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Amane Switch


Kawasumi

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I have completed my first vn in Japanese! So proud and shit.

i basically finished this because it hooked me really hard from the beginning. So this is basically some impression from right after I have read it and is still in its "afterglow" this also gives some not very objective opinions.

Although, the art and music is at best, mediocre if you compare it to professional VNs that is, its up there with katawa shoujo and better OEVNs quality wise.

But its not that much about that, its all about the story and oh boy does this have a story for you.

a disclaimer, I love sad stories, I love miserable people like in real life, im drawn to them and this vn gives you a whole cast of miserable and broken beyond repair people that is all tied into the story, while the heroines are tied by the protagonist, some of the others that are playing an important role as well also ties into the whole thing and it gives this really nice net of social relations that is this games solid base for drama and its main core strength.

I went into this thinking that Amane, the main heroine and the main plot point would go full yandere. This was not what I got. I got a mentally ill heroine that the writer does such a great job of making you sympathize with even though she's not really nice, in fact, nobody is nice in this vn, everybody is consumed by their own anger and they basically take it out on people that didnt deserve this, "why did I deserve this?" actually sums the whole vn and its most likely what you'll think all the way through when you're reading it.

In terms of reading difficulty, its not hard, I could make out the sentences while maintaining a decent reading speed with jparser and you should too, there are some minor references to stuff like shake spear and a lot of stuff about rain, but its not written cryptically at all.

Another bad and good point at the same time is the h scenes, trust me, when you meet a mentally unstable heroine like this, its natural for some to initiates sex the way that she does. It would be spoilers to talk about how she do it, but many people would call them oddly placed, which is true for some of them. Also probs to the writer for writing actual h scenes that has something to do with the plot and has good writing compared to most h scenes (nope, you wont find any "my hips are moving on their own" here, a lot of analogies for rain though :^ ) )

Im gonna leave one here that got me the most in the spoilers

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Amane and the protagonist had a big fight and she visit his home late at night, when he answers she overrumbles him and tries to have sex with him, at this point, everything is gone to shit and the protagonist just doesnt know how to deal with it all so with nothing to take his anger about the whole situation out on, he grabs amane by the throat and fucks her while strangulating her. At this point she looks at him smiles and begins to talk about her future with him, she begins to describe what kinda kids she wants and what she wanna name then. It was one of the saddest moments I have seen, we see into her very core where she just want to be happy and have a family and you just know that it would never happen.

Read if you:

Like HEAVY drama

want some heavy subjects about mental illness

you really want the waterworks going

Dont read if you:

cant take stuff like bullying, abuse and self harm.

overly dramatic heroines

irregular behavior

 

I might translate this when my japanese skills are improved, I feel like I owe it to this VN.

until next time, I love you Amane, I just wanted you to be happy.

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Contratz on losing your untranslated VN virginity! :sachi:

This does sound interesting. I would so read it if you translated it. So you know... Do it! :holo: Give in to the dark side of the force! :holo:

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1 hour ago, Deep Blue said:

well yandere heroines are not my thing but...utsuge, psychological problems and voiced =must play xD

shes by any means not what you expect a yandere to be so dont worry about that, like I wrote, I thought I got a yandere, but I actually just got a severely mentally ill heroine instead :P

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you're actually serious? To call this game a rape justification game would be the same as calling requiem for a dream a film about drug gratification 

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You're comparing rape with a weak excuse (and there's no excusing rape mind you) to artistic portrayal of social issues. The description you put under that spoiler in the OP should be enough to convince anyone with common sense that there is no real value to be found here.

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32 minutes ago, Funnerific said:

You're comparing rape with a weak excuse (and there's no excusing rape mind you) to artistic portrayal of social issues. The description you put under that spoiler in the OP should be enough to convince anyone with common sense that there is no real value to be found here.

not at all lol, I tried to leave out all the details on the spoilers but because you fucking insist to tell me that this vn that I really like is bad I guess I have to go into details.

No, there is no excuse for rape but he's actually the one being raped in the scene at the start, he gets fed up with it and in a fit of rage turns on her, pulls her down because she basically drove him to that point. Thats what makes this scene so sad, shes clearly maniac depressive and if you actually knew people with maniac depression which I guess you dont since you leave ignorant comments, then when in their maniac phases are gonna be extremely unreliable and basically looses every sense of right and wrong and cant remember a thing once they switch back, if it goes untreated mind you.

Amane's maniac phase goes away once this happens and he stops exactly the same moment she does, they both know what they did was horrible and but he has this strong sense of wanting to help her that he cant leave her.

but I hope you're not suggesting that men cant be raped?

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I admit I don't know people with maniac depression, but I still have a hard time seeing that as more than an excuse for an H-scene. Let's assume it's actually well done, what about the rest? There's plenty of H and multiple heroines, I seriously doubt you could prove there's no gratuitous rape in a game like this.

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8 minutes ago, Funnerific said:

I admit I don't know people with maniac depression, but I still have a hard time seeing that as more than an excuse for an H-scene. Let's assume it's actually well done, what about the rest? There's plenty of H and multiple heroines, I seriously doubt you could prove there's no gratuitous rape in a game like this.

