appeal to Western fans? Are there specific elements or focuses that might increase appeal? What role do you think marketing has in the success of a title? Should new developers like yourself invest resources in marketing, publicity, and community engagement, or should they leave that to publishers and sales platforms and focus on making games?

Try (re)installing .NET framework and/or Visual C++