Well ill give you that there is scenes where it has been drawn in such a way that its clearly meant to be viewed as something you can get off too, no doubt about it, the guy that enforces it however is a fucking scumbag and I felt sick the whole way through, its fucking horrible and the vn does a good job of portraying that.

The protag however is actually always apart from that scene asking for consent before (again, amane was the one initiating it), which is better than most vn protagonists lol.

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3 hours ago, Funnerific said:

 The description you put under that spoiler in the OP should is enough to convince anyone with common sense me that a work written by an author sleazy enough to include rapish situations misrepresenting their gravity as applied to RL offers no real value to be found.

FTFY. It's not like I don't get where you are coming from, but you don't have to vent your indignation onto a post like this.

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30 minutes ago, Chronopolis said:

FTFY. It's not like I don't get where you are coming from, but you don't have to vent your indignation onto a post like this.

You put it better than I ever could.

I have to vent my indignation somewhere since it appears, at least on the surface, that no one is bothered by the same things as me. :amane:

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25 minutes ago, Funnerific said:

You put it better than I ever could.

I have to vent my indignation somewhere since it appears, at least on the surface, that no one is bothered by the same things as me. :amane:

I dont think you come across stuff that appropriates rape culture more than eroge tbh, the funny thing is that it does it most in the most cutesy stuff lol.

Lets take the infamous chris scene in majikoi, because I think its the most forward one. The difference between this and that scene I described above ( I recoqnize that it was written rather loosely because i didnt want to give too much away, so that it can easily give some misinformation about the whole situation beforehand, if thats the case, then I apologize) is that in majikoi, yamato gets "rewarded" by taking chris by force, I know that shes okay with it afterwards but the way its written irks me like. Mainly because it really puts an impression that you can win people over by forcing them, which is pretty bad lol.

Amane switch never pretend rape to be rewarded or rape to be a good thing in the slightest, I can understand if you feel like using rape to get an emotional response out of the reader is bad, I really enjoy it though, because it evokes the emotional response from me that makes me hate the person that does this and highly makes me sympathize with the victims even more.

Heck, you even see the main abuser get caught by the police in the story. 

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1 hour ago, Funnerific said:

You put it better than I ever could.

I have to vent my indignation somewhere since it appears, at least on the surface, that no one is bothered by the same things as me. :amane:

Hmm, that's a tough one...

The way I see it, is that a work like this is here to "provide a story/experience and a emotional roller-coaster" and to "provide ero". To those ends, I think the author can do whatever they want. As long as it doesn't feel like they are trying to declare things in general, I can just roll with it in story, even if I'm like "Dude, what the heck...".

There's Japanese works that are pretty steeped in this. I mean there are just straight up porn videos where it's just the premise and sex. Sometimes I see the messages you could get from them and am I like "I hope there's no one who really believes this..." But that really just becomes whether people can keep reality and fiction separate. If you want to enjoy any type of 'fantasy' (fulfillment or thrill-seeking) story, you've got to be able to draw the line.

I'm going to assume they simplify/represent incorrectly RL because they wanted to include both the ero things and the dramatic/stimulating or fetish things, and not because they actually think that. Different people are going to be more or less comfortable with just seeing the idea, and they're also going to differ on how much they think it appearing matters.

Fuwa's a VN forum, so people are used to being exposed to and tolerating fetishes/fantasies in one form or another. (having girls in convenient heroine positions is a fantasization, rape, while a lot more squicky and potentially horrifying, is also just another). I'm sure if you brought this up the average internet community you'd find most people would take offense as you do.

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18 minutes ago, Kawasumi said:

Lets take the infamous chris scene in majikoi, because I think its the most forward one. The difference between this and that scene I described above ( I recoqnize that it was written rather loosely because i didnt want to give too much away, so that it can easily give some misinformation about the whole situation beforehand, if thats the case, then I apologize) is that in majikoi, yamato gets "rewarded" by taking chris by force, I know that shes okay with it afterwards but the way its written irks me like. Mainly because it really puts an impression that you can win people over by forcing them, which is pretty bad lol.

I've seen the scene, didn't know what to think of it at the time but the thread about it that popped up later and spanned six pages helped me form an opinion on the matter (that it's wrong, obviously). I wasn't very conscious of eroge vices back then.

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54 minutes ago, Kawasumi said:

Amane switch never pretend rape to be rewarded or rape to be a good thing in the slightest, I can understand if you feel like using rape to get an emotional response out of the reader is bad, I really enjoy it though, because it evokes the emotional response from me that makes me hate the person that does this and highly makes me sympathize with the victims even more.

That's just it. I'd only welcome such scenes normally, but if there's something else in the game that really doesn't sit well with me (such as those rape scenes intended as fap material), I start treating the whole work as pretentious (or just plain awful).

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1 minute ago, Funnerific said:

That's just it. I'd only welcome such scenes normally, but if there's something else in the game that really doesn't sit well with me, hopelessly so, I start treating the whole work as pretentious (or just plain awful).

I know that feel lol.

"XX just started as a new transfer student in" NOPE

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this has been translated and released on consoles this month for anyone curious (with new voiceovers too). I searched for reviews for it and came upon this one :).

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